NEWS: Is This Horse Fetus Dead Yet? Or Does it Need More Meth?

CULTURE: Is This Horse Fetus Dead Yet? Or Does it Need More Meth?

So, a little more research and, apparently, for most of us, news about meth use during pregnancy.

According to the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration,

That last is what I want to concentrate on. The first question — the substance abuse pattern — is one I hope to address in a later post, but for now I'll simply point out that one of the major problems with *any* understanding of how most illegal drugs affect pregnancy is that, because they're illegal, it's very hard to distinguish between the effects of the drug itself and the effects of any other substances or additives that may have been used in producing or cutting the drug — e.g., antifreeze used in making meth, or quinine used to cut heroin. Moreover, since many (if not most) addicts use more than one drug (including smoking) or get their drugs from different sources, the problem of tracing specific effects to specific drugs only gets more difficult. And finally, the observed effects of drug use during pregnancy — it's important that they're observed, rather than known, since you can't always know the cause of what you see — are surely, in many cases, affected by other factors like the mother's health or nutrition or her local environment: stress, environmental pollutants, and lots of unknown factors mean that non-drug users also have babies with some of these problems.

That said, the apparent risks of meth use while pregnancy — which depend on how often and how much is used, as well as at what stage of pregnancy, mind, so keep in mind that making generalizations about whether or not a given woman's meth use will "cause" these would be a massive overgeneralization — include:

I didn't emphasize the "mays" in that quotation, but I hope you noticed them.

My point here isn't that using meth (or any other drug, including alcohol, tobacco, or prescription medication) is a-ok during pregnancy. Using meth or drinking heavily or smoking isn't a-ok even when you're not pregnant — duh. My point is that simple judgments about drugs' effects on pregnancy aren't supported by the science; even when we know that in general X drug tends to cause Y outcome, that isn't the same thing as saying that this specific user is going to have that specific result. The most one can say is that it puts a user at an elevated risk for that result.

And there are things that we can do to mitigate those risks. Again according to SAMHSA, the critical factor in a child's outcome is not the simple fact of use itself, but the home environment. The consequences of use — or even of a poor home environment — can be mediated if we actually care about the child's well-being more than we do about casting blame on the mother.

One of the most effective solutions to the problem of mothers using meth is formally prioritizing families with children in treatment programs. Meth users, in fact, have:

* the highest "satisfactory" outcome after treatment programs, at 65.6%;
* the highest result for ongoing reunification services between mother and child when a baby that's been removed from the mother (usually after being tested for the presence of a drug at birth--which by the way, isn't done routinely--so there may be babies with meth problems that we don't know about, *and* there may be babies born with meth in their systems who are doing fine) and the mother is offered treatment — rather than incarceration;
* the second shortest amount of separation between mother and baby in these cases. The shortest separation time is for babies who tested positive for marijuana.

In short, as the Supreme Court of Hawaii found in the first case there where a woman was arrested for meth use during pregnancy, arresting pregnant drug users

For what it's worth, I've met the woman who was prosecuted in that Hawaii case. Her baby was born premature, and died after being released from the hospital (raising the question of why, if his health was compromised at birth, the hospital released him). Prosecutors assumed his death was the result of her having smoked meth a few days before delivery. After getting clean and getting through her prosecution, Tayshea Aiwohi has gone on to establish a foundation to help women recover from drug addiction and be reuinted with their children. It's named after her dead son. Seems to me she's doing a lot more good than the prosecutors who wanted to lock her up and throw away the key.

Bitch_PhD, being a liberal, is objectively pro-drug use.

Good heavens, are you just going to keep posting these until everyone says you are right?

shit, fan, i believe you two are well acquainted...

Hey look, it's yet another thread that, were you not a professional blogger (unlike us godless men-folk just here for the titties), would have been contained within the original thread. So that's three articles you get published under one actual topic! I'm amazed by your ability to get paid for this.

"shit, as long as there's a chance my baby WON'T be fucked up by my drug use, i may as well. bottoms up!"


find a new topic, this is obnoxious.

I for one, think meth is a wonderful thing for pregnant mothers to be involved with. Who doesnt want a mom with rotted teeth?

This is fucking pathetic.

I'm not going to further anger myself by replying to this. However, if you have something like this to post, keep it in one of the other two threads you created. The newswire is not you personal blog.

is there actually anyone paying attention to what get's posted as "news" anymore? isn't shit like this the reason we have blogs?!

Wow, this article was really thought provoking and interesting...the first two times I read it.

Seriously, who is this woman? Why does she get to use the newswire as a personal blog, while I'm stuck paying for an account?

...wouldn't this be one of those cases where it might be a good idea to ASSUME your baby would be a retarded mutant if you smoke meth while pregnant? Maybe?

I'm not in favor of throwing more people in jail over drugs. I just think if you smoke meth and you're a woman and have kids or may become pregnant, you should have your uterus taken away. Stupid.

Don't flame me for responding, I haven't read the other posts on this topic. You can totally get me on the forced stearilization though. But seriously, people should have a fucking liscence to bring children into this would.

you are so judgmental of womyn, chauvinist pig! you can't take away my right to do drugs while pregnant, THIS IS AMERICA!

I agree with you, but...

Clearly, all women should use meth while pregnant.

A report that was released earlier this week, suggested children of mothers who ate fish, were more successful. Clearly fish was a typo and "meth" was the substance they were referring to. In related news, Frosted Flakes will now be sprinkled with delicious meth flakes.

I don't like Bitch_PhD. at all and I bet she doesn't even have a PhD, other than that I do agree with her name. Zing!

Are we in Bizarro world now?

Drugz good! Drugz make pregnant woman, stronger! Teeth no fall out, teeth turn to galvanized steel! Solomon Grundy, smash!

Totally retarded, please go make your own blog titled: My Opinion Doesn't Exist, But My Facts Say They Do.

I agree, you should never celebrate Thanksgiving with a Leprechaun.

Mmmm.... meth flakes. I should get started buying up all the pseudophedrine I can per day, so I can start making "Baby Brain Flakes" for pregnant mothers.

Awesome.

Hey, did you guys know Britney Spears shaved her head?

And I bet Paris Hilton fucked somebody, too.

(As long as we're discussing "news"...)

No, wait, she gets paid to write here?

Damn, you mean to say essentially I'm helping to pay for her wages out of my subscription money?

Sucks to be me (and all of us really...)!

"My point is that simple judgments about drugs' effects on pregnancy aren't supported by the science; even when we know that in general X drug tends to cause Y outcome, that isn't the same thing as saying that this specific user is going to have that specific result. The most one can say is that it puts a user at an elevated risk for that result."

You are apparently operating on inappropriate assumptions about science. In very few cases can science say that X will produce Y outcome every time. For instance, being shot in the face with a gun will not always produce death. We would not, however, be justified in claiming that the theory "gunshots to the face cause death" is pattently false.

The study you cite suggests that meth use while pregnant puts the child at risk for a variety of harmful effects. The fact that other factors beyond meth use may be more detrimental than it does not entail that women should then be allowed to use meth while pregnant or that the risk of harm is insignificant.

paris hilton has fucked the equivalent of the population of south dakota since this topic was posted.

What does that link have to do with drug use?

Yeah, but we both know nobody lives in South Dakota. She can do better.