Roethke said:
It seems that I'm the only person who thinks lying to children is not commendable.
I dunno about commendable, but what's the fucking point?
What really baffles me is that plenty of the people writing to this north pole know full well they're getting a fucking form letter from a volunteer as a response, and yet they find this gratifying... It just seems really fucking sad to me. It's a waste of everybody's time.
Personally, I'm trying to tell my girls that it's a little story they get to participate in and that Santa is a CHARACTER. But, with all sorts of other people in their life, they hear a lot that Santa is a real person. Hopefully, they'll come to believe my story, but it's up to them what they want to believe. *shrugs*
Also, I called a Santa hotline when I was 7 and asked them to bring my big brother home from the Navy for Christmas (he was on a boat and had been told he wouldn't be allowed leave). Santa said he would do what he could and my brother arrived two days before Christmas unexpectedly. The next year my mother told me Santa was a myth. I'm not scarred...the Santa hotline is one of my best memories...whether he was just an old guy volunteering or not.
bloomews said:
You're not lying to kids if YOU believe in it yourself.
I could start the same argument about god but I won't.
I susptect that most of the people who tell their kids about Santa Claus don't believe in him themselves. If they did believe in him, why would they buy all the presents?
Hell, go ahead and say the same thing about God. I'd never tell a kid that God exists because I don't believe it does.
bloomews said:
You're not lying to kids if YOU believe in it yourself.
I could start the same argument about god but I won't.
I susptect that most of the people who tell their kids about Santa Claus don't believe in him themselves. If they did believe in him, why would they buy all the presents?
Hell, go ahead and say the same thing about God. I'd never tell a kid that God exists because I don't believe it does.
My original plan with kids of my own was to be a blatantly honest with them about everything in life, the whole truth to the world and the lies all around them, but then I realized, it would be unfair to make them the outcast in school, to deprive them of childhood imaginations and dreams, it can all be detrimental to their imagination and make them grow up far too serious for their own good...everyone needs a little "fairy tale" in their life and if I was to deprive my child of the "lies" that make their imaginations run wild then that could scar them just as much as telling them Santa is real only for them to learn he isn't. Besides Saint Nicholas was a real person that gave just to give during this time of year and when he died he evolved into something far greater than he ever imagined possible, the icon of Christmas, and though his original kindness has been muddled by this new character Santa, it's still the spirit of Saint Nick that we embrace each year. I know I wouldn't want to be the only kid at my school that doesn't have a clue who or what this "Santa Claus" business is and I sure as hell don't want to be hated as a parent because my kid told all the other kids it's all a big joke and made those kids cry and tell their parents, "Jade's mommy says Santa isn't real." The whole neighborhood would hate me for sure...so let the children live the fantasy while they are young, no sense in making them think like grown ups from the moment they emerge into the big fucked up world.
geekgurl
Philadelphia, PA
June 2003
DEC 10, 2006 11:55 AM