NEWS: Stunning Gun

What a load of bullshit.

Perhaps it was "being the wrong colour". Or maybe "being foreign". Or "looking at me in a funny way".

I'd like to add to his stats that about 50 police officers are shot and killed every year doing their job. I have a feeling Amnesty isn't calling for a study on why that happens.

Taser-voodoo? You're kidding right?

I once watched a 225lb former Marine un-armed combat instructor get dropped like a sack of potatoes with the X-26 Taser during training. There was no "voodoo."

If you're interested in looking at the information and forming your own opinion there are audio recordings of a structured debate between the Pres of Taser and the head of Amnesty International
here.

It's always much more interesting to get all the info as opposed to the little sound bites the media tends to spoon feed us.

Heh. . .voodoo. I guess he doesn't believe in that electricity malarkey.

Thinks it's all a scam like that "landing on the moon hooplaa."

Or perhaps he's noticed that a taser is an almost purely offensive weapon designed to subdue unarmed people. It is functionally useless for self defense unless you have the odd luxury of an attacker who announces himself, is unarmed and lets you take the thing out of your purse. In real life muggers don't obviously follow you for blocks and stand eight feet away with a knife and demand your wallet. They sneak up behind you and stick a gun in your neck.

That seems like an essential problem with most weapons people are interested in owning for self defense. At any rate, I say give the mugger your wallet and phone (and watch if you have a nice one), hope he doesn't notice the taser and then get 'im on his way out. With enough snivelling and cowering you might even get away with it.

I disagree. If someone is attacking you without a weapon, but they are far larger than you, or just plain better at kicking ass, if you are able to get to your taser at some point, it would certainly be a defensive weapon. Or if you are getting mugged by someone with a knife who hasn't been sneaky about it. I don't have a problem with tasers, just with people having them who have no real idea of what they actually do to a person, or any real instruction on how to use them. But then, I think people should have to have some kind of safety training before owning a gun too.

I'd rather have this type of gun, personally. Spread the love.

Carry a purse. In this purse, have a wallet, keys, lipstick and a powder compact, a cellphone, some receipts and loose change, and some kleenex in there. Then put an object in that's about the size of a taser. Have a friend who's taller and heavier than you attack you from behind. See how quickly -- or if -- you can get to the "taser" before your friend can get you on the ground and/or get the purse away from you. Now imagine doing that throwing in the elements of fear, shock, and surprise.

Yeah.

Carry a purse. In this purse, have a wallet, keys, lipstick and a powder compact, a cellphone, some receipts and loose change, and some kleenex in there. Then put an object in that's about the size of a taser. Have a friend who's taller and heavier than you attack you from behind. See how quickly -- or if -- you can get to the "taser" before your friend can get you on the ground and/or get the purse away from you. Now imagine doing that throwing in the elements of fear, shock, and surprise.

Yeah.

I never said that it was a good defensive weapon. Just that the idea of it being a purely offensive weapon is silly.

I think everything you just said is wrong. In fact, 19 years in law enforcement tells me you're wrong.

To tell people there is nothing they can do to prevent or defend against an attack is irresponsible. There's alot a person can do to keep themselves safe, from keeping on their person a concealed weapon all the way down to being mindfull of where they're at and at what time of day.

We don't have policemen standing on every corner and I think americans like it that way. Because of that the cops aren't gonna be there when you get attacked. They'll be there after someone calls them. Guess who's responsible for your safety then. That's right YOU are.

Defending yourself doesn't have to be about starting WWIII but you do need to show them that you're not an easy mark. The typical mugger is just some coward looking for a push over. Someone he can scare into pissing themselves so he can take there money.

I'm a rather smallish guy. I'd probably be an easy mark.

I'm not really religiously anti-gun, I used to own a couple of them when I was younger and used to live out in the suburban boonies. Grew up with BB guns, graduated to 22, had a shotgun I hunted with for a season or two. Had a bow when I was about eight, almost got a compound but used my friend's instead.

I've never felt any need to carry a weapon for "self defense."

I've found that being aware of my surroundings, not looking too soft, too wealthy, or too stupid for my environment generally keeps even a little wuss like me pretty damned safe. Well, that and being thoughtful about where I'm heading next.

But really the most important thing is really not giving a fuck what other people say. If a guy wants to yell stupid shit at me, that's fine. Let him. The average stupid fuck is going to yell shit back and start the confrontation which causes all this violence.

Had I been those kids that got gunned down here in Vegas at Western High, the crazy fuck that shot them would probably have just gone on with whatever he was doing. Probably being the baddest dude with the coolest pickup in the trailer park.

If you need a taser you need to move or hire guards who don't need one, or if your reallly crazy learn how to fight. I can skin a man alive in under 5 min without restraints. Personally I'd rather die than do that karmically or dharmically. However if you bother to learn how to really hurt someone you might also learn why you shouldn't to a small extent. By the way don't take a martial sports such as Tae Kwon Do thats like playing a video game to learn how to box..

Of course they do.....Don't you watch the movies?


besides...i carry mine in a side-holster under my poncho...

Amanda Congdon gets Tasered

saw that video too, that guy is hardcore as fuck.

-Will

It doesn't look like much fun. The Comedy Central Position
Since it comes in stylish colors, perhaps it can be used the same way animals use color to warn predators to leave them the fuck alone (see poisonous tree frogs, coral snakes, or other colorful animals).

Firstly, nobody is saying

so leave that strawman out of the argument, eh?

If you're a cop, answer me this: how many civillians have proper handgun training, let alone proper self-defense training? How much training did you get to properly handle a taser before you were allowed to carry it on-duty?

Tasers *are* primarily offensive weapons. They are used in lieu of deadlier force by officers. - that does not make them a defensive weapon by any means. Effective use of Tasers require detailed knowlege of how they work, what they will and won't do, and what they will or won't penetrate at what range - knowlege the average civvie user likely won't have.

Giving the untrained weaponry vastly increases the likelihood they will be taken from them and/or used against them, and possibly used in other crimes later.