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d20

d20

San Francisco, CA
September 2003

FEB 12, 2007 12:12 AM

AceT said:

d20 said:

Trevallion said:
Heh, I only use an RSS reader, and it's kind of a piece of crap. I've never been able to find a good one for my PC. Isn't there some sort of Mac RSS reader widget?



bloglines.com


You're showing your age, grandpa. Do you watch 60 Minutes too?



back in my day, ajax was for cleaning.





now get the hell off my lawn.

_Elichrusos

_Elichrusos

Australia
November 2004

FEB 12, 2007 12:14 AM

MrStitches said:

MisterSatan said:

Necia said:

SirPsychoSexy said:
When those crazy people find out that a bunch of the files they owned got DRM baleeted out of existence by Vista, (an operating system that thinks it has more rights to what you do on your computer than you do)



Random deletions? Authoritarian OSs? DRM who?


Please to explain what it means?


confused



Basically (and I have no idea if this is actually true, I'm just translating geekspeak) SPS is saying that Vista will nuke the files on your hard drive that it deems to be in violation of some kind of digital rights management (DRM) belonging to god knows who.

Savvy?



Do you have a source for that? I've heard that it takes over your hardware if it decides that you are in the process of pirating something, but I haven't heard anything like what you're saying, which sounds like a whole lot of suck.


I've heard that too. Hearsay tells me that Vista's DRM is overzealous enough to prevent legitimate use of media, all piracy aside.

Aaron

Aaron

Shakopee, MN
July 2004

FEB 12, 2007 01:11 AM

Elichrusos said:

MrStitches said:

MisterSatan said:

Necia said:

SirPsychoSexy said:
When those crazy people find out that a bunch of the files they owned got DRM baleeted out of existence by Vista, (an operating system that thinks it has more rights to what you do on your computer than you do)



Random deletions? Authoritarian OSs? DRM who?


Please to explain what it means?


confused



Basically (and I have no idea if this is actually true, I'm just translating geekspeak) SPS is saying that Vista will nuke the files on your hard drive that it deems to be in violation of some kind of digital rights management (DRM) belonging to god knows who.

Savvy?



Do you have a source for that? I've heard that it takes over your hardware if it decides that you are in the process of pirating something, but I haven't heard anything like what you're saying, which sounds like a whole lot of suck.


I've heard that too. Hearsay tells me that Vista's DRM is overzealous enough to prevent legitimate use of media, all piracy aside.



You've heard wrong, DRM in vista is this, HD DVDs and Blue-Ray Discs will not play in full resolution unless you have an HDCP compliant video card and monitor.

It won't nuke anything.

malkav11

malkav11

Saint Paul, MN
July 2003

FEB 12, 2007 01:47 AM

Incidentally, I just came across a rather neat-sounding little tool. I have no personal experience with it as I haven't got a copy of Vista yet and have no intention of doing so for at least six months (barring compelling reasons otherwise - e.g., DX10 games that I can't run on XP but want to play). But it allows you to customize the Vista install (by modifying the installer itself, which requires you to burn the modified install onto a new DVD) to your liking, including removal of unnecessary components, integrating important drivers into the install, tweaking, and so on. Something I would have killed to have with XP. I saw customized XP installs floating around the net from time to time, but they didn't work for me and I wasn't up to learning how to do it myself.

vLite

Zzabbo

Zzabbo

Joplin, MO
OLD SKOOL

FEB 19, 2007 11:51 AM

Upgraded to Vista last week, Home Premium version. Simple install, around 30 minutes from inserting the disc to completion. Another 20 minutes to find drivers for a few items (Creative soundcard, 6/yo samsung laser printer, etc) and to install them. Transferred items from the windows.old folder to the new install, deleted windows.old, and have had no problems since then. All programs, games and files have ran just fine. Guess I'm missing something, but Vista seems to be stable, easy to use and an attractive OS.

DrStinkypants

DrStinkypants

Saint Paul, MN
October 2002

FEB 19, 2007 12:03 PM

AaronB said:
You've heard wrong, DRM in vista is this, HD DVDs and Blue-Ray Discs will not play in full resolution unless you have an HDCP compliant video card and monitor.

It won't nuke anything.



Awesome. So all I have to do is shell out $150 and then update my fucking OS and then spend another 6 months figuring out how the hell to get it to stop launching MSN messenger into my soul CONSTANTLY... but it won't randomly delete files....


I'm getting a fucking Mac
srsly

malkav11

malkav11

Saint Paul, MN
July 2003

FEB 19, 2007 12:53 PM

Zzabbo said:
Upgraded to Vista last week, Home Premium version. Simple install, around 30 minutes from inserting the disc to completion. Another 20 minutes to find drivers for a few items (Creative soundcard, 6/yo samsung laser printer, etc) and to install them. Transferred items from the windows.old folder to the new install, deleted windows.old, and have had no problems since then. All programs, games and files have ran just fine. Guess I'm missing something, but Vista seems to be stable, easy to use and an attractive OS.



Sometimes people just luck out and don't have any problems. I know people who've never had any issues with XP. Alas, I am not one of them.

Syrrys

Syrrys

Chicago, IL
October 2004

FEB 19, 2007 01:12 PM

malkav11 said:
Sometimes people just luck out and don't have any problems. I know people who've never had any issues with XP. Alas, I am not one of them.



I'm almost ready to upgrade to XP completely.... I got my first computer with it about 2 years ago... and I got a new PC in the office with XP in November (for the last 3 years I've been running 2k)

but then I just did a fresh, clean install of 2000 yesterday, on what will soon become my media server... which once it's running will replace my old desktop that is also 2k based... one of them might go to linux eventually....

So what's all this about Vista?

SexCells

SexCells

Topeka, KS
February 2007

FEB 19, 2007 01:34 PM

i will stick with dos, thank you.

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

FEB 19, 2007 01:49 PM

SexCells said:
i will stick with dos, thank you.







Lemonkid

Lemonkid

Canada
May 2003

FEB 19, 2007 04:37 PM

AceT said:

Trevallion said:

AceT said:
Safari is not superior to Firefox. You will woefully miss your extensions. Things will not render correctly, even though they do in Firefox. Even on major sites like Google (Gmail, GMaps, GReader, GCal, all have quirks).

Safari is faster than Firefox because it's not an ugly port. Firefox for OS X, especially 2.0, is buggy and slow, so it's not terribly usable, but Safari can be maddeningly hair pulling. You'll get used to it (or switch to Camino).



Heh, I only use an RSS reader, and it's kind of a piece of crap. I've never been able to find a good one for my PC. Isn't there some sort of Mac RSS reader widget?


There are several. I use Google Reader though. It's cross-platform, looks a lot like GMail, and works perfectly on my phone.



I use Sage, but Google Reader works nice.

mamet

mamet

Charleston, SC
March 2005

APR 26, 2008 04:03 PM

God, I hate it so much. It keeps fucking crashing. I just bought a new machine the other day and it's driving me crazy. I kind of miss my "slow," six-year-old XP PC. frown

SoulRiver

SoulRiver

Columbus, OH
January 2005

APR 26, 2008 04:10 PM

Windows automatically updates to SP1 so your computer might be having trouble with the newer version.

Shal

Shal

Los Angeles, CA
October 2002

APR 26, 2008 05:11 PM

Funny enough, Bean and I are both using Vista right now. At this very moment, in fact. Bean's playing Warcraft on his Vista-running PC, and I'm typing this on my Vista-running laptop.


Heh.


Runs great for both of us (on really awesome computers with a shitload of processor power and RAM...)

jermhawk

jermhawk

Tidioute, PA
December 2004

APR 26, 2008 07:50 PM

I'll stick with Linux, although a Mac is appealing if i can access the Unix via command line.

crispy

crispy

NEWSWIRE

Philadelphia, PA

APR 26, 2008 08:15 PM

Here's one story of a Vista upgrade early last year that did not go well. Jon, let's call him, (bear with me -- I'll reveal his full identity later) upgrades two XP machines to Vista. Then he discovers that his printer, regular scanner and film scanner lack Vista drivers. He has to stick with XP on one machine just so he can continue to use the peripherals.

Did Jon simply have bad luck? Apparently not. When another person, Steven, hears about Jon's woes, he says drivers are missing in every category -- "this is the same across the whole ecosystem."

Then there's Mike, who buys a laptop that has a reassuring "Windows Vista Capable" logo affixed. He thinks that he will be able to run Vista in all of its glory, as well as favorite Microsoft programs like Movie Maker. His report: "I personally got burned." His new laptop -- logo or no logo -- lacks the necessary graphics chip and can run neither his favorite video-editing software nor anything but a hobbled version of Vista. "I now have a $2,100 e-mail machine," he says.

It turns out that Mike is clearly not a naïf. He's Mike Nash, a Microsoft vice president who oversees Windows product management. And Jon, who is dismayed to learn that the drivers he needs don't exist? That's Jon A. Shirley, a Microsoft board member and former president and chief operating officer. And Steven, who reports that missing drivers are anything but exceptional, is in a good position to know: he's Steven Sinofsky, the company's senior vice president responsible for Windows.

Their remarks come from a stream of internal communications at Microsoft in February 2007, after Vista had been released as a supposedly finished product and customers were paying full retail price. Between the nonexistent drivers and PCs mislabeled as being ready for Vista when they really were not, Vista instantly acquired a reputation at birth: Does Not Play Well With Others.


The New York Times - March 09, 2008

I was going to turn the above into a piece for the Newswire but never got around to it.

AceT

AceT

Portland, OR
April 2004

APR 26, 2008 08:25 PM

Shalome said:
Funny enough, Bean and I are both using Vista right now.


Is bean going through some kind of rebellious phase? First he shaves, now he's using Vista? It's like we don't even know him anymore.

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