NEWS: Free Hand Gun Training for Teachers!

CULTURE: Try Your Luck! Free Hand Guns for Teachers!

A Nevada state senator has figured out how to deal with the alarming number of students bringing guns into the classroom: Fight fire with fire-arms. Senator Bob Beers, R- Las Vegas, has got it all figured out, outfit our teachers with guns.

Guns are the answer! Why didn't we think of it before? It's like the Cold War, but in the classroom. What a learning experience! Those evil dictating teachers are the Soviet Union and students are the US. Except this time the Soviet Union gets the upper-hand! Maybe we could give them better guns.

Okay, it's not exactly like the Cold War.

While people tried to explain to Beers that he didn't know what he was talking about, Beers tried to explain that, no, you don't know what you're talking about! You gotta love the general progress of debate these days.

Senator Beers, I respect guns, I just like to respect them from a really great, great distance. Like huge. Oh and this is a stupid idea. How stupid? Listen to these people.

Did you listen?

Maybe if we removed children's access to guns by taking them out of homes that would be more effective? Uh-oh, here comes the Second Amendment!

Holy shit what a horrible fucking idea. Maybe he's using it to screen out the dumb teachers. Like if you agree to take a gun into your classrom you get fired and blacklisted.

What could go wrong?

That's the worst fucking idea I've ever heard.

Suicide has been the number 1 killer of teens for far too long.

fight firearms with firearms.

No kidding, I mean even the best case scenario (other than gun is never used) of: "teacher shoots gun toting minor" is still pretty wrong.

Arming teachers against students. Can you imagine the embarassing situations in the teachers lounge. "Has anybody seen my Glock?" "Isn't that it next to my Colt Python on the copier?" The level of stupidity in this country has reached new levels.

So why is the answer always making guns illegal? It's not even about the Second Ammendment. That only covers the right to maintain an armed defense force, which at the time was made up of civilian voulenteers, it is as misused as the First. This is about this nations addiction to blaming everyone but themselves. It's already illegal for minors to have guns. Schools are gun free zones.You must go thru a police background check to purchase a firearm. Yet whenever youths are caught with illegal weapons, instead of dealing with the real problem, you decide to punish those of us who obey the law. Social problem ,will never be cured by making laws that only affect honest citizens who obey them. Face it. Guns are tools, jst like hammers and cars. You have to be trained to use them.

Next you will be calling for the end of violent movies and vidoe games. I'll have to hide my copy of "Scarface" in fear that the police will come and take it away.

Eh, I'm open to trying it.

Makes me glad I went to a school where all staff were confined to a strict "no shooting students" policy. Absolutely no exceptions.

five dollars says the students will still be able to out-gun the teachers.

Guns are tools only under a very loose interpretation of the word. A tool is something that can be used for constructive and destructive purposes. All a gun knows how to do is kill shit. Not that I'm not saying that's not useful, but let's not get confused here and say a gun has any innocence to it.

Where have you been? This has been going on for years.

I think it's a good idea to let teachers carry guns if they are fully licensed to do so legally. I don't think teachers should be carrying them unless they are fully trained with them, just like anywhere else. I, having a concealed carry permit, can carry anywhere except certain places, like schools. I think teachers should be exempted from that, but should still need a permit/license and should obviously have to have them locked up or otherwise secured.

Of course on this site the knee-jerk "ZOMG GUNS BAD MMKAY???" reaction is expected, but I'd rather teachers be able to defend their classrooms if armed attackers threaten them.

They absolutely should be able to carry guns if they have the proper permits. But not at fucking school. Jesus fucking Christ, can we stop demonizing kids. Yes, a few of them occasionally bring guns to school. In the grand scheme of things, however, it is a very small percentage. It does not necessitate some ridiculous overreaction like this. Fuck all. Let's stop perpetuating this false Us vs. Them dichotomy. Kids should not have to feel threatened at school. This can only help deteriorate teacher/student relationships. Having a teacher/student shootout is going to do any fucking good in these rare cases of extreme school violence.

Of course, this is all probably moot as I can't foresee any way this happens.

You've completely changed my mind, teachers carrying weapons in classrooms make perfect sense. After all, some percentage of them must be ex-cops who need to fend of terrorist attacks ala Die Hard.

Knee jerk reaction is what you call it when someone thinks placing weapons designed to kill into a classroom where we educate children. If some kid is shooting up the school the LAST THING we need is a some fucking teacher trying to take him out. The teacher's job should be to try to evacuate and protect his students, not kill them. If a school is in an area prone to violence and they're desperate to have armed people on site, those people should be trained security guards, not professional educators.

Also, I'm not entirely sure there are that many people on this site who are way anti-guns. Certainly not amongst the American or Canadian members, and some others. I don't have a problem with people carrying guns in their homes, though I don't think it's generally a smart thing. Not even my own dad, who not only was trained in the use of a variety of weapons (guns, explosives and apparently some biological weapons included) but ran an armory on a base carries a gun in the house. A trained guard dog offers much better protection.

This is the wrong "solution" to this "problem."

i think i've got the hots for teacher.

Yeah guns are bad! People totally wouldn't try to kill one another anymore if there weren't any guns.

I sort of like that idea to be honest. Instead of guns children might bring a katana to school and think of how cool a playground katana fight would be.

I am a teacher and I would refuse to do touch a gun let alone carry one onto campus.
It is my responsibility to educate students and maintain their safety and by having guns in a classroom we are effectively putting that safety at risk. The stats are pretty clear - those that carry guns are the most likely to get shot.
I wouldn't want to be put in that position.
I thank God that in Australia we have no need for such things.

I hope this guy ^^^ is NOT an English/Grammar teacher..lol.

That comment about Australia is also very misleading. They outlawed guns completely, by wittling away at their right to carry.

Yes, it's a stupid idea to have teachers carry guns. There's just too many things that can go wrong with that. However, more does need to be done. Even metal detectors aren't always enough.

One helpful solution might be to do more to keep guns out of the hands of minors. That doesn't mean taking guns from adults who have them legally.

yeah... not the brightest idea... but who needs bright ideas these days anyway... not sure people would agree to a teacher shooting a student even if this one had a gun...

Stop and think about this, folks. How many of you had idiot teachers who overreacted whenever a student so much as implied disobedience? I had one who hauled me out of a classroom by my ear for not having one of my textbooks with me (some prick had kicked them all around the halls between periods, and I couldn't find it), and another one claimed that she feared for her life when I yelled at her over an assignment she'd badly misgraded but wouldn't correct (I was proven right, but suspended anyway - hate to admit it, but I did have a history of violence, if not with weapons or against teachers). Hell, I had one teacher try to get me kicked out of school when I privately pointed out to her that she'd left her gradebook open and on her desk when she'd left the room "briefly" for fifteen minutes. The principal got me suspended again when I tried warning my teacher that the new metal detectors were too sensitive, and that my keyring set them off at 15 feet.

I wouldn't want any of these jackasses with a gun.

I don't know what there is to be done, really. In my personal experience, I know of two "educators" whom I feel grossly misjudged my intent as hostile when I was trying to help them, and two more who overreacted to comparatively common problems. All that arming the teachers would do is change the scenario from being worried that there's a gun in the room, to being certain of it. I know I'm not the only one on these boards who figured out how to pick those cheapass locks on the teachers' desks.

Battle Royale Nevada ?..Sounds like a great reality show in the works..with REAL violence!..

While I find the idea of an ARMED faculty alarming, I think there should be a person on campus, WHO IS QUALIFIED.......... ie.....'Law Enforcement'.... to have access to a firearm in case of a 'Columbine type' emergency..........

........If this doesnt happen I think the number of people who brings guns to school will begin to dramatically escalate, especially if such incidents of violence continue to occur.....

hahahahahahahahahah

I have the unrated version of BattleRoyale LOL