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Bitch_PhD

Bitch_PhD

I'm lost
February 2007

MAY 18, 2007 01:37 PM



...but not only is smoking apparently less carcinogenic than blowjobs*, it's also more pleasurable.

After controlling for other risk factors for throat cancer, such as drinking and smoking, the analysis revealed that people who had prior infection with HPV were 32 times as likely to have this cancer as those with no evidence of ever having the virus. And those who tested positive for a particularly aggressive strain of the virus, called HPV-16, were 58 times more likely to have throat cancer.

By comparison, either smoking or drinking increases the risk of such cancer by about threefold.



From here on out, no pole smoking--cigarettes only, thanks.

Bitch_PhD isn't gonna lie--Sherman's MCDs taste better than spunk.

Tangus

Tangus

Chicago, IL
November 2005

MAY 18, 2007 02:04 PM

I have it on good authority that Luckies DO in fact taste better. love

sirrogue2

sirrogue2

League City, TX
March 2007

MAY 18, 2007 02:05 PM

That is messed up. I guess those porn stars better have damn good insurance coverage....

Gillionaire

Gillionaire

Manchester, NH
February 2007

MAY 18, 2007 02:20 PM

Good thing a lot of people still put fun ahead of health!

Gigondas

Gigondas

Charlotte, NC
January 2003

MAY 18, 2007 02:23 PM

What you are saying makes no sense.

1) It's one study.
2) How common is throat cancer?

Think about it. Wait, never mind...

wavion

wavion

I'm lost
March 2007

MAY 18, 2007 02:23 PM

You forgot to mention that the penis had to be infected with the Human Papillomavirus. So, yeah, fellating a STD-infected penis is bad for you. Big surprise.

Vodnik

Vodnik

Auburn, WA
December 2006

MAY 18, 2007 02:25 PM

Wavion's right; it's technically incorrect to say that it's the oral sex per se which causes throat cancer when in fact it appears to be the HPV which does.

hor

hor

I'm lost
June 2005

MAY 18, 2007 02:27 PM



penis

Gillionaire

Gillionaire

Manchester, NH
February 2007

MAY 18, 2007 02:31 PM

hor said:


penis



I concur.

bloodhigh

bloodhigh

Shawnee, OK
October 2006

MAY 18, 2007 02:32 PM

im with wavion

NinjaTech

NinjaTech

Minneapolis, MN
November 2003

MAY 18, 2007 02:33 PM

I really like the picture banner for this story. Good job whoever whipped it up.

Trahern

Trahern

United Kingdom
March 2003

MAY 18, 2007 02:40 PM

So how common is HPV? The article seems to suggest one in five people have it, but...

Let's do a study and ask a bunch of smokers and non-smokers which they think tastes better.

d20

d20

San Francisco, CA
September 2003

MAY 18, 2007 02:42 PM

Vodnik said:
Wavion's right; it's technically incorrect to say that it's the oral sex per se which causes throat cancer when in fact it appears to be the HPV which does.



indeed. not only this, but it appears that Bitch isn't even her real name.

wavion

wavion

I'm lost
March 2007

MAY 18, 2007 02:47 PM

Based on this chart:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Cases_of_HPV_cancers_graph.png

It looks like there about maybe 5000 HPV-induced throat cancers WORLDWIDE annually.

DhD_No_Pants

DhD_No_Pants

Katy, TX
May 2006

MAY 18, 2007 02:49 PM

wavion said:
You forgot to mention that the penis had to be infected with the Human Papillomavirus. So, yeah, fellating a STD-infected penis is bad for you. Big surprise.



It's not a big surprise, but I'm amazed at the amount of people who do not realize how prevalent HPV is, how many people carry it without knowing, etc.

Considering that HPV is also the leading cause of cervical cancer, I'm not surprised that the virus could also be cancerous in other locations.

holymankenneth

holymankenneth

I'm lost
January 2007

MAY 18, 2007 02:53 PM

according to this week's savage love, the same is to be said about cunniligis.
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove

but, that won't stop me.

Declin

Declin

Toronto, ON
November 2004

MAY 18, 2007 03:00 PM

This is the problem with lay-people reading scientific articles....

Sure, HPV may cause oropharyngeal cancers, which are rare, but smoking causes LUNG cancer and emphysema which is unfortunately a significant cause of morbidity and mortality worldwide. So saying that cigarettes are "less carcinogenic" is a steaming heap of bullshit. Not sure what you got your PhD in.... it sure wasn't clinical epidemiology.

"whereof one cannot speak thereof one must be silent"

get your facts straight.

Bitch_PhD

Bitch_PhD

I'm lost
February 2007

MAY 18, 2007 03:04 PM

Declan said:
This is the problem with lay-people reading scientific articles....

Sure, HPV may cause oropharyngeal cancers, which are rare, but smoking causes LUNG cancer and emphysema which is unfortunately a significant cause of morbidity and mortality worldwide. So saying that cigarettes are "less carcinogenic" is a steaming heap of bullshit. Not sure what you got your PhD in.... it sure wasn't clinical epidemiology.

"whereof one cannot speak thereof one must be silent"

get your facts straight.



Contrary to popular opinion, higher education doesn't, in fact, remove one's sense of humor.

Dunno what your problem is, though. Candianism?

Vestril

Vestril

Coronado, CA
February 2003

MAY 18, 2007 03:09 PM

Bitch_PhD said:

Contrary to popular opinion, higher education doesn't, in fact, remove one's sense of humor.

Dunno what your problem is, though. Candianism?



Bah, Canadians are well known for their sense of humor. You're just getting your facts wrong left and right.

Quirky

Quirky

Birmingham, AL
October 2005

MAY 18, 2007 03:09 PM

Now I know not to ask the new girl at my work, who just beat Cancer, and who really digs me for some reason, for deepthroat. surreal

Jimtorious

Jimtorious

Edmonton, AB
January 2004

MAY 18, 2007 03:10 PM

I think it's pretty clear by now that EVERYTHING causes Cancer. Except broccoli, which is unfortunately contaminated with some parasite that usually lives up our asses... I think this is why I generally dislike scientists. You know damn well that they are preparing the "pro blow job" study, even as I type this.

ObservingOne

ObservingOne

Monroe, LA
April 2006

MAY 18, 2007 03:14 PM

Jimtorious said:
I think it's pretty clear by now that EVERYTHING causes Cancer. Except broccoli, which is unfortunately contaminated with some parasite that usually lives up our asses... I think this is why I generally dislike scientists. You know damn well that they are preparing the "pro blow job" study, even as I type this.



I'll contribute to fund the "pro blow job" study. biggrin


Also, THANKFULLY, there is an HPV vaccine so those of us who haven't contracted it can be safe and free to give and receive blowjobs worry free and guilt free.

I'm not 100% sure if the vaccine protects against this specific type of HPV. Someone with more time might want to go check that.

DhD_No_Pants

DhD_No_Pants

Katy, TX
May 2006

MAY 18, 2007 03:22 PM

ObservingOne said:

Jimtorious said:
I think it's pretty clear by now that EVERYTHING causes Cancer. Except broccoli, which is unfortunately contaminated with some parasite that usually lives up our asses... I think this is why I generally dislike scientists. You know damn well that they are preparing the "pro blow job" study, even as I type this.



I'll contribute to fund the "pro blow job" study. biggrin


Also, THANKFULLY, there is an HPV vaccine so those of us who haven't contracted it can be safe and free to give and receive blowjobs worry free and guilt free.

I'm not 100% sure if the vaccine protects against this specific type of HPV. Someone with more time might want to go check that.



HPV-16 and HPV-18 are the strains that they have developed a vaccine for, and it is the strain linked to both cervical and now, apparently, throat cancer.

I don't know if the vaccine would also be effective against the type of throat cancer, here is the type of cervical cancer it protects against:



"Human papillomavirus types 16 (HPV-16) and 18 (HPV-18) cause approximately 70% of cervical cancers worldwide," write Laura A. Koutsky, PhD, from the University of Washington in Seattle, and colleagues from the FUTURE II study group. "When phase 3 trials of prophylactic HPV vaccines were in the planning stages, the vaccine advisory committee of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) recommended that these trials be powered to demonstrate efficacy in preventing high-grade cervical lesions that are classified as cervical intraepithelial neoplasia grade 2 or 3, a perspective endorsed by the World Health Organization (WHO)."



edited: It's just funny that this is coming out, I was just looking up studies for my mom, who is considering vaccinating my little sister.

Saraphine

Saraphine

SUICIDEGIRL

Pennsylvania, USA

MAY 18, 2007 03:23 PM

Trahern said:
So how common is HPV? The article seems to suggest one in five people have it, but...

Let's do a study and ask a bunch of smokers and non-smokers which they think tastes better.



VERY common.


6. How common is HPV infection? It is one of the most common sexually transmitted diseases in the world, with probably more cases of genital HPV infection than of any other STD in the United States. About 50% to 75% of sexually active men and women contract genital HPV infection at some point in their lives. About 5.5 million Americans get a new HPV infection each year, making HPV the most commonly acquired STD. For more information, visit the CDC's Division of Sexually Transmitted Diseases.



src

ObservingOne

ObservingOne

Monroe, LA
April 2006

MAY 18, 2007 03:24 PM

Well the vaccine is to prevent those strains of HPV so it would have to protect against any cancers caused by them since the HPV wouldn't be contracted in the first place.

Thanks for the information.

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