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silentdecay

silentdecay

Buffalo, NY
November 2002

JUN 27, 2007 09:54 PM

Thanks for keeping us up to date with this article, unfortunately, my initial reaction is that this was lame. I havent seen "Sicko" and so I cant critique it, and apparently there is no interest in this article.

Secondly, it would appear that PETA had a brainstorm session and saw an opportunity to USE this as a chance to gain some kind of attention for "the cause". - once again alienating individuals and further polarizing the public.

My favorite comment = from Calamity: "Hahahaha. Oh man. Nothing like activists out-causing each other" - seriously, boring.

hellboy7

hellboy7

Austin, TX
July 2004

JUN 27, 2007 09:58 PM

Ok, let me start this off by saying, every time you process a cow, baby Jesus cries. tongue

I admire PETA's philisophical stance on the issue for the ethical treatment of animals. I deplore their tactics. And yes, this was a blantant coattail on the large caboose of Mike Moore's movie. But, she has a point. Mike has a weight problem, whether it be by compulsion (addiction to food), medical (thyroid condition), or just plain carelessness for his well being. Either way, I wanna see Mike around for years to come cause he makes me laugh and think.

As for all the bantering and posturing about how food tastes (with or without meat involved) and whose evolved enough to make a choice to eat meat or not, its all moot. It all comes down to choice. Do you enjoy what you eat? If so, follow your bliss. The only thing I ask anyone to do is be aware of what you eat, how it was prepped or processed or produced. As a nation of consumers, not Americans, consumers, we have the power to vote with out wallets. Without being trendy, without being fake, spend some time shopping around for what you eat. If you eat meat, try to purchase the local free range meats. If you are a veg, be sure to support your local open markets. And for everyone, eat seasonally.

I won't deny I enjoy some guilty food pleasures on rare occasions, but I try to balance my eating habits with wise choices for myself and my family. Ya, I eat meat on occasion, but I kill my own animals when I hunt, I clean and dispose of the parts I won't eat by finding use for the parts (my dog enjoys those parts more than I do). I have boxes of vegitarian dishes that kick the butt of some meat dishes. But, damn bacon, eggs and blueberry pancakes tastes good on a sunday morning while camping (local butcher who purchases free range pigs grown in the county).

FYI, reducing my caloric intake of fat, of excessive meat consumption helped me lose weight. The side effect was I learned a lot about internaltional dishes and cuisines which use more veggies and only use meats for flavor and the sporadic holiday. It's all about moderation.

Just my two pennies.....

Twelve

Twelve

Bay City, MI
April 2007

JUN 27, 2007 10:24 PM

Says the woman who uses animal based insulin.

ckdexterhaven

ckdexterhaven

USA
December 2005

JUN 27, 2007 10:41 PM

cockzombie said:
tofu is nasty. that is all.


As a former vegetarian, I wholeheartedly agree with this. Nasty.

dingoes8

dingoes8

Milwaukee, WI
March 2004

JUN 27, 2007 10:46 PM

AmalgamSwitch said:

JuniorBarnes said:

Mach1n3_Kain said:
And that Veg Pledge? As if vegan diet is healthy.



It IS healthy. Read before you speak, please.



It is not healthy at all, unless you enjoy spending all of your free time researching nutritional supplements to fill the voids in your diet. Also the raging diarrhea. There is such thing as too much fiber. Each a couple of bowls of All-Bran before a long road trip, and then come back and try to disagree with me.



I'd take too much fiber over too much grease-soaked beef any day of the week.

The real queston is, why isn't anyone else researching what they put into their bodies? Is a few hours' research really a waste of time if it could add years to your life?

smock_b

smock_b

Monroe, MI
April 2007

JUN 27, 2007 11:49 PM

Cassiel said:
oh shut up PETA and gtfo my planet.



PETA just doesn't know when to shut the f*** up... I mean come on... Leave the poor fat bastard...err.... I mean... man alone.



PETA: People Eating Tasty Animals

Flawedhero

Flawedhero

Suwanee, GA
October 2006

JUN 28, 2007 12:22 AM

cockzombie said:
tofu is nasty. that is all.



Tofu, ehh. I'm 50/50 on that one. It can be done well and be decent but often is not worth the energy used to chew it.

There are many things that are vegetarian-friendly that are really good. Don't think this means I am vegetarian, I prefer to keep a balanced diet of all things from meats to fruits to psuedo-foods every now and then, but when I make many meals such as tacos I throw in some taco flavored TVPTVP so that I get a little more balance out of it than just some meat in a thin bread.

Anyways, back on topic. PETA has some strong opinions, and I think the intentions started int he right place, but I think this whole machine has evolved into a bunch of radical kooks at the head while doing more brainwashing than informing. I'll pull out my PETA links later but I'm feeling too lazy to click 4 more buttons right now wink

Flawedhero

Flawedhero

Suwanee, GA
October 2006

JUN 28, 2007 12:26 AM

thefreak said:

Shalome said:

humanfire said:
I urge peta to try a great steak or taco and tell it's not good. biggrin


It's not good. I dislike it. I dislike the taste, the texture, the greasy aftertaste, and the way it makes me feel an hour after eating. I've been a vegetarian for about 17 years now (with a few times of going back and trying meat again). Meat doesn't even look or smell like food to me anymore.

I'm not a member of PETA and occasionally think they're jackasses, but telling a vegetarian that they'd like meat if they would just eat it is just really fucking ignorant. smile


See, I look @it as an analogy:

PETA : vegetarianism :: Fundamentalist Christians : Lovin' the Jesus

-TM



I love how someone always to bring "Jesus" into any discussion.

Props for you are both clever and original.

thefreak

thefreak

NEWSWIRE

Gardner, MA

JUN 28, 2007 12:35 AM

thefreak said:
See, I look @it as an analogy:

PETA : vegetarianism :: Fundamentalist Christians : Lovin' the Jesus


Flawedhero said:
I love how someone always to bring "Jesus" into any discussion.

Props for you are both clever and original.


Wow, I am speechless. For one, you obviously didn't do very well in the analogies section of your SATs. What I was trying to get @was that, IMO, PETA does for vegetarianism what Fundamentalist Christians do for religion...fuck it up and give the rest of their ilk a bad name.

Second, when you're going to make a sarcastic little personal attack, why don't you check your grammar first.

I love how someone always to bring "Jesus" into any discussion.


Despite your grade-school typing skills, you get a Gold Star next to your name on the Good Deeds board for helping me laugh my ass off. Go you!

-TM

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

JUN 28, 2007 12:40 AM

d20 said:

Gerry_D said:

Shalome said:
Also, I would never tell anyone they needed to be a vegetarian, but I do make vegetarian dishes for my friends and encourage them to try new things (and usually wind up sharing recipes for vegetarian versions of things). Some of them have even started adding vegetarian dishes to their regular diets. smile



I gotta say - I can't recall the last time I had a bad veggie dish.



seriously (except natto... euaghhjght).



Cafe Gratitude on 20th and Harrison. Gritty, barely edible yet bland salad in the shape of a small square of lasagna. $12.

I mean, I like some veggie stuff here and there too, but don't pretend that some of it isn't nasty. It is. I assure you.

BlastProcessing

BlastProcessing

USA
OLD SKOOL

JUN 28, 2007 12:58 AM

Shalome said:

humanfire said:
I urge peta to try a great steak or taco and tell it's not good. biggrin



It's not good. I dislike it. I dislike the taste, the texture, the greasy aftertaste, and the way it makes me feel an hour after eating. I've been a vegetarian for about 17 years now (with a few times of going back and trying meat again). Meat doesn't even look or smell like food to me anymore.

I'm not a member of PETA and occasionally think they're jackasses, but telling a vegetarian that they'd like meat if they would just eat it is just really fucking ignorant. smile



After 17 years, wouldn't meat pretty much be poisonous to you anyway?

Rafi

Rafi

Santa Monica, CA
January 2003

JUN 28, 2007 01:20 AM

smock_b said:

PETA: People Eating Tasty Animals



You could work at it a hundred years and not make more banal a post.

erleichda

erleichda

Germany
May 2003

JUN 28, 2007 05:18 AM

cockzombie said:
tofu is nasty. that is all.



A good friend of mine is half blind from multiple sclerosis. He says tofu makes him see. Go tofu!

Nokturn

Nokturn

United Kingdom
April 2006

JUN 28, 2007 07:25 AM

Pandapeep said:

Nokturn said:

RationalDementia said:
PETA= People Eating Tasty Animals
I am a whole heartedly convicted supporter an anti-cruelty laws and reform, but I eat meat because I am meant to. Evolution has granted me the tools to do so, and the means to use those tools.



So how come you're an omnivore then?
Evolution has given you the tools to choose.



Cause meat is tasty. I choose to eat steak, just like you choose to eat all veggies. Honestly I have only three issuses with veggitarians 1) When they try and force their beliefs on me 2) Guilt me out of eating meat (news flash, I don't care that KFC stores chickens in small cages, I just really, really don't) and 3) Eat faux meat products. You want bacon, eat bacon. You chose veggies so you don't get a pork subsitue, nope. Fry up some peppers or something. Ya hippie.

PS. The hippie line is a joke. And this is not addressed to you Nokturn. It's just me griping.


This isn't addressed at you either, but I find often people get paranoid about what vegetarians are trying to tell them.
Telling a non-veggie that a sausage is a dead pig is neither inaccurate or insensitive.
It's a dead pig. It's a fact. That is all.
Politely refusing a hamburger when offered is not a 'I'm greater than thou' statement, it's just a choice.
We're all omnivores and we all have a choice to eat meat or not.
And we're all intellegent too so we can be mindful of what it is we're eating without either ramming ethics down somebody's throat or shying away when somebody points out where meat comes from.

I feel the same about militant vegans- I'm not a vegan, I drink milk and I don't see a problem with it as long as I'm mindful of where it comes from.
But of course, like vegetarians, most vegans aren't militant.
And I've never really got fake meat... it tastes as good as meat but there are millions of veggie dishes which don't need to pretend.

Bellica

Bellica

Mexico
February 2007

JUN 29, 2007 01:21 AM

A pretty good way to attract some attention to yourself while the movie is being watched... But I'm still eating animals and not being overweight so...

Sexdwarf

Sexdwarf

Hermosa Beach, CA
February 2003

JUL 02, 2007 09:15 PM

I love my "tortured dead animal parts," they tastes to scrum-diddly-umptious.

Cymagen

cymagen

I'm lost
March 2006

JUL 03, 2007 01:01 PM

Michael Moore has urged more reform and change in the public mind than PETA ever will. Fuck them for saying this.

orbro

orbro

New York, NY
July 2004

JUL 06, 2007 01:34 AM

I always like to point out that meat is also a global warming issue. Al Gore is a hypocrite here as well.

midnightclimax

midnightclimax

Brooklyn, NY
May 2005

AUG 05, 2007 07:23 PM

Shalome said:

Mach1n3_Kain said:
As if vegan diet is healthy.



Done correctly, it is healthy. Most people don't have the patience or intelligence to make informed decisions about eating a truly balanced diet and replacing animal proteins and amino acids with the vegetable sources, so a lot of vegans and vegetarians end up unhealthy because they don't inform themselves of what the human body actually needs. Learning to be a healthy vegan or vegetarian is not easy.



I figgered I warn't smart enough to be a healthy vegetarian. At least I know I'm not alone.

midnightclimax

midnightclimax

Brooklyn, NY
May 2005

AUG 05, 2007 07:28 PM

midnightclimax

midnightclimax

Brooklyn, NY
May 2005

AUG 05, 2007 07:40 PM



PRockGirlScout

PRockGirlScout

Portland, OR
October 2005

AUG 05, 2007 10:54 PM

krncookies said:
tofu is nasty. that is all.



False. I'm a bacon lover and we're having tofu tonight and it's amazing. Gotta have it prepared well though. It takes on the flavor of whatever you cook it in, so if it tastes yucko, you have only the cook to blame.

On topic, PETA goes overboard a lot (most obvious statement ever, I know). And this is no exception, but the connection between eating animal products and cancer and other serious health maladies is undeniable. See Diet for a New America.

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