vegans/vegetarians?

right now im vegetarian, but ill go vegan when i get in a situation that allows me to more easily(i.e. i move back to california where the supermarkets acually have good vegan food).

so who else like veggies and doesnt like the taste of death?

I've been a vegetarian for 18 years, ever since i was old enough to be classed as an 'adult' and decide for myself. I will never go back to eating meat - the thought of it sickens me.
I could never become a vegan though, coz theres so much of my favourite stuff i'd miss out on. But i greatly admire and look up to Vegans for what they're doing.

I have been vegaterian for several years and almost vegan...its hard when your busy cause you got to read labels sclosely...but I am also a chef and hope to some day soon open my own restraunt serving veg and vegan food only so expect all of you to stop in...

me. it's tough though.

I've never liked the taste of red meat or pork, and I don't like chicken or turkey much either. I've never tasted steak in my life (my mom wasn't much of a cook when I was a kid). Sometimes I'll eat chicken and fish, but I'm mostly a fruit-and-veggies eater. Dairy doesn't bother me, though.

Every family-oriented holiday, one of my drunk uncles will always say "SO, when are you gonna be a real person and eat some of this deer meat?" "Still not eating real food?" etc, etc.

you should join the veggie group.

I've been veggie for 12 years now. I still like the smell of meat cooking and have little doubt I could go back to my bloodthirsty ways with little difficulty.

Mmmm.... death.

i only wrote that in hopes of getting a rise out of someone but it didnt seem to work

i acually also used to enjoy the taste of death. but i feel that the moral thing to do is not eat meat.

that's exactly how i am, minus the personal taste aspect. i love the taste, however, i just cannot being myself to accept the action.

I have no problem with people being Vegan/Vegetarian. I think more people should. It is by far a healthier lifestyle. But I can't stand when a vegan/vegetarian tries to take a moral highground. Meat is murder...blah blah blah. Shut the fuck up. Seriously.

Vegetables are living organisms too. Plenty of animals die harvesting them as well. You aren't so special after all.

Keep your moral justifications to yourself.

Reminds me of the Denis Leary quote:
"Beef tastes like murder and murder tastes pretty fucking good."

I'd probably eat soylent green if it tasted right.

I wish I could be vegetarian. For now, I'm everythingatarian.

I've considered going vegetarian for quite a while, for health reasons- I could stand to lose a few pounds, and besides, I really don't trust what gets into meat.

I don't really care about the moral aspect of it myself, though I can certainly understand it. Unless I was taking a bite out of a live animal (which I can't in good conscience recommend), it doesn't really occur to me that it used to be alive.

I know what you mean... I didn't eat meat for almost 10 years, and then when I started eating chicken and fish again, I put on an inordinate amount of weight without increasing caloric intake.. which made me wonder about what goes into chicken! I mean, they tell you that the hormones they put in food animals don't affect humans... but HOW DO WE KNOW?!? I mean, I was reading a medical document the other night about men who'd started lactating after eating hormone-laden chicken and beef. What the hell!?! Where are the long-term studies?

On a personal level, I know that when I've been eating a lot of chicken and drinking a lot of milk over the course of a month, my PMS gets worse, and I get worse cramps at "that time of the month." *shrug*

I was a vegan for well over a decade. I gave it up, hovever, to become a tender carnivore. Years ago I was working on a grizzly bear project with the Nuxulk native tribe in coastal British Columbia. Once the beaar project was finished, the Nuxulk invited the crew and I to participate in a ceremony to welcome the spring salmon, a staple of the Nuxulk subsistence life. The festival culminated in the ritual of eating the salmon. When the fish was offered to me, I passed, explaining my philosophy as a vegan. After I gave my speech, an elder woman approached, telling me that she respected my position, but added that I had no right to claim moral high ground for in the eyes of the Nuxulk, the salmon berry was as alive as the salmon fish. In her mind, eating these things, from the land, allows humans to become closer to earth for when we eat, the flesh of the earth is building the flesh of our bodies. When we die, she explained, our bodies will in turn feed the land. This made sense so I ate the fish. When I did, I felt my body was screaming "THANK YOU!"
Soon thereafter I began hunting which, for me, is a means of taking direct responsibility for that which sustains me. I am not relying on tofu trucked using petro, nor am I participating in the horrific process of converting wildlands (once home for various ungulates and their predators) into domesticated agricultural fields in order to eat. The blood is literally on my hands and it is an incredibly serious thing for me.

Incidentally, I do not buy meat from a store or eat at fast food resurants. If I eat it, generally, I have taken its life or someone I know has. If there is no meat to be had (this is rare in Alaska) I eat vegetables, but I still acknowledge that either way, I am participating in the killing of other life in order to sustain my own.

I do not see how a malted milk ball could cause you to leave vegetarianism.

Hmmm... I wonder if people would leave Scientology for a Whopper.

i do feel like i am a more moral person because i dont eat meat. ill never come up to you while you are eating a hamburger and harass you or anything, but i do have the right to my own opinion of morality.

you tell us to "shut the fuck up". you shut the fuck up on my vegetarian thread. if you dont like our "moral highground" you shouldnt have clicked it.

and yes, plants are living oragnisms, but we have to survive, we have to eat SOMETHING. i choose to eat the living oraganism that doesnt have a brain or the ability to feel pain.

so yes, i do feel like i am more moral than you. but im not quite as moral as a vegan.

i have been a vegetarian for a couple years now and my brother just recently became a vegetarian i came back form maine and i found out and was so happy.

So some of you do claim moral high ground for your preferred diet. As I mentioned above, I was a vegan for some 13 years so I certainly understand. I wont venture to say whether plants feel pain or not. Some of the natives I live around would certainly venture to say they do indeed feel pain. To me, that's not the point for I accept that in order for me to live, something will die, whether that be plant or animal. But the issue that troubles me is the self righteousness. Again, you might want to keep your moral superiortiy in check for even as a vegetarian/vegan you are participating in a host of questionable activities (once more, displacement of wildlife and destruction of habitat for agricultural lands, the use of gasoline to truck agriculural products to your nearest food coop, plastic packaging, etc.). Just some things to think about...

Claiming moral superiority in any way is bullshit, in my not-so-humble opinion.

I'm all about the personal choice and the situational ethics. You can believe you're right about something and have every right to attempt to convert other people to your opinion, but "moral superiority" is a self-righteous bullshit attitude to have about anything.