dingoes8 said:
I need some lawyer type to back me up here, but they're not charging her with murder. They're charging her with Wrongful Death, which is a civil offense, not criminal. Yes, the woman is personally responsible for her own actions. But if Grace's neglegent actions lead to the death, the law says she could technically be held responsible under this charge, whether you think it's a dumb law or not.
You are right as far as I know. And they aren't going to find her "responsible" which is I believe what the ruling would be, as opposed to "guilty."
I have always felt situations like this case were flawed in that no other person but the party actually responsible should be held liable for what was done. Nobody made her put the shotgun to her head, she chose to do it. You can argue the laundry list of excuses as to her mental state and blah blah blah but at the end of the day she picked up the gun and shot herself instead of doing something else.
With that said, I did not know much of this Grace woman until recently and the more I see of her the more I despise her ignorance. I hope they find this child alive obviously for the child's sake but also because it will be such sweet desert for grace to eat her own ignorance publicly.
dingoes8 said:
I need some lawyer type to back me up here, but they're not charging her with murder. They're charging her with Wrongful Death, which is a civil offense, not criminal. Yes, the woman is personally responsible for her own actions. But if Grace's neglegent actions lead to the death, the law says she could technically be held responsible under this charge, whether you think it's a dumb law or not.
You are right as far as I know. And they aren't going to find her "responsible" which is I believe what the ruling would be, as opposed to "guilty."
Just like what happened to OJ after being found not guilty in his criminal trial.
LOL, I don't watch much TV, but I have been in a bar when she was on TV and even with the sound down the first and pretty much only words that came to my head would be "ultra-annoying". so the writer of this post nailed that motherfucker right on the head. I can remember one time when the sound was actually on and I could hardly get my beer down and even when I did get it down it was hard to keep it there. ANyway, my point here is that i don't agree with the wrongful-death type lawsuit in a case like this, but i do wish a giant bucket of snakes would fall out of the sky and crush her f*cking head. and then maybe the snakes could crawl out of the bucket and eat her mealy dead flesh.
I don't think anyone can be accounted for another persons suicide like this, if that was the case do you know how many people would be arrested for breaking up with there ex and the ex then commiting suicide, or when and I know for a fact this is happened someone jumps from somewhere and people chanted jump, wouldn't they to be put into the same category as Nacy Grace? I personally think Nancy Grace should be punished for doing this on National TV and misleading the girl before she came on if the story is true they aid they wanted to help her, I thought it was morally wrong for her to do this, but to be convicted for causing suicide is a bit to much...
Trelle said:
I don't think anyone can be accounted for another persons suicide like this, if that was the case do you know how many people would be arrested for breaking up with there ex and the ex then commiting suicide, or when and I know for a fact this is happened someone jumps from somewhere and people chanted jump, wouldn't they to be put into the same category as Nacy Grace? I personally think Nancy Grace should be punished for doing this on National TV and misleading the girl before she came on if the story is true they aid they wanted to help her, I thought it was morally wrong for her to do this, but to be convicted for causing suicide is a bit to much...
People actually chant "jump"? I thought that was just in the movies.
Trelle said:
I don't think anyone can be accounted for another persons suicide like this, if that was the case do you know how many people would be arrested for breaking up with there ex and the ex then commiting suicide, or when and I know for a fact this is happened someone jumps from somewhere and people chanted jump, wouldn't they to be put into the same category as Nacy Grace? I personally think Nancy Grace should be punished for doing this on National TV and misleading the girl before she came on if the story is true they aid they wanted to help her, I thought it was morally wrong for her to do this, but to be convicted for causing suicide is a bit to much...
People actually chant "jump"? I thought that was just in the movies.
Anyone in the Orlando or Central FL area may know of WJRR and the moring show the Fiasco, they actually had 2 people diff times call in on cell phones while they were chanting, one jumped, the other didnt
Trelle said:
I don't think anyone can be accounted for another persons suicide like this, if that was the case do you know how many people would be arrested for breaking up with there ex and the ex then commiting suicide, or when and I know for a fact this is happened someone jumps from somewhere and people chanted jump, wouldn't they to be put into the same category as Nacy Grace? I personally think Nancy Grace should be punished for doing this on National TV and misleading the girl before she came on if the story is true they aid they wanted to help her, I thought it was morally wrong for her to do this, but to be convicted for causing suicide is a bit to much...
She wouldn't be convicted of anything, just lose money. I don't really have a problem with that, in this case, but it could open the door for some other crappy things.
dingoes8 said:
I need some lawyer type to back me up here, but they're not charging her with murder. They're charging her with Wrongful Death, which is a civil offense, not criminal. Yes, the woman is personally responsible for her own actions. But if Grace's neglegent actions lead to the death, the law says she could technically be held responsible under this charge, whether you think it's a dumb law or not.
You are right as far as I know. And they aren't going to find her "responsible" which is I believe what the ruling would be, as opposed to "guilty."
Trelle said:
I don't think anyone can be accounted for another persons suicide like this, if that was the case do you know how many people would be arrested for breaking up with there ex and the ex then commiting suicide, or when and I know for a fact this is happened someone jumps from somewhere and people chanted jump, wouldn't they to be put into the same category as Nacy Grace? I personally think Nancy Grace should be punished for doing this on National TV and misleading the girl before she came on if the story is true they aid they wanted to help her, I thought it was morally wrong for her to do this, but to be convicted for causing suicide is a bit to much...
That bit about the ex makes a good point. I hadn't thought about that.
I mean, I do hate Nancy Grace, but I'd hate to find the law standing behind people who threaten other people with suicide as a form of abusive manipulation, you know?
PlanB said:
With that said, I did not know much of this Grace woman until recently and the more I see of her the more I despise her ignorance. I hope they find this child alive obviously for the child's sake but also because it will be such sweet desert for grace to eat her own ignorance publicly.
I'm with you. The only time I've saw her on tv is during the whole "runaway bride" national story. She was so sensationalistic, going on and on about how what horrible things could have happened to her and that they had to find her. Your post made me think that she must have looked really stupid when they found the bride.
FridgeMagnet
Chicago, IL
November 2004
NOV 27, 2006 12:58 PM