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PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

JAN 24, 2007 01:38 PM

Solaris said:

PointBlank said:

adjunct said:
I'm sure the recent development of the whole super-premium market space in alcoholic beverages isn't entirely marketing. Right.


No shit. Nothing funnier than someone ordering Grey Goose or Belvedere in their Vodka and Cran.



wow, that makes me feel less bad about myself and my uneducated palate. especially when it's combined with other things... i can't tell the difference okay? .


Yeah, no one can. If you're combining vodka and cranberry juice (especially shitty bar-cranberry) or OJ, there is no point in ordering Belvedere or Goose, but people still do it all the time.

adjunct

adjunct

Philadelphia, PA
July 2002

JAN 24, 2007 01:44 PM

PRockGooseScout said:

PointBlank said:

adjunct said:
I'm sure the recent development of the whole super-premium market space in alcoholic beverages isn't entirely marketing. Right.


No shit. Nothing funnier than someone ordering Grey Goose or Belvedere in their Vodka and Cran.



I don't notice the difference in a drink with a strong juice or other flavor in it but if I'm having say a gin and tonic, it had better be tangueray or better or puke.


The point is that Tanqueray used to be top shelf, i.e. premium. Now, it and its ilk (like Stoli in the vodka market) are middle shelf, displaced by these stupid artisanal/boutique "super-premium" products that are mostly marketing with a bigger price tag. There are clearly differences when you're talking about things distilled using different processes (pot stills v. column stills) or unusual ingredients (like the Hangar One and Charbay vodkas that use real fruit for infusion instead of synthesized compounds), but it's not like Stoli, Tanqueray, or anything else in the upper-middle of the market suddenly got worse. Instead, we've gotten a full-court press of marketing from the beverage industry to create an entirely new market space with precious little innovation.

FridgeMagnet

FridgeMagnet

Chicago, IL
November 2004

JAN 24, 2007 01:45 PM

PointBlank said:

Solaris said:

PointBlank said:

adjunct said:
I'm sure the recent development of the whole super-premium market space in alcoholic beverages isn't entirely marketing. Right.


No shit. Nothing funnier than someone ordering Grey Goose or Belvedere in their Vodka and Cran.



wow, that makes me feel less bad about myself and my uneducated palate. especially when it's combined with other things... i can't tell the difference okay? .


Yeah, no one can. If you're combining vodka and cranberry juice (especially shitty bar-cranberry) or OJ, there is no point in ordering Belvedere or Goose, but people still do it all the time.



I don't drink vodka so I don't really know what I'm talking about, but setting taste aside for a minute, I do know that whiskeys and gin tend to produce a more hellacious hangover the cheaper they are. I believe it has to do with the level of impurities.

So maybe there is a reason to drink Ketel and Cran, or whatever...a "cleaner" buzz.

Solaris

Solaris

SUICIDEGIRL

British Columbia, Canada

JAN 24, 2007 01:47 PM

adjunct said:

PRockGooseScout said:

PointBlank said:

adjunct said:
I'm sure the recent development of the whole super-premium market space in alcoholic beverages isn't entirely marketing. Right.


No shit. Nothing funnier than someone ordering Grey Goose or Belvedere in their Vodka and Cran.



I don't notice the difference in a drink with a strong juice or other flavor in it but if I'm having say a gin and tonic, it had better be tangueray or better or puke.


The point is that Tanqueray used to be top shelf, i.e. premium. Now, it and its ilk (like Stoli in the vodka market) are middle shelf, displaced by these stupid artisanal/boutique "super-premium" products that are mostly marketing with a bigger price tag. There are clearly differences when you're talking about things distilled using different processes (pot stills v. column stills) or unusual ingredients (like the Hangar One and Charbay vodkas that use real fruit for infusion instead of synthesized compounds), but it's not like Stoli, Tanqueray, or anything else in the upper-middle of the market suddenly got worse. Instead, we've gotten a full-court press of marketing from the beverage industry to create an entirely new market space with precious little innovation.



BUT HAVE YOU SEEN HOW NEAT THE BOTTLES LOOK? come on.

Cassiel

Cassiel

Aurora, CO
September 2004

JAN 24, 2007 01:51 PM

erleichda said:

Salome said:
True Russian vodka, the kind you can get in Moscow from the corner kiosk at 4 a.m. for three bucks, is Gzhelka



Gzhelka has excellent TV-Ads, too. eeek

Cheeky russians.



AWESOME.

Quirky

Quirky

Birmingham, AL
October 2005

JAN 24, 2007 01:58 PM

Solaris said:

adjunct said:

PRockGooseScout said:

PointBlank said:

adjunct said:
I'm sure the recent development of the whole super-premium market space in alcoholic beverages isn't entirely marketing. Right.


No shit. Nothing funnier than someone ordering Grey Goose or Belvedere in their Vodka and Cran.



I don't notice the difference in a drink with a strong juice or other flavor in it but if I'm having say a gin and tonic, it had better be tangueray or better or puke.


The point is that Tanqueray used to be top shelf, i.e. premium. Now, it and its ilk (like Stoli in the vodka market) are middle shelf, displaced by these stupid artisanal/boutique "super-premium" products that are mostly marketing with a bigger price tag. There are clearly differences when you're talking about things distilled using different processes (pot stills v. column stills) or unusual ingredients (like the Hangar One and Charbay vodkas that use real fruit for infusion instead of synthesized compounds), but it's not like Stoli, Tanqueray, or anything else in the upper-middle of the market suddenly got worse. Instead, we've gotten a full-court press of marketing from the beverage industry to create an entirely new market space with precious little innovation.



BUT HAVE YOU SEEN HOW NEAT THE BOTTLES LOOK? come on.



There is only one bottle you will ever need.

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