It used to be that dare-devil youngsters would get together during a sleep-over, dim the lights and scare the bejesus out of each-other while challenging the spirit of Bloody Mary or waiting with bated breath around an Ouija board. Today, however, it seems that the ghost stories of yore are passé and wussy, if you will. Now teens and twenty-somethings are upping the ante by forgoing spooky board games and, instead, firing up their computers and challenging the big guy himself, God.
More than 400 mostly young people who have joined a [YouTube] campaign by the Web site BlasphemyChallenge.com to stake their souls against the existence of God.
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The Blasphemy Challenge is a joint project of filmmaker Brian Flemming, director of the antireligion documentary "The God Who Wasn't There," and Brian Sapient, cofounder of the atheist Web site RationalResponders.com. Their intent was to encourage atheists to come forward and put their souls on the line, showing others that you don't have to be afraid of God. The particular form of the challenge was chosen because, by one interpretation, blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, a part of the Christian Trinity, is the only sin that can never be forgiven.
He forgives me. He fogives me not. The sacrilegious Web site instructs participants as follows:
Record a short message damning yourself to Hell, you upload it to YouTube, and then the Rational Response Squad will send you a free The God Who Wasn't There DVD. It's that easy.You may damn yourself to Hell however you would like, but somewhere in your video you must say this phrase: "I deny the Holy Spirit."
Why? Because, according to Mark 3:29 in the Holy Bible, "Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin." Jesus will forgive you for just about anything, but he won't forgive you for denying the existence of the Holy Spirit. Ever. This is a one-way road you're taking here.
Once you have shot your blasphemous video, just follow these two easy steps:
1. Go to this link on YouTube to upload your video as a "Video Response" to the Blasphemy Challenge. (You can log in or register on that page if necessary.) Please put the URL http://www.blasphemychallenge.com somewhere in the text description when you upload your video.
2. When the video appears on YouTube, send the URL to this email address: waronchristmas@hotmail.com. Also include a complete United States mailing address* so we can send your free copy of The God Who Wasn't There.
First Amendment rights in full effect? Or just one filmmaker's attempt at cheap publicity at the expense of angsty youth going through their Hot Topic phase? You decide.
The only problem I have with this really..crazy religious right groups looking you up to save...or worse yet...
Looking you up to condemn you prehaps via pipe bombs as they are known to do to "un-saveable" souls at some clinics I happen to support.
As a true sub-story a group of my friends as well as my self used to protest clinic protesters as a responce to them for a while several years ago...until one of my friends stumbled on some pictures of us on-line looking to find our names, addresses, and any other infromation on us. After that we sorta stopped doing it as we got a bit worried about getting sent bombs or something of that sort.
I am not a very paranoid person..but was a very uncomfortable situation to know there were people "looking" for me on-line...due to my political actions.
I've ready prolly 3/4 of the old testament and I remembered it being a lot more explict than that about making a blasphemy against god being unforgivable. Not just denying the holy spirit but actually insulting god himself. He doesnt take that kindly..... so just to make things official and get the whole 'am I going to hell when I die?' question out of the way I told god where he could shove it and got a good nights rest afterwards. Sadly though after I've grown up and escaped into my mid 20's people stopped trying to save my soul and all my built up of strong minded well articulated philosophical arguements practically rotted on the vine. My whole 'proof' that god cant love everyone if hell exists has only gotten one test drive on religious people trying to save me in the good 6 or 7 years Iv'e had it.... its a damned shame too. Its such a pretty argument.
While it's mildly amusing that they'd be willing to give away free DVDs to people that post this on youtube, this is the sort of thing you could definitely end up regretting later, if you live or work in a conservative community.
Yeah... this seems foolish. I don't know if Jesus' god exists or not, but I'm not about to try and find out the hard way. I mean, if you pray, you're not risking anything. If you do the opposite...
Weird, I watched the documentary on Google Video in December, but it's been removed. The first half with the early history of the church was pretty well done, but I felt it lost something once Mr. Flemming got personal.
There's one thing sadder than the hordes of people certain that the Bible is about a super-being in the sky. Hordes of people congradulating themselves for reaching the conclusion there's no super-being in the sky. I've yet to come across a single text that uses MORE metaphor than the Bible. I think it was written a few days before the scientific method was patented folks.
I've seen some of those videos before. I actually believe in some sort of god. Also, I always found it sort of annoying that people only ever use the Bible to deny the existence of a higher being. There ARE other religions, you know. And, you don't even have to suscribe to one to not be an Atheist.
Trahern said:
Yeah... this seems foolish. I don't know if Jesus' god exists or not, but I'm not about to try and find out the hard way. I mean, if you pray, you're not risking anything. If you do the opposite...
Ahhh, Pascal's wager.
But you are risking something. You're risking the chance that god is an asshole with a sense of humor and insulting him is the only way to get to heaven is by insulting and denying him. It's no more unlikely than the alternative. Whatever "good" thing you can think of to please god or bad thing you can think of to piss him off, I can imagine a completely opposite god that has the exact opposite preferences and will reward and punish you for the exact opposite reasons. And that god is just as likely to exist as the one you made up.
photoline said:
The Bible is a work of fiction. So this is no more than a lot of spiritual jerking off, to coin a phrase.
The Bible is not a work of fiction. There is probably fictional elements all stories that are retold or translated are somewhat fictionalized. Most of these people really did exist in history. Jesus was really a person the Romans(and Jewish historians) can attest to that. If you believe that he was the son of God or not is truly another story. It really sucks that a few "Christian" wackjobs F it up for Christians who actually believe in Jesus' teachings and follow the golden rule(even if they are not like you). Covers head and waits for beratement.
kudos to the film maker, and to sam harris and richard dawkins for opening up the closet so us damnable non-believers can come out just a bit more.....
i'm 59......and f*cking sick of religion......
nothing would improve the world more than if rational science could completely replace religion......
This seems a little immature. What purpose does it serve the participating individuals except to antagonize those with religious (particularly Christian) beliefs?
Things like this are a reason atheism is often conflated with anti-theism, or that all atheism is identical to strong atheism. It seems that most of the atheists that ever get publicity are the ones who are also cynically and certainly opposed to god(s), willing to profess very strong opinions which not all atheists would.
erin_broadley
Los Angeles, CA
October 2006
JAN 03, 2007 04:05 PM