NEWS: Harvard Kids Don't Put Out

CULTURE: Harvard Kids Don't Put Out

Or some of them don't, anyway. And despite the fact that a great deal of people decide to remain abstinent for a great many reasons, there are always those few fun folks who for some reason feel the need to tell you "hey, it's OK not to get laid." Solid, man. Thanks for the tip.

I don't know about you, but I've never met a college student ever that didn't take sex very, very seriously. That said, I can sort of appreciate some of their points. I mean, who wants something on campus like a skeevy student-run magazine that depicts hot, brainy coeds with and without their pocket-protectors (not to mention the rest of their clothes!)? Not For Me!



All kidding aside, I could sort of get behind what they're doing even if I would have wanted no part of it whatsoever at any stage of my life, let alone that one. The True Love Revolution (or "TLR" as the kids call it) is a secular organization, so it's not like they're using religious guilt to fuel their membership. Absent that, they're just a bunch of crazy kids that like to get together and talk about not fucking eachother. What could be wrong with that? Whatever blows your skirt up. Or, in this case… doesn't. Vive la Revolution de L'amour Vraiment!*



That's what I thought anyway, until I got to this part of the article:

Yep. Harvard fails to promote abstinence by requiring incoming freshmen to go through date-rape seminars. I suppose the TLR kids would prefer a woman about to be date-raped to ask her assailant if he'd considered giving up sex altogether and then invite him to an ice-cream social. I'm sure that would work much better. And how dare they provide students with condoms?! You know what condoms are good for? Sex! That's what! And they serve absolutely no other purpose than to encourage attractive, nubile young adults to hit them skins. None whatsoever.



Let this be a lesson to you, then: The idiots are everywhere, and they're taking over. Even at Harvard.



*Writer's Note: I took four years of French in high school and I have no idea if this is correct. I'm pretty sure it's a rough approximation of the literal translation, but I'm probably wrong. Regardless, Mme Garmus would be so, so disappointed in me. I preemptively apologize to her and the entire French-speaking world.**

**Except Quebec. Fuck those guys.

well, you DO know that any mention of anything vaguely sex related is people trying to push kids into wild fornication, right? this mode of thinking seems to apply across the board to activities not endorsed by the straightlaced sector, such as drug use, sex, 'subversive' literature, etc. a mention is an endorsement, and an endorsement is as good as force. yucky...

Sorry.. did you say fuck Quebec?

Don't make me come down there.

With poutine we shall conquer thee Subrosa.

Has anybody noticed that the "save sex for marriage" crowd is also the crowd that's getting married way too early for all the wrong reasons (maybe to finally have sex? just a thought), then having kids, then skipping college because they can't afford it, then divorcing, then living a miserable life?

I'm just saying.

Also, an afterthought. A seminar on date rape shouldn't include any mention of abstinence because a date rape seminar isn't about sex: it's about rape. That's about the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. Say what you want about sex and whether or not it's a good idea to wait, that's fine. But the fact of the matter is that women get raped and talking about abstinence wouldn't do a fucking thing to prevent it. If you want to prevent guys from raping girls, tell them why rape is wrong, not why sex is wrong. Either the rapist has already made up his mind about the sex thing (ie, I want it right fucking now), or he's so pent up from WAITING that he takes advantage of someone. Fucking idiots.

Misrepresenting a quote that you included verbatim in the previous paragraph... is that one of those new school debate tactics that's all the rage with the kids these days?

Wait, where's all this sex my college is making me have? I think I'd remember it if I were getting laid here.

I say shame on those who think sex is such a given that they suggest others willingly give it up! Shame...

No, actually. I haven't.

Well, no. I mean what is the point of mentioning "hey you don't have to fuck" in a seminar about rape? It seems to me that once we've gotten to the rape issue the whole "maybe I shouldn't be having sex?" question is by definition out of your control.

I suppose you're speaking more of the effect on the possible rapist, and to that I'll grant you have a point. Though that wasn't the impression I got from the piece nor do I think there would be any effect whatsoever to mention to a potential rapist that it's cool not to get laid.

I knew there was a reason I didn't go to Harvard.

I've seen it sometimes. Back in high school, mainly. I mean, there is something to that. Hell, my dad does it and he's 56.

Most people at university have sex, which, hell good for them right? I'm not having it and that's my choice.

You have to be an adult to leave home and go to higher education in England, but maybe that's not the case in America?

Or do American adults not have the brains to make their own choices? Perhaps in that case it's a good thing they're being put off breeding.

I've seen the ones that had sex in high school do the same thing, though.

People here generally go to college when they're 18 (some earlier, quite a few later). They're legally adults - whether they behave that way is a different story.

Anyway, it's a good thing these people didn't go to my college. I'm pretty sure they would have gotten their panties in a bunch over the safe-sex lecture given by a woman wearing an outfit made out of condom wrappers and dental dams. (HOT!)

Can we get back to that part where having a date rape seminar encourages sex? That's the part I'm stuck on. I mean, usually I understand people's arguments, but just think they're stupid, but I can't even grasp this one on a basic level.

If a geek can't get laid at Harvard, what hope do I have?

i say good for them. i think it's great that there are still people out there that want to have sex with someone they care about.
(i do think that being against condoms distribution and date rape seminars is ridiculous, though.)

Oh, of course. That's absolutely true. And getting married so you can have sex is no worse a reason than getting married so you can have somewhere to live or so your kid isn't born out of wedlock.

Well without a link to a source its hard to tell. But rest assured, they probably think differently than you and I, and they deserve to be mocked for it.

If you have a roving rapist grabbing girls off the street and forcing themselves on them, I'd buy your point. But a lot of the prevention in date rape lies in not putting oneself into a dangerous situation. If a person isn't sure about having sex with this other person, maybe they should consider not getting themself into a situation that, even if they are comfortable with it at that point, could put them in danger. Date rape is often "we were fooling around in bed and he went to far and I said no and he didn't listen". It's a matter of considering, in advance, where you stand on having sex and taking precautions not to jeopardize yourself.

I think the problem they have isn't so much that it promotes sex, but that it doesn't promote abstinence as a preventive measure.

révolution d'amour vrai?

Oh my God, how embarassing. I was sure I'd included a link in the original story, but I don't know what happened. My apologies.

I see your point, but I'm sorry I have to take issue with this. I know it's a very fine line between the ideas of not putting yourself in dangerous situations and blaming the victim, but I think you might be unintentionally veering a bit too far over to the other side. There's absolutely no way of telling which situations are safe and which situations are not, and telling people that maybe they should consider not getting themselves into that situation is a tough sell. After all, they're not telling people not to date (clearly, on account that the founders are in fact dating), they're telling people not to go all the way. The only way to truly prevent "date rape" is to not be social at all.

Again, I see what you're getting at, but rape is almost never about where you stand on having sex.

More embarassment: That link leads to a SG error message.