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MetaTag

United Kingdom

September 2002

MAR 25, 2007 05:14 PM

You are right to distrust what's said on TV, especially that which promotes detox diets.

People have been "detoxing" for thousands of years, but the scientists say there is no proof that such bodily purges work.

And they say most modern books and detox kits serve up "empty promises".

...

"The suggestion that elimination of noxious agents is enhanced because of this regimen is categorically unsubstantiated and runs counter to our understanding about human physiology and biochemistry."

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Chainlink

Key West, FL

August 2005

MAR 25, 2007 07:15 PM

MetaTag said:
You are right to distrust what's said on TV, especially that which promotes detox diets.

People have been "detoxing" for thousands of years, but the scientists say there is no proof that such bodily purges work.

And they say most modern books and detox kits serve up "empty promises".

...

"The suggestion that elimination of noxious agents is enhanced because of this regimen is categorically unsubstantiated and runs counter to our understanding about human physiology and biochemistry."

Source

Thats so funny. I just was looking at another holistic medicine scam the " ear candles" and one of the things that tipped me off on the packaging was thier claim of the medical establishment only having 60 years of experience but natural healing has tousands of years of experience.

Tritone

Saint Paul, MN

May 2004

MAR 25, 2007 08:09 PM

I knew a guy who occaisionally fasted for detox who claimed that the zits he got while doing so were evidence of his body purging toxins. Much respect to him, but I sorta figure they were just the evidence of his immune system being compromised from the lack of nutrition.

MrGinger

San Rafael, CA

November 2003

MAR 26, 2007 09:44 AM

Thanks for the input.
Here are some other suggestions that I've heard:
-a 1 month alkalinizing deep colon and tissue cleanse called Arise & Shine
-psyllium husk
-raw foods and juicing

anything involving the words "deep colon" is a little scary to me,
psyllium husk?
raw foods will be incorporated

apesamongus

Atlanta, GA

July 2002

MAR 26, 2007 10:16 AM

d20 said:

Cash said:
Detoxification is a scam....and Quackwatch.com is your friend.

It can be terrifying to believe that one's body is being poisoned by toxins from within. But if this were true, the human race would not have survived, says Vincent F. Cordaro, M.D., an FDA medical officer. "A person who retained wastes and toxins would be very ill and could die if not treated. The whole concept is irrational and unscientific."

that's kind of missing the point of detox. of course your body can get rid of toxins and level itself off over time -- the idea is to ditch them faster and in a way that's less work/stress for your body.

That might be a point if removing toxins from the body were actual work, and not just the normal functioning of the body. It's no more work than taking a leak.

DrStinkypants

Saint Paul, MN

October 2002

MAR 26, 2007 12:24 PM

MrStitches said:

d20 said:

Cash said:
Detoxification is a scam....and Quackwatch.com is your friend.

It can be terrifying to believe that one's body is being poisoned by toxins from within. But if this were true, the human race would not have survived, says Vincent F. Cordaro, M.D., an FDA medical officer. "A person who retained wastes and toxins would be very ill and could die if not treated. The whole concept is irrational and unscientific."

that's kind of missing the point of detox. of course your body can get rid of toxins and level itself off over time -- the idea is to ditch them faster and in a way that's less work/stress for your body.

Yeah, that's the idea. But the idea is nonsense. See, you've got this organ in your body called a liver. Its job is to detoxify your body. If there's stuff in your body that your liver can't handle in relatively quickly, you've got bigger problems than pseudo-scientific holistic medicine can deal with.

I don't. I had my liver replaced with a lemon.

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Tritone

Saint Paul, MN

May 2004

MAR 26, 2007 01:55 PM

DrStinkypants said:

MrStitches said:

d20 said:

Cash said:
Detoxification is a scam....and Quackwatch.com is your friend.

It can be terrifying to believe that one's body is being poisoned by toxins from within. But if this were true, the human race would not have survived, says Vincent F. Cordaro, M.D., an FDA medical officer. "A person who retained wastes and toxins would be very ill and could die if not treated. The whole concept is irrational and unscientific."

that's kind of missing the point of detox. of course your body can get rid of toxins and level itself off over time -- the idea is to ditch them faster and in a way that's less work/stress for your body.

Yeah, that's the idea. But the idea is nonsense. See, you've got this organ in your body called a liver. Its job is to detoxify your body. If there's stuff in your body that your liver can't handle in relatively quickly, you've got bigger problems than pseudo-scientific holistic medicine can deal with.

I don't. I had my liver replaced with a lemon.

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Yeah, about that... I sorta stole your liver to do tequila shots.

MetaTag

United Kingdom

September 2002

MAR 26, 2007 04:31 PM

MrGinger said:
-a 1 month alkalinizing deep colon and tissue cleanse called Arise & Shine

That sounds like a line from American Psyco.

Cash

USA

OLD SKOOL

MAR 26, 2007 06:25 PM

MrGinger said:
-a 1 month alkalinizing deep colon and tissue cleanse called Arise & Shine

Colon Cleanse?

SnakePlissken

Corvallis, OR

December 2002

MAR 26, 2007 06:34 PM

I put my trust in Colon Blow.

pygmy

Portland, OR

July 2004

MAR 26, 2007 06:45 PM

you will get a more helpful response from this group

Gringo

Spokane, WA

May 2006

MAR 26, 2007 06:51 PM

chainlink said:
Thats so funny. I just was looking at another holistic medicine scam the " ear candles" and one of the things that tipped me off on the packaging was thier claim of the medical establishment only having 60 years of experience but natural healing has tousands of years of experience.

Yeah, my girlfriend keeps insisting that she needs that ear candle bullshit for her son. I try to point out the purpose of ear wax and how it naturally cleans and protects the canal but...apparently some of his classmates have that done by their parents too so that means it must be a good idea.

Whadya gonna do? Some people are allergic to logic.

Shal

Los Angeles, CA

October 2002

MAR 26, 2007 06:56 PM

TheGringo said:

chainlink said:
Thats so funny. I just was looking at another holistic medicine scam the " ear candles" and one of the things that tipped me off on the packaging was thier claim of the medical establishment only having 60 years of experience but natural healing has tousands of years of experience.

Yeah, my girlfriend keeps insisting that she needs that ear candle bullshit for her son. I try to point out the purpose of ear wax and how it naturally cleans and protects the canal but...apparently some of his classmates have that done by their parents too so that means it must be a good idea.

Whadya gonna do? Some people are allergic to logic.

For those who aren't allergic to logic:

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/candling.html

Cash

USA

OLD SKOOL

MAR 26, 2007 07:00 PM

TheGringo said:
I try to point out the purpose of ear wax and how it naturally cleans and protects the canal but....

My primary care doctor went so far as to tell me not to even use Q-tips. His exact words were "Your body will get rid of it when it is supposed to".

I mean...I still wash my ears...but I don't go digging into my eardrums anymore.

Roethke

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

MAR 26, 2007 07:06 PM

TheGringo said:

chainlink said:
Thats so funny. I just was looking at another holistic medicine scam the " ear candles" and one of the things that tipped me off on the packaging was thier claim of the medical establishment only having 60 years of experience but natural healing has tousands of years of experience.

Yeah, my girlfriend keeps insisting that she needs that ear candle bullshit for her son. I try to point out the purpose of ear wax and how it naturally cleans and protects the canal but...apparently some of his classmates have that done by their parents too so that means it must be a good idea.

Whadya gonna do? Some people are allergic to logic.

Ear candling is a hoax, or the product of naiete. It doens't remove wax from the ear canal, so your girlfriend and her children can use them to her heart's content, and it won't make any more than a placebo's difference.

I'm not anti alternative medicine, I'm just anti completely unfounded claims about the benefits of doing something often silly.

apesamongus

Atlanta, GA

July 2002

MAR 26, 2007 07:15 PM

Cash said:

TheGringo said:
I try to point out the purpose of ear wax and how it naturally cleans and protects the canal but....

My primary care doctor went so far as to tell me not to even use Q-tips. His exact words were "Your body will get rid of it when it is supposed to".

I mean...I still wash my ears...but I don't go digging into my eardrums anymore.

I know that's true, but it just feels so good to do it. Next thing you'll tell me is that I shouldn't pick my nose.

Gringo

Spokane, WA

May 2006

MAR 26, 2007 07:26 PM

You should only pick your nose whilst sitting in traffic or in a job interview.

Oh, and on first dates.

On a serious note, the only time I pick/clean the inside of my ear (this is gross, I know) is with my finger tip once the wax works it's way to the um.......ear butt.

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September 2002

MAR 25, 2007 05:14 PM

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MAR 25, 2007 08:09 PM

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November 2003

MAR 26, 2007 09:44 AM

Atlanta, GA

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MAR 26, 2007 10:16 AM

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MAR 26, 2007 12:24 PM

Saint Paul, MN

May 2004

MAR 26, 2007 01:55 PM

United Kingdom

September 2002

MAR 26, 2007 04:31 PM

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OLD SKOOL

MAR 26, 2007 06:25 PM

Corvallis, OR

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MAR 26, 2007 06:34 PM

Portland, OR

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MAR 26, 2007 06:45 PM

Spokane, WA

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MAR 26, 2007 06:51 PM

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Cash

USA

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MAR 26, 2007 07:00 PM

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

MAR 26, 2007 07:06 PM

Atlanta, GA

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MAR 26, 2007 07:15 PM

Spokane, WA

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MAR 26, 2007 07:26 PM