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Colin_ORegan

Colin_ORegan

Brooklyn, NY
May 2006

FEB 10, 2007 03:40 PM


A German teen has traded the school house for the big house.

Maggie Haineder, from Goerlitz in Saxony, was sentenced to two weeks in prison after she missed more than three weeks of school.

The judge who executed sentencing is obviously a touch insane. Poor Judge Andreas Pech exhausted when all other forms of punishment failed decided to play hardball.

"She had a fine which she did not pay, then she asked for the fine to be converted into doing social work which she did not do.

"Now she has to go to jail. A prison sentence was the last resort. Everything else failed."

But, prison is just the thing for hardened criminals and fifteen year old girls like Maggie who show no signs of remorse and repeated attempts at rehabilitation have only served to embarrass a judge. The prison sentence will be a loud message to delinquent German children everywhere who have to learn that adults aren't to be trifled with. Maggie assured the judge that given a second chance at community service she would not take it for granted, but the judge wasn't hearing it.

"This is not a TV show. The sentence has been handed down. Full stop."

Yeah, that's right, talk to the gavel, bitch.

BurningLeviathan

BurningLeviathan

Australia
January 2005

FEB 10, 2007 11:04 PM

eh, She had two chances to follow what the court ordered. It's her own fault.

catdad

catdad

Portland, OR
August 2002

FEB 10, 2007 11:10 PM

I don't think court orders are something to trifle with unless you've got a really good lawyer.

jonze

jonze

Willimantic, CT
December 2005

FEB 10, 2007 11:13 PM

I know our prisons are already overcrowded with naughty people but can we start doing this in the States? Please?

Helter

Helter

Chester, PA
OLD SKOOL

FEB 10, 2007 11:22 PM

Aren't prison and jail two different things?

You_Dont_Know_Me

You_Dont_Know_Me

Bossier City, LA
July 2004

FEB 10, 2007 11:23 PM

jonze said:
I know our prisons are already overcrowded with naughty people but can we start doing this in the States? Please?



Under the same circumstances, I think we do.

Karilynn

Karilynn

Minneapolis, MN
February 2007

FEB 10, 2007 11:25 PM

dayum.

JerseyNoodles

JerseyNoodles

USA
September 2005

FEB 10, 2007 11:41 PM

Shit happens. Guess all it takes to really learn a lesson is to toss German salad...

ASSH0LE

ASSH0LE

Las Vegas, NV
June 2003

FEB 10, 2007 11:47 PM

Helter said:
Aren't prison and jail two different things?



Yes, when you go directly to Prison you DO pass go and DO collect $200 (or was that $250? inflation and conversion to EU currency be damned).

ASSH0LE

ASSH0LE

Las Vegas, NV
June 2003

FEB 10, 2007 11:48 PM

JerseyNoodles said:
Shit happens. Guess all it takes to really learn a lesson is to toss German salad...



German potato salad, perhaps?

Haven't had that shit in years.

SmellsLikeSciFi

SmellsLikeSciFi

Houston, TX
April 2004

FEB 11, 2007 12:03 AM

uhhh..."You should have GONE to class".


Jesus

Holden_Caulfield

Holden_Caulfield

Ann Arbor, MI
April 2004

FEB 11, 2007 12:09 AM

Too many people go to jail for the wrong reasons as it is today. Truants have no business being there.

When truants don't go to school they end up in a dead end job. That is their jail.

BurningKrome

BurningKrome

San Jose, CA
April 2005

FEB 11, 2007 12:33 AM

Holden_Caulfield said:
Too many people go to jail for the wrong reasons as it is today. Truants have no business being there.

When truants don't go to school they end up in a dead end job. That is their jail.


I think the sentence was more related to the multiple contempt of courts.

Although, maybe if truants spent two weeks in jail (or prison...whatever) maybe they'd go to school. I mean, sure...a lifelong sentence of shit jobs is certainly a more reasonable punishment than two weeks in (wherever)...

God knows we need more angry, impoverished, undereducated people in America. Gettin' to be a shortage in my opinionation.


Vestril

Vestril

Coronado, CA
February 2003

FEB 11, 2007 12:49 AM

Holden_Caulfield said:
Too many people go to jail for the wrong reasons as it is today. Truants have no business being there.

When truants don't go to school they end up in a dead end job. That is their jail.



I think that's the idea buddy; she spends 2 weeks in jail and smartens up a bit. Maybe she does, maybe she doesn't, but she's being given a great chance to think about where she wants to go with her life.

vagonfumador

vagonfumador

Italy
May 2005

FEB 11, 2007 01:03 AM

Catholic School Girls Rule ooo aaa

HorseheadFiddle

HorseheadFiddle

San Diego, CA
October 2004

FEB 11, 2007 01:29 AM

Dirty hippies.

Tacevil

Tacevil

Moab, UT
November 2004

FEB 11, 2007 01:42 AM

maybe she's standing up for something she believes in.People can become smart without school.

Big_Slikk

Big_Slikk

Anchorage, AK
April 2005

FEB 11, 2007 01:52 AM

YES! that's what we need to do! Three Strikes for minors!!!

PogMoThoin

PogMoThoin

Jamaica, NY
January 2004

FEB 11, 2007 02:07 AM

"You should have WENT to class?"

If only they taught grammar in prison also.

dem_z

dem_z

United Kingdom
June 2004

FEB 11, 2007 04:08 AM

In the UK her parents would have gone to jail.

CuriousTomcat

CuriousTomcat

Germany
November 2005

FEB 11, 2007 06:00 AM

I was a bit surprised by the more than three weeks skipping on school being converted into two weeks of prison and did a little research.
MORE than three weeks is correct because almost a year is also just more than three weeks.
The girl was snetenced to social work. Told that the schedule for the social work was inconvenient and got a new schedule which she ignored. So she was actually asking not for a second chance but for a third chance on the social work (not counting the fines) after the sentence did sink in.
She was fined three times (maybe the three fines converted somewhere along the line into three weeks by mistake) and paid up not one - meaning that also did nothing.
The parents first protested agianst the two week sentence but withdrew the protest. They had after all not been able to take responsibility for the girl before.

The translation of the quotes is not fully accurate (but it shows the same inaccuracies in all English sources).

The judge who is dubbed as


obviously a touch insane


said that he applied the law and voiced his regret that the law did not provide other measures.

Politicians especially of the "Green" party have taken up the issue already.

P.S.: It is ironic that the two weeks spent in a special Youth Ward will fall into school time and not vacation but probably se will attend classes in the ward... Where can she go?

StarBelliedBoy

StarBelliedBoy

Philadelphia, PA
December 2003

FEB 11, 2007 06:09 AM

Tacevil said:
maybe she's standing up for something she believes in.People can become smart without school.



The only belief she seems to be standing up for is that she can do whatever she wants with no consequences. Fuck her.

And you can be smart without getting an education, but nobody cares if you are, you have to prove it before anyone will give a shit.

_DictionaryGirl_

_DictionaryGirl_

NEWSWIRE

San Diego, CA

FEB 11, 2007 08:31 AM

I would like to volunteer myself for the job of Official SG Copy Editor. I swear, it's really fun for me. I think we could use it around here. shocked

In other news, I guess she should have gone to class! bok

SocietysPliers

SocietysPliers

Ocala, FL
October 2004

FEB 11, 2007 08:33 AM

ASSH0LE said:

Helter said:
Aren't prison and jail two different things?

Yes, when you go directly to Prison you DO pass go and DO collect $200 (or was that $250? inflation and conversion to EU currency be damned).

Here, "Prison" generally refers to Federal or State correctional institutions, while "Jail" refers to county institutions. Usually, prisons are for those convicted of more severe crimes or who have received longer sentences, and jail is for more minor things; for instance, here you can do 30 days in jail for an expired auto registration or 90 for expired insurance, and 2 years is the maximum you are SUPPOSED to be able to spend in county jail - a favourite judicial trick is to keep one in jail longer than the maximum possible sentence pending court so that even if you're able to prove your innocence you've already done your time. Most people would prefer jail, but here in Marion County, most former inmates seem to say they'd choose 2 years in prison over 6 months in jail. But tha'ts only in this county.

I don't know about German jails or prisons, though, nor how they translate from one language to the other.

_DictionaryGirl_ said:
I would like to volunteer myself for the job of Official SG Copy Editor. I swear, it's really fun for me. I think we could use it around here. shocked

In other news, I guess she should have gone to class! bok

Yes, a few commas might have been appropriate, as well. Grammar is often lacking here, as well as in many newspapers in print. People tend to be looser online, and deadline pressure and staffing problems account for many of the grammatical shortcomings in newsstand newspapers.

And, while I don't know if kids are jailed for truancy here, but we have had them arrested for Bayer aspirin packets.

MisterSatan

MisterSatan

Portland, OR
August 2002

FEB 11, 2007 08:34 AM

_DictionaryGirl_ said:
I would like to volunteer myself for the job of Official SG Copy Editor. I swear, it's really fun for me. I think we could use it around here. shocked

In other news, I guess she should have gone to class! bok



Love, don't even bother. It's kind of a foregone conclusion at this point.

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