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PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

MAR 05, 2007 12:03 PM

That's right, it's the time of year when officeworkers everywhere are filling out their brackets, wondering if Cormac McCarthy's The Road has what it takes to beat Pynchons Against The Day or if a Cinderella story, like Colson Whitehead's Apex Hides the Hurt can go all the way.

Yup, The Morning News is hosting its annual Tournament of Books!

Grab your bracket (pdf file) here.

Flux

Flux

SUICIDEGIRL

Georgia, USA

MAR 05, 2007 03:10 PM

I'm putting my money on McCarthy.

PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

MAR 06, 2007 12:55 PM

Flux said:
I'm putting my money on McCarthy.



I think it'll hit at least one judge who will be put off by it.

I'm not sure why, but I think Absurdistan or The Echo Maker will win.

SPOILERS! (Click to view)
Nice to see at least one person who likes books!

Margot_Dent

Margot_Dent

Los Angeles, CA
February 2004

MAR 06, 2007 12:58 PM

uh, books? not for me. that's why i have the internet.



edit: pride of baghdad? awesome.

Flux

Flux

SUICIDEGIRL

Georgia, USA

MAR 06, 2007 01:01 PM

Yeah, I was trying to decide whether or not I was surprised that we are the only two people posting in this thread.

EDIT: And Denticus Rex renders this comment useless!

Margot_Dent

Margot_Dent

Los Angeles, CA
February 2004

MAR 06, 2007 01:13 PM

Flux said:

EDIT: And Denticus Rex renders this comment useless!



eat it, eggheads!




(thinks: hopefully she does not notice that the only book i recognized was a graphic novel)

mydogfarted

mydogfarted

Oakland, NJ
June 2003

MAR 06, 2007 01:13 PM

I don't get it. Books can't play basketball.

PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

MAR 06, 2007 01:24 PM

mydogfarted said:
I don't get it. Books can't play basketball.



I dunno, the new Pynchon is taller than a lot of college point guards.

Kristie

Kristie

Chicago, IL
December 2004

MAR 06, 2007 01:36 PM

I love books! Guess I don't love 'em as much as you kids though. frown

obd

obd

Venice, CA
June 2003

MAR 06, 2007 03:53 PM

Flux said:
Yeah, I was trying to decide whether or not I was surprised that we are the only two people posting in this thread.

EDIT: And Denticus Rex renders this comment useless!



There seem to be other people in this version of the thread.

I've head good things about The Road and I've been meaning to pick up Anansi Boys. The Pynchon is actually on my nightstand now. I haven't actually read any of the books in the field yet. I've been catching up on other reading.

PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

MAR 07, 2007 05:01 AM

obd said:

Flux said:
Yeah, I was trying to decide whether or not I was surprised that we are the only two people posting in this thread.

EDIT: And Denticus Rex renders this comment useless!



There seem to be other people in this version of the thread.


That's from last year. For the life of me, I can't remember which one won.

PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

FEB 28, 2008 10:13 AM

And its back in 2008!!

Nominees
Run by Ann Patchett
On Chesil Beach by Ian McEwan
Tree of Smoke by Denis Johnson
Then We Came to the End by Joshua Ferris
Petropolis by Anya Ulinich
Ovenman by Jeff Parker
The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Díaz
You Don't Love Me Yet by Jonathan Lethem
New England White by Stephen L. Carter
Remainder by Tom McCarthy
The Shadow Catcher by Marianne Wiggins
The Savage Detectives by Roberto Bolaño
Let the Northern Lights Erase Your Name by Vendela Vida
Shining at the Bottom of the Sea by Stephen Marche
What the Dead Know by Laura Lippman
An Arsonist's Guide to Writers' Homes in New England by Brock Clarke

I'm picking Junot Diaz and Denis Johnson as the frontrunners.

Last three winners: David Mitchell's Cloud Atlas, Ali Smith's The Accidental, and Cormac McCarthy's The Road

Link here
I'm sure all the readers here will be psyched! Both of them!!

Flux

Flux

SUICIDEGIRL

Georgia, USA

FEB 28, 2008 10:17 AM

I think you're right on with Díaz.

PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

FEB 28, 2008 10:20 AM

If you're interested in any of the books, the wonderful people at Powell's Books are discounting all of the titles 30%

And, the even-more-wonderful people at Coudal Partners are holding a "Gambling" contest. Place 10$ on your pick, and they'll pick a couple people who get it right to win a really cool prize (a collection of art from their store). Best of all, all the money goes to First Book, a nonprofit organization with a single mission: to give children from low-income families the opportunity to read and own their first new books.

Lemonkid

Lemonkid

Canada
May 2003

FEB 28, 2008 10:20 AM

I don't know who'll win, but if I could choose it would be Roberto Bolaño.

PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

FEB 28, 2008 10:20 AM

My first triple post!

PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

FEB 28, 2008 10:20 AM

Lemonkid and Flux know what's up. Reading is Fun-n-mental!

Hunkpapa

Hunkpapa

United Kingdom
June 2004

FEB 28, 2008 10:34 AM

I've only heard of the ones by Junot Diaz and Vendela Vida, and I haven't read either, though I was tempted by "Let the Northern Lights..." by the title alone. So I'll go for that one to be the winner, in an almost entirely shallow and uninformed way.

Lemonkid

Lemonkid

Canada
May 2003

FEB 28, 2008 10:48 AM

PointBlank said:
Lemonkid and Flux know what's up. Reading is Fun-n-mental!



She's one of the few folks 'round the parts I'd trust with a book recommendation.

I remember once a time of mutual awestruckness we once had in the Powell's rare book room.

AngelDevoid

AngelDevoid

USA
January 2008

FEB 28, 2008 01:02 PM

I'll put a vote in for Denis Johnson, although I have not read his book yet.

Am I the only one that felt that The Road had a tacked on ending?

obd

obd

Venice, CA
June 2003

FEB 28, 2008 05:44 PM

^^you are the only one.

Tree of Smoke, The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao, and The Savage Detectives are on the way. Now I just need to finish Vineland and Supplement to Bougainville's Voyage before they get here.

gdarklighter

gdarklighter

San Diego, CA
August 2005

FEB 28, 2008 07:21 PM

This thread makes me feel like a horrible reader. frown

MisterSatan

MisterSatan

Portland, OR
August 2002

FEB 28, 2008 11:22 PM

I'm just gonna ask the fuckin' obvious question.

Are any of those books any good?

AngelDevoid

AngelDevoid

USA
January 2008

FEB 29, 2008 05:23 AM

obd said:
^^you are the only one.

Tree of Smoke, The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao, and The Savage Detectives are on the way. Now I just need to finish Vineland and Supplement to Bougainville's Voyage before they get here.



This is a REAL spoiler, so please don't click unless you have read The Road.

SPOILERS! (Click to view)
So a man and a woman never introduced or foreshadowed that rescue and shelter the boy, rending moot the worry that the father had for his son is not deus ex machina to you?
The last speech of the father in which he proclaims his son's luck does not either:
1) leave you betrayed at an insincere narrator, or
2) leave you betrayed at an insincere author...

after you have wiped the tears from your eyes of course. The actions of the father work against any belief in the ability of his son to survive without him. If this was the plan of either the narrator or the author, there were ways to foreshadow it. To make it believable by either laying the groundwork for the father's belief, that he already believes, or show outward "effects" of it to allow for a late or deathbed belief.

Finally, I love the choice of letting the son not have to directly disprove him (about being unable to fend for himself), but we also didn't get to hear the father's inner argument against killing the son. It just happened after the fact (after the father was incapacitated).

The style of the book was great. The emotion was powerful. The last few pages were disappointing. I didn't think deus ex machina was the only solution for the son. I didn't expect it from this author and it if it was out of place in any world, it was out of place in a world where people eat each other rather than help each other. That just further pushed it towards the unbelievable.

It could have been believable. It just needed more pages, before and after to work on it.

IMHO.

Uncognitive

Uncognitive

Brooklyn, NY
May 2003

FEB 29, 2008 07:02 AM

Wow, this thread makes me feel semi-literate.

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