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MrCrisp

MrCrisp

I'm lost
August 2004

NOV 12, 2006 07:57 PM

dkmfc said:

Tersch said:
^^^ at least it was for a good cause.

Like so aptly said in 'V for Vendetta':
"Some lie to cover up the truth, and some lie to bring out the truth"



there is no such thing as a "lie for a good cause".


the point was that even fiction can tell the truth. or was that too simple for me to have to point out?

_Tersch_

_Tersch_

Australia
April 2005

NOV 12, 2006 08:06 PM

dkmfc said:

Tersch said:
^^^ at least it was for a good cause.

Like so aptly said in 'V for Vendetta':
"Some lie to cover up the truth, and some lie to bring out the truth"



there is no such thing as a "lie for a good cause".

there are and were plenty of native americans that could have done that part.

oh wait, I think you need some aborigines for some commercial work in australia.
where do I sign up?



Well if you have the shoe polish, along the dotted line......................

Don't get me wrong, I would have prefered it to have been a true native american though, keep in mind, the message is 'don't litter and be responsible for your own rubbish'. It was not a question about his heritage now was it.
In the fight for the truth, more often than not, the true message is lost.

_Tersch_

_Tersch_

Australia
April 2005

NOV 12, 2006 08:17 PM

dkmfc said:

MrCrisp said:

dkmfc said:

Tersch said:
^^^ at least it was for a good cause.

Like so aptly said in 'V for Vendetta':
"Some lie to cover up the truth, and some lie to bring out the truth"



there is no such thing as a "lie for a good cause".


the point was that even fiction can tell the truth. or was that too simple for me to have to point out?


when one attempts to tell the truth through fiction, one only advances deceit.



"Parable" is what I have to say to you dear sir.

_Tersch_

_Tersch_

Australia
April 2005

NOV 12, 2006 08:21 PM

dkmfc said:
ha.

yeah, I just thought the whole thing odd.

sort of a weird angle the environmentalists were playing...
the native american, so sad that we bad people have ruined his home.
then finding out that he was actually italian.

the fact of the matter is that he is the whole bite to the commercial. so I think it's kind of important.

maybe not, but hey. just seems deceptive and deceitful. even if the message was important. like if they're lying about the little things such as that, what next? an invasion of southwest asia?



I wonder if the producers actually knew that he wasn't a legitimate Native American?

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

I'm lost
August 2004

NOV 12, 2006 08:23 PM

Tersch said:

dkmfc said:

MrCrisp said:
the point was that even fiction can tell the truth. or was that too simple for me to have to point out?


when one attempts to tell the truth through fiction, one only advances deceit.



"Parable" is what I have to say to you dear sir.


exactly.

IKCSmiley

ikcsmiley

Asheville, NC
July 2003

NOV 12, 2006 08:31 PM

neverender said:
I love how most of the commercials footage is from thirty years ago. Its almost as if they are saying "our country" hasnt done shit since then. Martin Luther King, Peace Protests, Lunar Landings, and then KATRINA? WTF?



It's good to know it only took 5 years after 9/11 (and only 1 year after Katrina) for a major American company to exploit those two tragedies in a commercial (and they did it at the same time tongue) Capitalism at it's best!!!

_Tersch_

_Tersch_

Australia
April 2005

NOV 12, 2006 09:00 PM

I respect your standpoint dkmfc, and thankyou for playing biggrin

Though as stated in my previous post I wonder if the producers knew he wasn't a true Native American

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

NOV 12, 2006 09:11 PM

next youll be telling me that the indians in F troop were italians too!

MessyJessy

MessyJessy

Fort Myers, FL
August 2005

NOV 12, 2006 09:17 PM

LuLuKiTTyFoo said:
for those who do not remember...



I would be waaaaaaay more pissed having someone throw that food on me... do you know how much it costs to clean buffalo hide? tongue

ASSH0LE

ASSH0LE

Las Vegas, NV
June 2003

NOV 12, 2006 11:13 PM

attn_ho said:
next youll be telling me that the indians in F troop were italians too!



Or that most of the Nazis in Hogan's Heroes were actually Jews!

Or that Sgt. Schultz (the "good one") had actually served in the German army during WW2.

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