NEWS: Zell Miller: "Breed, Bitches. We Need Cannon Fodder."

CULTURE: Zell Miller: "Breed, Bitches. We Need Cannon Fodder."

Good lord. Listen to this jaw-dropping speech by everyone's favorite nutso politican, Zell Miller:

Translation: killing embryos is bad because we need them to grow up into soldiers we can kill. Also, we want white workers, not those dirty Messicans.

He's right about one thing. Those are some pretty damn offensive things to say.

Bitch_PhD isn't too interested in breeding for the greater glory of the homeland, thanks anyway.

Where do you get the "we want white workers" thing?

I'm from Georgia. We dont claim Zell. We beleive he is senile and most likely has alzheimers.

I think it was implied by the "filling our jobs" and "paying into social security" parts. At least, I would infer something along those lines. But I am a dirty lib... actually I'm moderate. But I still infer what Ms. Bitch was saying.

I think you'll have a hard time finding anyone particularly interested in claiming him at this point.

Clearly that's impregnable logic.

I do have to agree with Zell about one thing: it would be kind of cool if we could still challenge people to a duel.

i really dislike Zell Miller

huh. Thats quite the turn around for a guy who supported abortion rights and stem cell research when he was in office.

Yeah whats with the "white workers " crap. The guy doesn't have a very defined stance on imigration as far as i've heard. Do you have some reason for saying that or you just like inflamatory hate speech so much you wanted in on it ?

I'm not a fan of the guy, just sayin . . .

I think Dr. Bitch would like to challenge ol 'Zell to one...

Ah thank you, I am just reading up on some of that. I see.

Yeah, I just love inflammatory hate speech.

Look, do we have a shortage of workers in the U.S.? No. No, we do not. Zell is saying we do. In fact, we've got a higher birth rate than most other developed countries--largely because of immigration. The only possible explanation for why Zell thinks "our" birth rate is a problem is that "we" don't include those damn immigrants. You know, the same ones who are taking "our" jobs.

You been drinking again ? Shooting meth or something ?
That just doesn't make much sense.
Nice of you to make up for us " the only possible explanation " though. Thanks for that.

I am so sick of opportunistic scumbags like this guy warping data to fit their own self serving agendas.

"How could this great land of plenty produce too few people in the last 30 years?"

Too few to sustain a system in which a small percentage benefit from the labor of the vast majority, perhaps. If the land is so plenty and we have fewer people living off of it, then why are more and more of the resources going to a smaller and smaller minority?

Last night in my city there were eight kids killed in a fire in a house in which 22 hardworking poor were heating their home with an old, electric space heater. Doesn't seem like underpopulation was at the top of their concerns, huh?
But I'm sure Miller's bummed about the eight less soldiers he'll get to send to the front lines to protect the status quo for fatcats like him.

Furthermore, I don't think any of these cynically righteous, right-to-life loudmouths should be allowed to address the subject until they've each adopted at least ten unwanted kids from the overflowing foster system and provided them with the love and care they say each child deserves.

Actually, Bitch_PhD makes perfect sense. Zell's base here is WASPy and leans toward fundamentalist. The racial inference he makes is almost but not quite explicit. He successfully dances around xenophobia without actually being directly racist (maybe he's not so senile, after all, since that's quite a trick). But there can't be any mistaking the context of his statements.

He says, "If those 45 million children had lived, today they would be defending our country, they would be filling our jobs, they would be paying into Social Security."

The "they" he's talking about are, mostly, the would-have-been children of white Americans since 1973, just by the numbers. By "defending our country", he means there would be a bigger supply of native-born (and mostly white) soldiers; by "filling our jobs", he means a bigger supply of native-born (mostly white) low-income earners; by "paying into Social Security", he means they wouldn't be illegal workers who bypass the Social Security system.

Does anyone really believe that's *not* what he meant? It is certainly possible to infer from his statement that he is religious, conservative, believes that women have a duty to reproduce, and that their children have a duty to die for this country in support of his agenda. That is, in two words, fundamentalist horseshit.

Bitch_PhD is right on the money.

Right on.

The speech is about abortion.

He says "they would be filling our jobs, defending our country..." as in, contributing to the greater good that all people in society contribute to by being a part of it.
He does not say "they would be filling our jobs, defending our country..." as you and Bitch want him to.

Frankly, I don't see the need to put racist-y words into his mouth. His opinions on abortion are more than reprehensible enough for me all on their own.

I can tell that from tv - sometimes I see him on speaking and think it's the Osbournes; he's just wandering and muttering nonsense, cartoonish and surreal

Excuse me while I go throw up.

I agree that Dr Bitch is spot on in pointing out the usual reasoning behind such a position. It's long been a standard of the right wing nationalists that the country in question should swell its numbers by having the right people produce lots of offspring. It goes hand in hand with the concept/fear of "degenerate races/cultures" out breeding their "superiors".

Growing populations are much more able to "defend" their nation around the world, as Mr Miller longs for.

If only they or most people could see the logic behind this statement; I would feel a little better about the world

I'm trying to work out if you joined before Stockula left. Because that description nails Stock, dead on.

I assumed that to mean:

Zell thinks all those babies should have been born so we wouldn't have a problem filling jobs.

If we had such a problem filling jobs that we need unwanted babies, why don't we let Mexican workers fill those jobs.

*and by "we" I mean "the americans"

Judging from what I've seen of comments on Stockula, I'll take that as a compliment. People either really seemed to like Stock or really seemed not to... better than being tepid. Never crossed paths with him, though... ~f~