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evanharos

evanharos

I'm lost
May 2007

JUN 18, 2007 09:57 AM



Waking up and knocking back a bowl or two of Frosted Flakes for a sugar rush before school is an American kid tradition. The culinary ritual is reinforced during Saturday morning cartoons as all sorts of wonderful creatures frolic on the TV screen: talking tigers, colorful toucans, and tiny elfs whose onomatopoetic names evoke the wondrous sounds of milk-soaked, crisped rice. Now pressure from consumer groups has moved breakfast food giant Kellogg to be more responsible in pushing its product to kids.

Kellogg Co., facing a lawsuit and pressure from consumer groups, on Thursday said it will only market food to children that meets certain nutritional standards.

The largest U.S. cereal maker said that products advertised on media for which half the audience is under 12 years old will have 200 or less calories per serving, less than 2 grams of saturated fat and no more than 230 milligrams of sodium and 12 grams of sugar.


While today Kellogg may sell cereals whose health benefits to kids are debatable, the corn flake economic powerhouse was actually founded on principles of sound nutrition and healthy living. Dr John H Kellogg was a Seventh Day Adventist who ran a health clinic in 1876 Battle Creek, Michigan ( a 19th century forerunner to today’s chic health spa).

he attracted a formidable array of visitors to his facility, renamed the Battle Creek Sanitarium or "San." These included auto baron Henry Ford, retailers J.C. Penney and S.S.Kresge, actress Sarah Berhardt, explorer Richard Byrd, inventor Thomas Edison, industrialist Harvey Firestone, President William Howard Taft, and aviator Amelia Earhart.

Kellogg provided his patients with plans to readjust their diet and lifestyle in order to return to good health. Some of his health and fitness regimes seemed unusual -- like exercising in athletic diapers, or multiple daily enemas, or dunks into electrified water pools. Others made more sense. He promoted a vegetarian diet, including yogurt and tofu. He preached the value of aerobic exercise using recorded music.


Kellogg and his brother eventually invented the corn flake and soon their cereal business became one of the most successful in the world. Surprisingly enough the man whose company would one day give birth to the Pop Tart was in his way a pioneer of that hallowed health practice: the colonic.

Kellogg considered the colon central to good health. He lectured on the theory of "autointoxication", a self-poisoning caused by the too-slow breakdown of food in the intestines and colon. He preached a vegetarian diet, exercise, and frequent bowel movements. "A housebroken colon is a damaged colon," he warned.


Its good to know massive companies like Kellogg can be effected by citizens groups who spread nutritional awareness. While the new policy probably won’t have much of an impact (the mind-numbing rush of a fruit loop needs no boost from a marketing campaign), the announcement does indicate that consumers can still influence the policies of large food corporations.

liljohn

liljohn

USA
November 2006

JUN 18, 2007 10:15 AM

Who's buying the groceries, the kids or the parents? If the parents buy a six pack of budweiser and gives it to the kid, then it must be budweiser's fault, right?

DeadBilly

DeadBilly

Burnt Cabins, PA
February 2004

JUN 18, 2007 10:18 AM

liljohn295737 said:
Who's buying the groceries, the kids or the parents? If the parents buy a six pack of budweiser and gives it to the kid, then it must be budweiser's fault, right?



But that would mean telling Little Johnny and Susie no! It's so much easier when the guvmint and corporations raise the kids.

Trahern

Trahern

United Kingdom
March 2003

JUN 18, 2007 10:49 AM

Elves, dammit. tongue

Kellog's cereals were good for you before it became a brand, I suppose. Then making money became a factor and they started catering to the sugar rush addicts.

...I want to try the electrified water pool. biggrin

Tiger_Fodder

Tiger_Fodder

Braintree, MA
June 2007

JUN 18, 2007 10:59 AM

mr_gosh said:

liljohn295737 said:
Who's buying the groceries, the kids or the parents? If the parents buy a six pack of budweiser and gives it to the kid, then it must be budweiser's fault, right?



But that would mean telling Little Johnny and Susie no! It's so much easier when the guvmint and corporations raise the kids.


There is no surprise here that many American parents have long abdicated their responsibilities for child rearing to corporations and the government.

NadzOfSteel

NadzOfSteel

Brooklyn, NY
August 2004

JUN 18, 2007 11:02 AM

You've got to see "The Road to Wellville", all (satirically) about Kellogg and his sanitarium. It's hilarious.

geo35

geo35

Minneapolis, MN
January 2003

JUN 18, 2007 12:10 PM

Ohmigod!

If we are pressured to stop buzzing up children with sugary/chemically glop disguised as "food," then our friends in big pharma won't be able to peddle their parents the drugs they need to calm them back down again.

Why, this could seriously hamper our ability to run amok!

Uncognitive

Uncognitive

Brooklyn, NY
May 2003

JUN 18, 2007 12:23 PM

Man, I remember when the sugar content of a children's breakfast cereal used to be a selling point.

craig_davis_83

craig_davis_83

Goldendale, WA
November 2005

JUN 18, 2007 12:31 PM

gawd im gonna miss the rush of my mornig .. lunch and most times dinner cereal frown

mitchclem

mitchclem

San Antonio, TX
August 2005

JUN 18, 2007 12:50 PM

Step one: Get rid of your TV. Kids won't know or care they're missing out on Saturday morning advertisement blocks if you don't allow that shit into your home in the first place. Everyone I know who have kids and no television have astoundingly calm, well-mannered kids with attention spans and who like to read and make art and play outside.

Step two: Teach responsible, healthy eating habits. Remember that one friend everyone had when we were younger whose parents never let him eat a bunch of sugary shit, and he was upset about it as a teen, but now as an adult he's the only one in our group who's still healthy and in shape?

Heathen_Dave

Heathen_Dave

Birmingham, AL
July 2005

JUN 18, 2007 01:31 PM

liljohn295737 said:
Who's buying the groceries, the kids or the parents? If the parents buy a six pack of budweiser and gives it to the kid, then it must be budweiser's fault, right?



+1

My parents never let me have this sort of garbage, it was always corn flakes, shredded wheat, etc. Hell, I barely even remember asking for the cereals that were advertised during cartoons.

Pandapeep

Pandapeep

Miamisburg, OH
March 2006

JUN 18, 2007 01:33 PM

They can pry my sugary cerels out of my cold, dead hands!

unravled

unravled

Portland, OR
August 2003

JUN 18, 2007 01:42 PM

liljohn295737 said:
Who's buying the groceries, the kids or the parents? If the parents buy a six pack of budweiser and gives it to the kid, then it must be budweiser's fault, right?



I mostly agree with you, but Budweiser doesn't advertise to seven year olds. I watched a kid have a meltdown in the cereal aisle the other day because his mom wouldn't buy him some cereal he undoubtedly saw on TV.

The mom just let the kid scream and led him down the next aisle, but I know there are parents out there that would put it in the cart just to avoid a scene.

We can all wish that people raised their kids better than that, but surely corporate responsibility isn't a bad thing, right?

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

JUN 18, 2007 01:53 PM

unravled said:I mostly agree with you, but Budweiser doesn't advertise to seven year olds. I watched a kid have a meltdown in the cereal aisle the other day because his mom wouldn't buy him some cereal he undoubtedly saw on TV.




Look Daddy, the Horsies are playing football. Look at the frogs and ferrets daddy.

Part of the problem with kids today is the adults are so damned stupid that commercials have to be on a sixth grade level for a good portion of the population to understand them.

My kid eats sugary cereals. She also watches TV. She also reads, goes outside to play, and uses the very creative imagination she has. We have so many "consumer groups" watching out for our kids, Darwin's Theory can't work.

It won't be long before every kid is required to have his own bubble so that knee and elbow scrapes don't happen anymore. OUTLAW BICYCLES, MY KID FELL OFF OF ONE AND THEY ARE DANGEROUS! How can someone manufacture such a machine, i am going to SUE!

Raising kids is NOT that hard. You teach them what NO means, you discipline them if they create a scene and you teach them that YOU are the boss. If you never taught your kid to look both ways before crossing the street and he/she gets mowed down by a car doing the speed limit, it's NOT the driver's fault, it's YOUR fault for not teaching your kid to look both ways.

AppleJax

AppleJax

Regina, SK
November 2005

JUN 18, 2007 02:08 PM

I only got a box of sugary cereal on my birthday...usually cornpops. So that was like...2 boxes a year cause my sister got one on her birthday too and we shared. Yeah, that's it...

Flawedhero

Flawedhero

Suwanee, GA
October 2006

JUN 18, 2007 02:13 PM

BrokenandHostile said:

unravled said:I mostly agree with you, but Budweiser doesn't advertise to seven year olds. I watched a kid have a meltdown in the cereal aisle the other day because his mom wouldn't buy him some cereal he undoubtedly saw on TV.




Look Daddy, the Horsies are playing football. Look at the frogs and ferrets daddy.

Part of the problem with kids today is the adults are so damned stupid that commercials have to be on a sixth grade level for a good portion of the population to understand them.

My kid eats sugary cereals. She also watches TV. She also reads, goes outside to play, and uses the very creative imagination she has. We have so many "consumer groups" watching out for our kids, Darwin's Theory can't work.

It won't be long before every kid is required to have his own bubble so that knee and elbow scrapes don't happen anymore. OUTLAW BICYCLES, MY KID FELL OFF OF ONE AND THEY ARE DANGEROUS! How can someone manufacture such a machine, i am going to SUE!

Raising kids is NOT that hard. You teach them what NO means, you discipline them if they create a scene and you teach them that YOU are the boss. If you never taught your kid to look both ways before crossing the street and he/she gets mowed down by a car doing the speed limit, it's NOT the driver's fault, it's YOUR fault for not teaching your kid to look both ways.



Damn straight, couldn't have said it better myself.

malkav11

malkav11

Saint Paul, MN
July 2003

JUN 18, 2007 02:24 PM

mitchclem said:
Step two: Teach responsible, healthy eating habits. Remember that one friend everyone had when we were younger whose parents never let him eat a bunch of sugary shit, and he was upset about it as a teen, but now as an adult he's the only one in our group who's still healthy and in shape?



It all depends. My mom taught responsible, healthy eating patterns and denied me junk foods like sugary cereals except in very special circumstances. The end result was that once I was buying my own food I went nuts on everything I'd been wanting so long. I eventually settled back down, but I'm still struggling finding a decent balance between price, convenience, taste, and health.

unravled

unravled

Portland, OR
August 2003

JUN 18, 2007 02:25 PM

BrokenandHostile said:
Look Daddy, the Horsies are playing football. Look at the frogs and ferrets daddy.

Part of the problem with kids today is the adults are so damned stupid that commercials have to be on a sixth grade level for a good portion of the population to understand them.

My kid eats sugary cereals. She also watches TV. She also reads, goes outside to play, and uses the very creative imagination she has. We have so many "consumer groups" watching out for our kids, Darwin's Theory can't work.

It won't be long before every kid is required to have his own bubble so that knee and elbow scrapes don't happen anymore. OUTLAW BICYCLES, MY KID FELL OFF OF ONE AND THEY ARE DANGEROUS! How can someone manufacture such a machine, i am going to SUE!

Raising kids is NOT that hard. You teach them what NO means, you discipline them if they create a scene and you teach them that YOU are the boss. If you never taught your kid to look both ways before crossing the street and he/she gets mowed down by a car doing the speed limit, it's NOT the driver's fault, it's YOUR fault for not teaching your kid to look both ways.



I do think individual responsibility is important. Just as important as corporate responsibility. Does anyone really think this is a bad move by Kellogg?

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

JUN 18, 2007 02:36 PM

unravled said:
I do think individual responsibility is important. Just as important as corporate responsibility. Does anyone really think this is a bad move by Kellogg?



I do.

People choose how to live their life. Corporations make money by selling things. Be it sugary cereal or firearms.

Part of being Free is being able to eat like shit! If i want to go out and eat a box of Sugar Coated Sugar Pellets i should be able to go out and BUY a box of sugar coated sugar pellets, without the corporation worrying about getting sued because they need a crane to lift me out of my house.

How i choose to live is my choice, i don't need a consumer group, or a health nut hanging over me screaming "It's going to kill you!". Once again, Darwin's theory will take care of me. The consequences of MY choices are my responsibility. Not a corporations, not anyone else. I CHOSE to eat sugar coated sugar pellets til i had a massive coronary and died, that is the consequences of MY choices.

So many people are so busy being in other people's business that they can't take care of their own responsibilities! Live your life the way YOU want to and don't attack someone else for the way they choose to live THEIRS!

unravled

unravled

Portland, OR
August 2003

JUN 18, 2007 02:46 PM

BrokenandHostile said:
I do.

People choose how to live their life. Corporations make money by selling things. Be it sugary cereal or firearms.

Part of being Free is being able to eat like shit! If i want to go out and eat a box of Sugar Coated Sugar Pellets i should be able to go out and BUY a box of sugar coated sugar pellets, without the corporation worrying about getting sued because they need a crane to lift me out of my house.

How i choose to live is my choice, i don't need a consumer group, or a health nut hanging over me screaming "It's going to kill you!". Once again, Darwin's theory will take care of me. The consequences of MY choices are my responsibility. Not a corporations, not anyone else. I CHOSE to eat sugar coated sugar pellets til i had a massive coronary and died, that is the consequences of MY choices.

So many people are so busy being in other people's business that they can't take care of their own responsibilities! Live your life the way YOU want to and don't attack someone else for the way they choose to live THEIRS!



Kellogg isn't going to stop making sugary cereals, they're going to stop advertising them to children.

Consumer groups are there to tell another side of the story. Nutrition information wouldn't even be listed on the box if it was just up to the corporations. You're able to make an informed decision, and choose whether or not you or children eat what you eat because of actions taken by individuals, consumer groups, and legislation.

wrnits

wrnits

Montreal, QC
June 2003

JUN 18, 2007 02:50 PM

Only 12g of sugar?! The horror! I'll have to pour coke over my lucky charms now!

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

JUN 18, 2007 02:52 PM

unravled said:

BrokenandHostile said:
I do.

People choose how to live their life. Corporations make money by selling things. Be it sugary cereal or firearms.

Part of being Free is being able to eat like shit! If i want to go out and eat a box of Sugar Coated Sugar Pellets i should be able to go out and BUY a box of sugar coated sugar pellets, without the corporation worrying about getting sued because they need a crane to lift me out of my house.

How i choose to live is my choice, i don't need a consumer group, or a health nut hanging over me screaming "It's going to kill you!". Once again, Darwin's theory will take care of me. The consequences of MY choices are my responsibility. Not a corporations, not anyone else. I CHOSE to eat sugar coated sugar pellets til i had a massive coronary and died, that is the consequences of MY choices.

So many people are so busy being in other people's business that they can't take care of their own responsibilities! Live your life the way YOU want to and don't attack someone else for the way they choose to live THEIRS!



Kellogg isn't going to stop making sugary cereals, they're going to stop advertising them to children.

Consumer groups are there to tell another side of the story. Nutrition information wouldn't even be listed on the box if it was just up to the corporations. You're able to make an informed decision, and choose whether or not you or children eat what you eat because of actions taken by individuals, consumer groups, and legislation.



Okay i didn't realize that they were going to continue production, so that destroys half my rant.

I just get irritated with how everyone expects special treatment. I am personally an alcoholic. Do i think budweiser should stop advertising beer because i am an alcoholic and other people suffer from it? No. My choices to consume made me an alcoholic. I have the ability to choose to stop consuming and overcome alcoholism, i don't think a major corporation should stop advertising it's products because of a certain group of people.

and i still say that a good portion of the population doesn't even read/care about the nutritional facts printed on the box. If they did, Twinky and Ho Ho sales would plummet.

Omega_Blue

Omega_Blue

Antelope, CA
June 2007

JUN 18, 2007 03:09 PM

I have a simple answer to all things: moderation. Most foods, beverages or products can be unhealthy if taken to excess, but if one takes them in moderation there will be no problem...I think this is the best thing that one can teach to children, rather than saying this is bad, don't ever eat it, drink it, I think one should educate them on the concept of moderation...

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

JUN 18, 2007 03:14 PM

evanharos said:

Kellogg Co., facing a lawsuit and pressure from consumer groups, on Thursday said it will only market food to children that meets certain nutritional standards.

The largest U.S. cereal maker said that products advertised on media for which half the audience is under 12 years old will have 200 or less calories per serving, less than 2 grams of saturated fat and no more than 230 milligrams of sodium and 12 grams of sugar.




You know, I can't help but think all the background information about the company in this story smells an awful lot like filler, added to make up for the fact that you just quoted the entire two-paragraph Reuters story and neglected to include any sort of additional information about it.

30 seconds of searching took me to the Kelloggs press release announcing the new measures, which has a lot more information. 2 minutes with Google brought me to this fully-fleshed out story which actually talks a little bit about the consumer groups who were threatening legal action.

You could have used the information you dug up about Kellogg's background to point out how this isn't out of character for them even though they make a large portion of their income from sugary cereals.... but you didn't.

BrokenandHostile said:

unravled said:
I do think individual responsibility is important. Just as important as corporate responsibility. Does anyone really think this is a bad move by Kellogg?



I do.

People choose how to live their life. Corporations make money by selling things. Be it sugary cereal or firearms.

Part of being Free is being able to eat like shit! If i want to go out and eat a box of Sugar Coated Sugar Pellets i should be able to go out and BUY a box of sugar coated sugar pellets, without the corporation worrying about getting sued because they need a crane to lift me out of my house.

How i choose to live is my choice, i don't need a consumer group, or a health nut hanging over me screaming "It's going to kill you!". Once again, Darwin's theory will take care of me. The consequences of MY choices are my responsibility. Not a corporations, not anyone else. I CHOSE to eat sugar coated sugar pellets til i had a massive coronary and died, that is the consequences of MY choices.

So many people are so busy being in other people's business that they can't take care of their own responsibilities! Live your life the way YOU want to and don't attack someone else for the way they choose to live THEIRS!


Whoa, easy there.

Nobody's saying you're not still free to eat like shit. Hell, nobody's even going to stop telling you you should eat like shit buy their product. You're no less free to do so now than you were last year.

I'm glad you're big on personal responsibility, but young children simply don't have the mental capacity to make informed decisions about household purchases and their long-term effects. There are already laws in place regarding marketing to children, and this is a voluntary move by Kellogg to simply reduce their advertising. This is not part of some wacky "slippery slope" campaign.

Also, I really don't understand your argument. It seems like you're saying that the notion that you should be free to make your own decisions somehow translates to, "Companies should be free to tell me what to buy, and I don't want anyone interfering with that!" As wrongheaded as that is at face value, it still misses the point that nobody said they can't market their cereal to you.

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

JUN 18, 2007 03:17 PM

BrokenandHostile said:
and i still say that a good portion of the population doesn't even read/care about the nutritional facts printed on the box. If they did, Twinky and Ho Ho sales would plummet.


Those of us who care about what we eat (even if we buy stuff that's bad for us from time to time) appreciate having such labels. The fact that many people don't pay attention to them does not negate the fact that I and many others are grateful to those who worked to pressure food companies and the government to create those labels.

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