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erin_broadley

erin_broadley

Los Angeles, CA
October 2006

MAY 11, 2007 04:56 PM



At this point we all know that smoking kills. For obvious reasons there have been significant changes made by the media to clamp down on the habit's "cool factor" and limit the marketing of cancer sticks to kids. But when the MPAA announced yesterday (May 10th) that it would begin to implement drastic changes to the ratings system that would censor movies that depicted smoking cigarettes with the same vehemence typically reserved for sex and violence -- well, that's just taking it a bit too far (in my not so humble opinion.)

The Motion Picture Association of America on Thursday said portrayals of smoking would be considered alongside sex and violence in assessing the suitability of movies for young viewers. Films that appear to glamorize smoking will risk a more restrictive rating, and descriptions of tobacco use will be added to the increasingly detailed advisories that accompany each rated film.
[...]
Some [anti-smoking groups] have even demanded that virtually any film with smoking be rated R, shutting out those under 17 unless they are accompanied by a parent or adult guardian.
[...]
Dr. Healton said her group advocated an R rating for all smoking references unless they were historically accurate or “unambiguously demonstrate the health issues.” Lindsay Doran, a veteran Hollywood producer known within the film community for her opposition to onscreen smoking, applauded the ratings revision.


Oh, so they're concerned about health issues. Well, currently the number one cause of death in America is heart disease. Obesity has trumped smoking as the biggest threat to our health. If we're going to start slapping an R-rating on any flick where the main character lights up then we should go all the way and do the same with any movie where someone chows down on a cheeseburger.

“It would be nice if we could leave this to the filmmakers,” said Ms. Doran, producer of last year’s PG-13 rated “Stranger Than Fiction,” in which Emma Thompson played something of a human ashtray, and quite deliberately deglamorized her tobacco addiction.


I agree with Doran. I think the decision should be left up to the filmmakers. If Jack Valenti were to have his way (even from the grave), it seems every Hollywood movie would play like a damn, public service announcement.

chikinhammr

chikinhammr

Orlando, FL
April 2006

MAY 11, 2007 05:31 PM

Political Correctness is a cancer. It's forming an inoperable tumor on the First Amendment, and it should be eliminated at any cost.

DCruz

DCruz

Montreal-nord, QC
November 2006

MAY 11, 2007 05:33 PM

I've seen people smoke all my life... my dad's best friend has been a smoker since I can remember when I was like 5 or 6... I've seen people smoke in movies... and yes, when I was a kid I did pretend to smoke. So did all that made me smoke in the end ? Nope. Why ? Cause people told me what would happen to me if I did.

Not showing people smoking to kids won't change anything unless we tell them what the consequences of smoking are. Hiding something doesn't make it go away. Like hiding dirt under that huge piece of furniture you never move. Oh sure you don't see it, but it's still under there !

Sometimes I really wonder who's in charge or all those things. No violence, no sex... and now no smoke. Well, that's fine with me as long as someone does it's educational job of telling our youth why some things are dangerous instead of just trying to hide em while hoping it'll be enough. puke

filmME

filmME

Vancouver, BC
May 2003

MAY 11, 2007 05:51 PM

Pretty soon... All we'll be shown is a homogeneous depiction of what our lives should be, devoid of emotion or meaning, choice or consequence.

Oh... wait...

DucksAreCrazy

DucksAreCrazy

Lexington, KY
December 2006

MAY 11, 2007 05:52 PM

When was the last time anyone saw a PG-13 movie with smoking in it?

Gillionaire

Gillionaire

Manchester, NH
February 2007

MAY 11, 2007 06:04 PM

Oh good holy god this is stupid. Yes, you have to be 18 and over to legally buy cigarettes in America. But anyone, of any age, can see someone smoking by walking down the street pretty much anywhere in America. It's a fact of life. People do it. I find it incredibly hard to believe that just seeing it is harmful.

If I was a filmmaker, I'd have every single character in my next movie smoke, just as a big Fuck You to this.

DeadBilly

DeadBilly

Burnt Cabins, PA
February 2004

MAY 11, 2007 06:05 PM

Will Casablanca (and every other movie in the 30s and 40s) get a retroactive R rating now?

McKenneth

McKenneth

Macedon, NY
August 2005

MAY 11, 2007 06:11 PM

Stickchair said:
When was the last time anyone saw a PG-13 movie with smoking in it?



Dreamgirls, Mission: Impossible III, World Trade Center, Bad News Bears, Coach Carter, The Longest Yard, Last Holiday, Elizabethtown, Yours Mine and Ours, The Honeymooners, Sahara, Casino Royale, Spider-Man 2, Batman Begins, School of Rock,The Lord of the Rings Trilogy, King Kong and that's just off the top of my head.

Not to say I agree with the MPAA. They fucking suck.

AceT

AceT

Portland, OR
April 2004

MAY 11, 2007 06:12 PM

I find this a bit superfluous; cigarettes already have a warning label. As long as you can read, you know they're hazardous to your health. If you choose to do it anyway, then that's just natural selection taking its course and I'd prefer the MPAA didn't get in the way of that.

apesamongus

apesamongus

Atlanta, GA
July 2002

MAY 11, 2007 06:18 PM

No dumber than any other criteria the MPAA uses. Now, that still makes it "fucking stupid", but I don't see a reason why smoking should be treated differently than they treat other drug use. Optimally, this will make people realize how stupid the MPAA ratings are, but even if it doesn't, it's no big loss.

imclever

imclever

Kent, WA
February 2007

MAY 11, 2007 06:56 PM

Once again, Arthur C. Clarke predicts the future.

In Ghost From the Grand Banks, two of his characters (IIRC) made a living digitally removing smoking from movies.


We have the technology now, easily.

connielingus

connielingus

Magnolia, NJ
September 2005

MAY 11, 2007 07:03 PM

Absolutely fucking ridiculous. But I'm not surprised, not one bit.

TheInsomniac

TheInsomniac

Washington, DC
October 2003

MAY 11, 2007 07:04 PM

Funny how all this is happening right after Jack Valenti's death.

Interesting note, Valenti's funeral took place right outside my office window. I saw half the power brokers in Washington AND Hollywood from my desk. The whole block was full of limos and police cars. It was surreal.

milan_ghost

milan_ghost

I'm lost
April 2007

MAY 11, 2007 07:20 PM

Well, if you think about it, smoking actually does kill a lot of people. Nudity never hurt no-one. It's really stupider that breasts are censored.

NinjaTech

NinjaTech

Minneapolis, MN
November 2003

MAY 11, 2007 07:50 PM

Good story. Very misleading title.

pmonkeyEsquire

pmonkeyEsquire

I'm lost
May 2004

MAY 11, 2007 08:49 PM

so what? now kids can't watch a Bogie flick??? Why not do the same with drinking. That kills. Damn the villification of smoking!!!

Formus

Formus

Milwaukee, WI
May 2007

MAY 11, 2007 10:29 PM

One more way for Americans to not take responsibility for their actions.

Slocum

Slocum

Dallas, TX
October 2005

MAY 11, 2007 10:40 PM

I thought Gore covered this earlier today...

They should probably be more concerned about the amount of shitty movies being produced.

photoline

photoline

Edmonton, AB
January 2005

MAY 11, 2007 10:46 PM

I think the MPAA people are smoking something, and it ain't tobacco...

curtisology

curtisology

USA
April 2006

MAY 11, 2007 11:03 PM

yeah, i thought the title meant a different kind of smoking....GRRR...

Anyways...the mpaa is just straight up insulting...I've never smoked in my life and my chosen entertainment isn't going to change my mind. Might as well put smoking-warning labels on all Tom Waits albums as well for christsakes...

Jimbo_Radio

Jimbo_Radio

Santa Cruz, CA
October 2005

MAY 11, 2007 11:32 PM

not to be a dick, but didn't i just read this story?
chris gore's story
confused

Jimbo_Radio

Jimbo_Radio

Santa Cruz, CA
October 2005

MAY 11, 2007 11:34 PM

KeatingMcFly said:
I thought Gore covered this earlier today...

They should probably be more concerned about the amount of shitty movies being produced.


guess i am a dick... some one beat me to the comment i just made! hahaha you win this round, keatingmcfly!!!

Slocum

Slocum

Dallas, TX
October 2005

MAY 11, 2007 11:41 PM

Alright! After twenty four years I finally won something! This makes my upcoming birthday not so depressing. ARRR!!!

Aaron

Aaron

Shakopee, MN
July 2004

MAY 12, 2007 01:11 AM

I really don't like the MPAA, I think they're bad people that do bad things for bad reasons, like pedophiles.

LittleCinders

LittleCinders

I'm lost
January 2007

MAY 12, 2007 01:24 AM

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