Tersch said:
'What ever happened to taking responsibility for your own actions???' I've been in many inebriated states and always felt responsible for my own actions, no matter what I did, good or bad.

I think this is where you differ from most of the population. It's hard enough to get people to own up to their own actions when they were sober....

It does appear so, but I do not find this to be a hard concept to grasp or to put into practise....it really does dumbfounds me

MessyJessy

Fort Myers, FL

August 2005

NOV 12, 2006 08:50 PM

PRockGirlScout said:

MessyJessy said:
bahahahahahahaha... did he force them to drink alcohol? because if not, i really don't see how they have a case...

A natural person who enters a contract possesses complete legal capacity to be held liable for the duties he or she agrees to undertake, unless the person is a minor, mentally incapacitated, or intoxicated.

-From the Encyclopedia of Everyday Law

Excellent point, I guess I didn't really think of it from the consent standpoint; which is amusing considering that is all this case truly is...

Beyond that I guess I just wish these two would be able to laugh at themselves in a stupid context. I think most of us have done a few stupid things before while drunk...

I also completely disagree with the "fratboy" generalizations...

mamet

Charleston, SC

March 2005

NOV 12, 2006 08:55 PM

MessyJessy said:

PRockGirlScout said:

MessyJessy said:
bahahahahahahaha... did he force them to drink alcohol? because if not, i really don't see how they have a case...

-From the Encyclopedia of Everyday Law

I have a predilection for eating entire blocks of cheese. Racism and misogyny, though, I tend to stay away from.

Dexy

SUICIDEGIRL

United Kingdom

NOV 13, 2006 06:02 PM

since when do frat boys need a movie to make them look dumb?

MrCrisp

Charleston, SC

August 2004

NOV 13, 2006 10:08 PM

from the smoking gun:

Justin Seay, one of the many unwitting co-stars of "Borat," would prefer these days to be known only as "John Doe." The University of South Carolina graduate, 24, is one of two former fraternity members to file a lawsuit last week (using the fictitious Doe handle) against the comedy's producers and Twentieth Century Fox.

A drunken Seay appears in the film with two fellow Chi Psi frat brothers, and the boisterous trio acquits themselves exactly as you'd expect. In his lawsuit, Seay contends that last October the "Borat" crew got him and his pals drunk and encouraged them to engage in "behavior that they otherwise would not have engaged in." As a result, Seay/Doe claims that he has suffered humiliation, mental anguish, and emotional and mental distress, for which he wants to be paid damages.

We'll let the courts handle those claims, but Seay does not seem like an amateur when it comes to partying. On his MySpace page, Seay lists "gettin' drunk and havin' a good time" as one of his interests, along with NASCAR and "pretty much any typical guy stuff." In an August poem to Seay, a friend writes, "Hey Hey Justin Seay, Drinks like a fish everyday!" Another buddy's message opens with the salutation, "Hi Drunk Friend!!!" But it is the photos of Seay that will probably draw the interest of lawyers defending the producers of the movie, which stars comedian Sacha Baron Cohen as a clueless, anti-Semitic journalist from Kazakhstan. Seay, it seems, is rarely photographed without alcohol in his hand, as seen in a series of eight MySpace photos reproduced here. Reached today on his cell phone, Seay, a former Chi Psi vice president, declined comment on his lawsuit.

yup, sounds like a victim to me.

PRockGirlScout

Hawaii National Park, HI

October 2005

NOV 13, 2006 10:44 PM

Edit: I've said too much.

MrCrisp

Charleston, SC

August 2004

NOV 13, 2006 10:55 PM

PRockGirlScout said:
Edit: I've said too much.

what you say?

PRockGirlScout

Hawaii National Park, HI

October 2005

NOV 13, 2006 11:05 PM

MrCrisp said:

PRockGirlScout said:
Edit: I've said too much.

what you say?

Go ahead, make your time.

erinachan

Aurora, CO

September 2006

NOV 14, 2006 11:51 AM

proximityeffect said:
The villagers are upset, too.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=415871&in_page_id=1770

If that's a true article that absolutley horrible!! The fucking frat guys deserve their humiliation but to make fun of and exploit innocent people just because they didn't grow with the same privledges as others is just morally reprehensible.

hadees

Austin, TX

December 2003

NOV 14, 2006 12:25 PM

Why does everyone say Frat instead of Fraternity? You don't call your country a cunt.

Anyway not all Fraternities are walking stereotypes. Mine was actually all inclusive and we used to make fun of the cookie cutter fraternities (the ones where everyone looks and dresses the same). In fact some of the Jewish Fraternities that started, like the one at the University of Alabama my Grandpa joined, were there to protect each other from the anti-semitic rest of the student body of which many were not even in fraternities.

Also wasn't there another thread on this? I post there and I'll post it again here that you are a fucking retard if you sign things with out reading them and you deserve what ever you got. Your signature is legally binding and we aren't going to go around changing our contract laws to prevent idiots from embarrassing themselves when they sign documents they don't read.

felix7

Greenville, SC

March 2003

NOV 15, 2006 12:08 AM

As alcohol only weakens ones inhibitions, it does not turn you into a racist ass, I would have to say these two were quite adept in this roll before the film. Just like any roach, they don't like it when the light is turned on them.

Also, being a former frat boy from South Carolina, I would like to take this opportunity to say that while yes there are a fair share of these idiots in frats, I know some really good people that were in fraternities as well.

Having traveled quite a bit, I am sad to say that I have found tools of this quality to be equally represented by the rest of the population at large.

As far as Cohen aka Borat goes, all he has done is rip off a guy from Turkey that has a limited use of the English language, albeit a better understanding of English than I have of Turkish.

Story of the real Borat

Mirror of the REAL Borat's site.