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Aaron_Lariviere

Aaron_Lariviere

Los Angeles, CA
May 2007

JUN 03, 2007 01:54 PM



As if conservative America didn’t already view the Netherlands as a lair of sin and depravity, along comes a story that can only be described as an abomination of inhumanity... there aren't enough adjectives to describe how fucking sick this is. According to ABC News Online, a gang of Dutch men have been accused of luring gay men to orgies where the victims were then drugged, raped, and injected with their own HIV-infected blood.

After four victims came forward to Dutch police, the gang -- consisting of three HIV-positive gay men -- was arrested along with a fourth scumfuck who supplied them with large amounts of GHB and Ecstasy to aid in the rapes. Mr. Ronald Zwarter, the police chief of Groningen, where the rapes allegedly occurred, said:

(Their) stated motive was that it excited them and also that, the more HIV-infected people there are, the better their chances of unprotected sex. They considered unprotected relations to be 'pure’.


Since the arrests were made, eight more victims have come forward. Numerous public figures in the Netherlands have spoken out against the crimes:

Health Minister Ab Klink on Thursday called the case "horrible", as the press splashed the news across its front pages.
...
"That homos [sic] organize orgies is nothing new, but this is something else. This is unimaginable," said Frank van Dalen, the president of a gay rights group called COC.
...
Said Henk Krol, the editor of a homosexual magazine titled Gaykrant: "These people were drugged, it's therefore rape, pure and simple. It's shameful, disgusting and terrifying. Those who did this are crazy."


Normally this is the point in a story where I’d crack a joke, or post a zany YouTube clip, but there's nothing here to laugh at. I hate condoms as much as the next guy, but they've become a necessary part of life; as much as I typically advocate sexual freedom in all its splendor, there’s just no excuse here, none whatsoever. This casual disregard for human life is just so inhumanly narcissistic and cruel. That this has happened at all is simply terrifying, like some real life twist taken from Hostel or Saw, only far, far worse.

CherryCoke

CherryCoke

Derry, NH
May 2007

JUN 03, 2007 08:15 PM

What's worse is they'll only go to jail for up to 16 years.
They're making it out to seem that only gay men can transmit AIDS. Which is absolutely absurd.
But if the media says it's true, then it must be.

Metaverse

Metaverse

USA
March 2005

JUN 03, 2007 08:23 PM

What is there to say really....this is fucking horrible.

Bicycle_Samurai

Bicycle_Samurai

York, ON
September 2003

JUN 03, 2007 08:25 PM

Injecting someone with a deadly virus is murder.

They should all get life. Simple.

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

JUN 03, 2007 08:28 PM

Damn. That's fucked up.

Saraphine

Saraphine

SUICIDEGIRL

Pennsylvania, USA

JUN 03, 2007 08:29 PM

This is sick and awful. Reminds me of Gaetan Dugas in a way:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)
A journalist, Randy Shilts, subsequently wrote about Patient Zero -- based on Darrow's findings -- in his 1987 book And The Band Played On, which identified Patient Zero as a gay Canadian flight attendant named Gaëtan Dugas (February 20, 1953_March 30, 1984 [1]). For several years, Dugas was vilified as a "mass spreader" of HIV and the original source of the HIV epidemic among gay men. However, four years after the publication of Shilts's article, Dr. Darrow repudiated his study, admitting that its methods were flawed and claiming that Shilts had misrepresented the study's conclusions.{

DeadBilly

DeadBilly

Burnt Cabins, PA
February 2004

JUN 03, 2007 08:30 PM

This sound like something out of a Dennis Cooper novel.

BDeyeD

BDeyeD

Toronto, ON
January 2007

JUN 03, 2007 08:37 PM

TheAngrySloth said:
Injecting someone with a deadly virus is murder.

They should all get life. Simple.



I concur, totally. First degree murder, to boot.

NYSGuy

NYSGuy

New York, NY
February 2007

JUN 03, 2007 08:38 PM

Thank You for your candor in reporting this unbelievably sad, sick story. Thank You for framing it in the wretched light that it deserves.

MrMcGuire

MrMcGuire

Oakland, CA
November 2005

JUN 03, 2007 08:44 PM

wow, shit.......thats just fucked up..... Damn

DownNeck

DownNeck

Jersey City, NJ
March 2006

JUN 03, 2007 09:12 PM

BDeyeD said:

TheAngrySloth said:
Injecting someone with a deadly virus is murder.

They should all get life. Simple.



I concur, totally. First degree murder, to boot.



the law in the netherlands may be different, but i believe it's only murder if someone dies. this would probably be something like attempted murder, i think...

either way, in principle i agree...they deserve the deepest darkest hell we can manufacture

Gayballs

Gayballs

Seattle, WA
July 2005

JUN 03, 2007 10:57 PM

vile

SonOfAPunk

SonOfAPunk

Maple Ridge, BC
January 2006

JUN 03, 2007 11:10 PM

It's a shame that the gay community is going to suffer the brunt of this,

Prejuduce-Generalization-Fest '07!

I think that anyone who pushes any anti-gay shit after this should be charged to the full extent of whatever hatecrime laws they have there.

As for the story itself... You couldn't make up something this fucked up.

One thing I don't understand is the motives behind the druggings and rapings. Weren't the victims there for a gay orgy to begin with? What the fuck is the point of the druggings and rapings? All this simply to assure their victims get HIV?!

Messed.

Fucking messed.

DCruz

DCruz

Montreal-nord, QC
November 2006

JUN 03, 2007 11:15 PM

another horrible story to add to the books of humanity, which is getting larger everyday frown

Heathen_Dave

Heathen_Dave

Birmingham, AL
July 2005

JUN 03, 2007 11:36 PM

Hooray for People!

Hooray! Hooray! Hooray!

puke puke puke

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

JUN 04, 2007 12:04 AM

the human being in me (who's half Dutch, to boot) finds this absolutely deplorable and thinks they should get more sever punishment.

the evil genius bent on world domination and the sewing of utter chaos and destruction through all the world and the shattering of the very foundations of civilization in me finds this horrendous and shameful. and lame.

both sides of me agree that Pure Sex™ requires consent in all aspects of the act from all parties involved. so they can go fornicate themselves with an iron stick. with spikes.

Quirky

Quirky

Birmingham, AL
October 2005

JUN 04, 2007 12:38 AM

Frank van Dalen, the president of a gay rights group called COC.


*chortle*

Libby

Libby

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

JUN 04, 2007 12:43 AM

oh....my...gawd.

yeahrightjosue

yeahrightjosue

Boston, MA
February 2007

JUN 04, 2007 12:46 AM

TheAngrySloth said:
Injecting someone with a deadly virus is murder.

They should all get life. Simple.



I agree this is murder, because they might die now, and they raped their victims.

This is disgusting.

Evilgasm

Evilgasm

Netherlands
April 2007

JUN 04, 2007 02:24 AM

CherryCoke said:
They're making it out to seem that only gay men can transmit AIDS. Which is absolutely absurd.



Don't actually see this happening anywhere...

DownNeck said:

BDeyeD said:

TheAngrySloth said:
Injecting someone with a deadly virus is murder.

They should all get life. Simple.



I concur, totally. First degree murder, to boot.



the law in the netherlands may be different, but i believe it's only murder if someone dies. this would probably be something like attempted murder, i think...

either way, in principle i agree...they deserve the deepest darkest hell we can manufacture



*grabs law books*

Dutch law classifies this as TWO separate crimes: First of all Rape, punishable by up to 12 years in prison. And secondly Premeditated Aggravated Assault also punishable by up to 12 years in prison.This is PER CASE. So far there have been 8 reported (though the police fear there may be many, many morefrown ).

If the prosecution play their cards right they can send these guys away pretty much forever. Since there is also an obvious mental disorder here, as well as danger of repeated behavior they can also be sentenced to become "Wards of the State" (TBS in dutch). This means the basically get committed to a mental health facility for 2 years after they have served their jail time, but this can then be extended by four years (and extended again EVERY four years there after) without a trial. Strictly based on them being found by their wardens to be mentally fit to return to society. Which i hope will NEVER happen.

Since both of them are terminally ill i think the only thing they have to look forward too is a slow painful death behind bars.

If there was a worse fate I would wish it upon them. But i think this is the closest to justice we can get in this world.

HollowButcher

HollowButcher

Vineland, NJ
May 2006

JUN 04, 2007 03:49 AM

The fact the human can do something like this to another human makes me sick. Why can't everyone just live at peace with one anoither and not start shit? I understand it's a lot to ask, there's a lot of fucked up people in the world, but what makes a person do this?

People like this should be treated as murderers, because that's what the they are. I believe they should get the same kind of sentance that any other rapist, murderer or whatever should get. Convict them and with no hesitation shoot them. Don't waste money feeding, clothing, and keeping them alive in jail for however long. Just so they can get out and do it again. Just kill them on the spot and save the tax dollars. People like this do not deserve life.

Hopefully things will change soon enough.

Stompbox

Stompbox

West Des Moines, IA
February 2006

JUN 04, 2007 05:03 AM

They're going to end up in prison, where they can continue doing just what they've been doing. They're probably looking forward to it.

Nokturn

Nokturn

United Kingdom
April 2006

JUN 04, 2007 05:31 AM

In light of recent articles, should there be a 'sick shit' section added to the newswire?

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

I'm lost
January 2006

JUN 04, 2007 05:56 AM

Nokturn said:
In light of recent articles, should there be a 'sick shit' section added to the newswire?



Newswire stories that make you go WTF?

supernovice

supernovice

Afghanistan
November 2002

JUN 04, 2007 07:36 AM

What I find intriguing, aside from this story being just horrendous beyond belief, is that, while you admit that the story's content is too disturbing to be of any entertainment value (with which I agree), and your report is "soley" informative, that you do use this incredibly sad and horrific tragedy to promote your personal politcal agenda:

Aaron_Lariviere
As if conservative America didn't already view the Netherlands as a lair of sin and depravity...



Somehow, I fail to recognize the relation of this terribly, terribly disturbing news of a gang of gay, dutch, rapists, who inject their HIV infected blood into drugged victims, with "conservative America." Please explain. You're sensitive to the fact that it's too wretched to be used to poke fun, but not too bad to be used for taking a shot at some barely defined, neo-political ideology? Riiiight.

My suggestion, in order to avoid this very simple dilemna in future "News" reports, is what we refer to in the scholarly world as "Logic 101" and "Introduction to Critical Thinking" - they are classes being taught at a university near you. Take advantage of it.

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