Seriously! When were the lines blurred? I can tell the distinctive differences between the quintecential Goth and the typical Emo, but it seems like my perspective is a rare one. I have heard plenty of clearly goth people being called "Emo" and vice versa. Is it just people's ignorence or an offical switch of title?
I think it's because most people have more important things to worry about than correctly distinguishing one flavor-of-the-week clique from another in mall food courts.
SnakePlissken said:
I think it's because most people have more important things to worry about than correctly distinguishing one flavor-of-the-week clique from another in mall food courts.
i think it's because people who make fun of either group aren't intelligent enough to differentiate the two and just see them both as targets because they look like "fags".
The Emos - short for Emotional - regard themselves as a cool, young sub-set of the Goths.
Apart from being ridiculed all over the internet, several other UK newspapers decided to run articles attacking this article, or reference the how bad the writer's research was in their own comment pieces.
It stands out as one of the most inaccurate pieces of journalism (despite the content being pretty trivial) that I've read this year. And, no, it wasn't a joke.
SnakePlissken said:
I think it's because most people have more important things to worry about than correctly distinguishing one flavor-of-the-week clique from another in mall food courts.
i think it's because people who make fun of either group aren't intelligent enough to differentiate the two and just see them both as targets because they look like "fags".
maybe that's just in toronto.
No, the problem exists universally in all locales, in all subcultures. Such behavior is probably less a symptom of dullardism and more the result of a desire to look better or more "scene" in the eyes of peers. At least I hope that it's just a result of group-think.
xaly said:
And I still missed about 6 categories. *sigh* I'll never be popular.
Oh don't feel bad; I've never been able to fit into a subculture either. Its not that I don't WANT to, its just that I always manage to screw it up So, I suppose I am a Nerdy-Punk-Hick with dreams of political glory
The girl on the left there is neither goth nor emo. She just looks like a college student trying to be trendy. Either way, what's with the need to attach people (including ourselves) with stupid labels? I never quite got that.
BernardShakey said:
The girl on the left there is neither goth nor emo. She just looks like a college student trying to be trendy. Either way, what's with the need to attach people (including ourselves) with stupid labels? I never quite got that.
The internet has many sites dedicated to Emo fashion (dyed black hair brushed over your face, layering, black, black, black), Emo bands (Green Day, My Chemical Romance), Emo conversation (sighing, wailing, poetry).
Hah.. ahahaha.... AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Christ, I give up. Read this while I put on some Sunny Day Real Estate.
(But seriously, what's with all the definition-of-emo threads lately? Are you guys trying to rile me up?)
xaly said:
WE have sub-sets now? What makes them so sure that goth isn't a subset of Emo?
It's a matter of chronology. Goth as a subculture came into existence long before emo (the late 1970's is when Goth started to come into existence in the UK, whereas the D.C. hardcore roots of Emo wouldn't be established until the mid-1980s). I think that the assertion that Emo is a subset of Goth to be a bit silly and unfounded, but it makes a hell of a lot more sense than saying that Goth is a bastard child of Emo.
xaly said:
WE have sub-sets now? What makes them so sure that goth isn't a subset of Emo?
It's a matter of chronology. Goth as a subculture came into existence long before emo (the late 1970's is when Goth started to come into existence in the UK, whereas the D.C. hardcore roots of Emo wouldn't be established until the mid-1980s). I think that the assertion that Emo is a subset of Goth to be a bit silly and unfounded, but it makes a hell of a lot more sense than saying that Goth is a bastard child of Emo.
When you put it like that, it makes a lot more sense.
RedGrimRune
San Francisco, CA
November 2005
NOV 26, 2006 01:38 PM