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Albastra

Albastra

Pittsburg, CA
November 2006

APR 10, 2007 02:12 PM


DUI, is listed just as that, Driving Under the Influence. I'd imagine that if you actually went through records, you'd find drivers under the influence of marijuana that fucked up. The reason you always hear about Alcohol is because it's the most common medium for the issuance of a DUI.

Do NOT sit here and argue with me that people high on pot are able to operate machinery safely. It's dumb argument. You're fucked up on anything, don't drive, plain and simple.



(FYI.You said it "the most common." Which was EXACTLY my point.)
I don't see any sentence that I typed which states that it is safe to drive under the influence of pot. I simply stated that people don't "hear" about driving accidents under the influence of pot as often as alcohol, it is a subject for you to "think" about, which might be beyond your capacity, apparently.

Did you really just compare water to pot?


No. I compared the abuse of water to any other kind of abuse as harmful. I can't say it simpler then this: ABUSE IS BAD. I feel like I'm typing to a 3 year old. It was a pretty simple sentence, but I guess not simple enough for you. I was simply stating that ABUSE is bad.


And you might want tor re-state the fact that alcohol is more harmful than the harmful affects of marijuana, because if you think you're not doing anything to your body by ingesting a foreign substance into it, you're just plain wrong.



I don't see any of my statements that say pot is good, only that is it not "as" bad as alcohol, by comparison. The whole point of the paragraph I wrote was that alcohol is harmful to the body and LEGAL. Your inability to read simple sentences is quite irritating, much like your habit of stating that I said things I did not.

So what's the difference between extreme abuse and mild abuse? even moderate abuse? If i moderately abuse pot am i as healthy and coherent that someone that doesn't use pot at all? Abuse is abuse, plain and simple. If you use something once a month that is harmful to you or use it seven times a day, it's still abuse, plain and simple.



Sigh. I am not sure how much simpler I can put it, you obviously lack the mental capacity to understand simple sentences. I was making a reference to the SonOfAPunk's entries. This is why I start my whole comment with a reference to his thread. He kept on going on and on about people who spend a grand a week on pot.

So are you saying that you realize you're making your own mistake and you want the government to let you do that? Because the way i read that, you just openly admitted that you KNOW your making a mistake, but don't think the government should regulate that. I also read that you think Marijuana is "whats best for you?"



Lol. Maybe you need reading lessons because THOSE words never came out of my keyboard.

And just out of curiosity, i'd LOVE to see someone post the BENEFITS of habitual use of using marijuana beyond pain relief. What does it do for you that benefits your systems? So far all i have seen is a bunch of addicts justifying their addictions to marijuana by saying it relieves pain.



And I would love to see you post the benefits of drinking alcohol.

Oh and there isn't any physical addictions, but you can't sit here and tell me that habitual users don't have any mental addictions to marijuana, i won't believe it.



Again where did I ever said that? You just like to put words in my mouth, don%u2019t you? And it does have a low physical addiction and mental addiction, which I know, because I'm not the 12 year old you seem to think I am.

I am ALL about letting people live their life the way they choose, i really don't care if you smoke pot or not, but don't sit here and put icing on the cake and say that it's not hurting you in any way, it's a joke. The instant you spark up the bowl and inhale anything smoke wise into your system, you've changed something.



Again and again WHERE do I say that pot doesn%u2019t hurt you in any way?

The argument that "Pot isn't AS BAD as Alcohol" amuses me. They're BOTH bad for you. It's just self righteous to think that if you use marijuana your not doing any harm to yourself at all.




Exactly! The point is that pot is not %u201Cas bad%u201D as alcohol NOT that pot is not bad at all and it%u2019s the best thing ever and it does nothing but good things to your body. *rolls eyes* The only reason I am comparing them in the first place is because alcohol is legal.

So, sit down and drink a nice cup of STFU. Kthxbi.

Albastra

Albastra

Pittsburg, CA
November 2006

APR 10, 2007 02:25 PM

Albastra said:

DUI, is listed just as that, Driving Under the Influence. I'd imagine that if you actually went through records, you'd find drivers under the influence of marijuana that fucked up. The reason you always hear about Alcohol is because it's the most common medium for the issuance of a DUI.

Do NOT sit here and argue with me that people high on pot are able to operate machinery safely. It's dumb argument. You're fucked up on anything, don't drive, plain and simple.



(FYI.You said it "the most common." Which was EXACTLY my point.)
I don't see any sentence that I typed which states that it is safe to drive under the influence of pot. I simply stated that people don't "hear" about driving accidents under the influence of pot as often as alcohol, it is a subject for you to "think" about, which might be beyond your capacity, apparently.

Did you really just compare water to pot?


No. I compared the abuse of water to any other kind of abuse as harmful. I can't say it simpler then this: ABUSE IS BAD. I feel like I'm typing to a 3 year old. It was a pretty simple sentence, but I guess not simple enough for you. I was simply stating that ABUSE is bad.


And you might want tor re-state the fact that alcohol is more harmful than the harmful affects of marijuana, because if you think you're not doing anything to your body by ingesting a foreign substance into it, you're just plain wrong.



I don't see any of my statements that say pot is good, only that is it not "as" bad as alcohol, by comparison. The whole point of the paragraph I wrote was that alcohol is harmful to the body and LEGAL. Your inability to read simple sentences is quite irritating, much like your habit of stating that I said things I did not.

So what's the difference between extreme abuse and mild abuse? even moderate abuse? If i moderately abuse pot am i as healthy and coherent that someone that doesn't use pot at all? Abuse is abuse, plain and simple. If you use something once a month that is harmful to you or use it seven times a day, it's still abuse, plain and simple.



Sigh. I am not sure how much simpler I can put it, you obviously lack the mental capacity to understand simple sentences. I was making a reference to the SonOfAPunk's entries. This is why I start my whole comment with a reference to his thread. He kept on going on and on about people who spend a grand a week on pot.

So are you saying that you realize you're making your own mistake and you want the government to let you do that? Because the way i read that, you just openly admitted that you KNOW your making a mistake, but don't think the government should regulate that. I also read that you think Marijuana is "whats best for you?"



Lol. Maybe you need reading lessons because THOSE words never came out of my keyboard.

And just out of curiosity, i'd LOVE to see someone post the BENEFITS of habitual use of using marijuana beyond pain relief. What does it do for you that benefits your systems? So far all i have seen is a bunch of addicts justifying their addictions to marijuana by saying it relieves pain.



And I would love to see you post the benefits of drinking alcohol.

Oh and there isn't any physical addictions, but you can't sit here and tell me that habitual users don't have any mental addictions to marijuana, i won't believe it.



Again where did I ever said that? You just like to put words in my mouth, don't you? And it does have a low physical addiction and mental addiction, which I know, because I'm not the 12 year old you seem to think I am.

I am ALL about letting people live their life the way they choose, i really don't care if you smoke pot or not, but don't sit here and put icing on the cake and say that it's not hurting you in any way, it's a joke. The instant you spark up the bowl and inhale anything smoke wise into your system, you've changed something.



Again and again WHERE do I say that pot doesn't hurt you in any way?

The argument that "Pot isn't AS BAD as Alcohol" amuses me. They're BOTH bad for you. It's just self righteous to think that if you use marijuana your not doing any harm to yourself at all.




Exactly! The point is that pot is not "as bad" as alcohol NOT that pot is not bad at all and it's the best thing ever and it does nothing but good things to your body. *rolls eyes* The only reason I am comparing them in the first place is because alcohol is legal.

So sit down and drink a nice cup of STFU. Kthxbi.

Albastra

Albastra

Pittsburg, CA
November 2006

APR 10, 2007 04:44 PM

Sigh. I can't believe it got posted twice, asi if it wasn't frustrating enough that it took an hour to post, in the first place.

Gringo

Gringo

Spokane, WA
May 2006

APR 10, 2007 04:47 PM

Albastra said:
Sigh. I can't believe it got posted twice, asi if it wasn't frustrating enough that it took an hour to post, in the first place.


Lag is more abusive than drugs at times. surreal

It's OK....it read better the second time.

Domo_Kun

Domo_Kun

Rockford, IL
March 2005

APR 11, 2007 02:09 AM

Wait... Ecstasy is less harmful than pot?

I'm definetly throwing that in my friend Mike's face when he gives me shit for rolling occasionally.

/If I were to choose between driving under the influence of pot, X, or booze, I'd pick X first, then pot, then booze.
//X doesn't affect your ability to drive. It just shortens your attention sp... Ooh, pretty.

apesamongus

apesamongus

Atlanta, GA
July 2002

APR 11, 2007 02:52 AM

Some people in this thread seem confused by words like "more" and "less". Just a little help for those people - words like those are used for comparisons BETWEEN two things.

jameaterblues

jameaterblues

Vacaville, CA
September 2006

APR 11, 2007 11:52 AM

just because one is higher or lower on some list doesn't mean one or the other is somehow better or healthier for your body. they're ALL fucking bad! that's why there on the list in the first place!

Tallboy66

Tallboy66

Chicago, IL
January 2005

APR 11, 2007 12:23 PM

OK I'm going to rehab to quit drinking and then start doing speed.

Imagine how much I can get done. Go speed racer go!

Tallboy66

Tallboy66

Chicago, IL
January 2005

APR 11, 2007 12:32 PM

jameaterblues said:
just because one is higher or lower on some list doesn't mean one or the other is somehow better or healthier for your body. they're ALL fucking bad! that's why there on the list in the first place!



In research published Friday in The Lancet magazine, Professor David Nutt of Britain's Bristol University and colleagues proposed a new framework for the classification of harmful substances, based on the actual risks posed to society.

Yeah but the risks to SOCIETY are what it's based on.

joshbob777

joshbob777

Ypsilanti, MI
July 2005

APR 11, 2007 12:36 PM

I'm a drunk and wish pot was legal so I'd have something better to do. frown

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

APR 11, 2007 12:59 PM

jameaterblues said:
just because one is higher or lower on some list doesn't mean one or the other is somehow better or healthier for your body. they're ALL fucking bad! that's why there on the list in the first place!



That's the point i was trying to make.

To justify pot usage by saying that it's NOT as bad as alcohol is just a piss poor argument. I don't drink anymore and I on very rare occasion use pot.

I know that neither of them are good for me. But i am not going to try to defend using one because the other is legal. I also smoke cigarettes and drink coffee like they are going to take them away from me tomorrow. And technically those are even worse for you than pot or alcohol

I mostly get a kick out of the people that don't ever reply to any other topic on the boards, and then once you mention marijuana, they magically post that "POT ISN'T AS BAD AS ALCOHOL" and then disappear back into oblivion.


Exactly! The point is that pot is not "as bad" as alcohol NOT that pot is not bad at all and it's the best thing ever and it does nothing but good things to your body. *rolls eyes* The only reason I am comparing them in the first place is because alcohol is legal.



You're basic train of thought here is that Pot should be legal because it's not AS BAD for you as Alcohol. So in essence, shouldn't alcohol be illegal because it's worse for you than pot?

What i was trying to get at before you jumped on your childlike rampage and stamped your feet, about how i read everything wrong, and thew out a series of insults rather than try to explain your case like an adult, was that, you're justifying using something you KNOW is bad for you. I don't understand that logic.

If you can't explain yourself without lowering yourself to name calling and attempting to sabotage my intelligence, stay the fuck out of the conversation, it makes you look like an immature little brat who isn't getting her way.

Stuff that STFU in your bowl and smoke it.

Tallboy66

Tallboy66

Chicago, IL
January 2005

APR 11, 2007 01:00 PM

joshbob777 said:
I'm a drunk and wish pot was legal so I'd have something better to do. frown



Move to Ann Arbor.

Albastra

Albastra

Pittsburg, CA
November 2006

APR 11, 2007 05:22 PM

BrokenandHostile, you posted a reply to my post, which had NOTHING to do with you in the first place. YOU took four of my sentences and went on a half a page long criticism and dissection of every word and every interpretation you had for it which was highly annoying to say the least. All I did was reply to your arguments and I did so in the calmest way I could and I wasn't in the best mood.

You say that I should

stay the fuck out of the conversation

as if you own the website. You also say that people who make the argument I have

magically post that "POT ISN'T AS BAD AS ALCOHOL" and then disappear back into oblivion

which is obviously not true. I am left only to wonder what YOU have been smoking.

I don't smoke pot, for your information, or cigarettes, or drink coffee or alcohol, not that it matters. You seem to think you're dealing with someone that smokes pot. I do believe that if pot is illegal then alcohol, cigarettes and coffee should be also, they are drugs as well and they are detrimental to your health, some more so the pot is (there's that thing that you admit but hate).

If you actually READ what I typed for once in this thread then you MIGHT notice I didn't call you names I just hinted very strongly. Here is an example of a name I did NOT call you: "immature little brat."

"I also smoke cigarettes and drink coffee like they are going to take them away from me tomorrow. And technically those are even worse for you than pot or alcohol"
No? Really? Those words kind of sound like MY point, a little. Hmm. I guess we agree.

Also, the BEST part of what you said is

Stuff that STFU in your bowl and smoke it.

Congratulations. You managed to call me immature for saying something, then turn around and say the same thing.

But hey, I know I was being mean. I was angry and upset and took it out on you, which was not the most mature or nice thing I could have done. I apologize for typing to you like you were an annoying teenager that needs to be put back in his place. I was out of line. But I had fun! I hope you did too. Haha.

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

APR 11, 2007 06:07 PM

Albastra said:
alot of stuff



It's probably my fault anyway. I try to stay out of threads that deal with anything that have to do with drugs. I've made some serious mistakes in my life, i've lost friends that i will never get back, some died, some just won't talk to me because of what i was doing when i was high. I can't blame them.

I just get highly irritated when people try to defend pot like it isn't that big of a deal. I've watched it destroy dreams first hand, and it's painful to watch naive people repeat a history i am all too familiar with.


Ilfirin

Ilfirin

Netherlands
January 2007

APR 11, 2007 06:24 PM

Hence the reason why canabis is legal here in the Netherlands

Snowy

Snowy

United Kingdom
February 2007

APR 13, 2007 03:54 AM

Freakin' drink in moderation.
Don't drink and drive.
Don't drink too often!
It's so fucking simple.

I hate people who drink all the time, or drink and drive, or smoke weed too often or smoke weed and drive.
I hate it.

I don't know anyone who takes harder drugs so peh!

edith

edith

France
April 2006

APR 13, 2007 09:00 AM

i think the scariest drug of all is meth. if i was to be caught in a deserted alleyway by someone who has been on a binge for a week and wanted to rob me i would pick anyone on any other drug over a meth addict.


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SexyBeast

SexyBeast

Covington, LA
July 2004

APR 13, 2007 11:44 AM

Matthew_O said:

SexyBeast said:


My wife's father went to the hospital Saturday, mainly because he's crazy and thought he was having a heart attack. The nurse asked if he drinks, how much he drinks, and how long he's been drinking.

Yes.
Atleast six cans of beer.
50 years.

They let him out of the hospital the next day, he's just a hypochondriac. He's as healthy as any 63 year old, who's never taken care of himself. The man drinks more than six cans of beer a day, probably double that atleast for the five years that I've known him.

So yeah alchohol can be just as harmless as marijuanna, in moderation.



Thats a little biased opinion, don't ya think? I mean, one man cannot represent an entire population of people who drink in moderation. Marijuana on the other hand has never had one death in it's 500+ years of use.



That was one example of a guy, but I've known quite a few more, including both my grandpas. One died of a heart attack and the other, I think, actually quit drinking, but he was already old and him stopping had nothing to do with how his health was because of alcohol. I'm sure my father's still drinks a lot and, other than cancer a few years ago, I think he's doing fine.

... I grew up in and around New Orleans, almost everyone I know drank a lot. Just like any drug, including things like tylenol, too much is bad.

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