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Alyk

Alyk

Boston, MA
February 2005

SEP 02, 2006 10:06 PM

A year after making headlines for his comments regarding women and postpartum depression, Tom Cruise apologized to Brooke Shields for dragging her into the fray. Last summer while appearing on the Today Show, the actor criticized Shields for taking anti-depressants to fight postpartum depression she experienced after the birth of her first child.

"As far as the Brooke Shields thing, look, you have to understand, I really care about Brooke Shields – she's a wonderful and talented woman, and I want her to do well, and I know psychiatry is a pseudoscience."

After asserting that, psychiatric drugs only "mask the problem," Cruise continued: "The thing that I'm saying about Brooke is that there's misinformation, okay. And she doesn't understand the history of psychiatry. She doesn't understand in the same way that you don't understand it.”


Shortly after the Today Show interview, Shields hit back, responding to Cruises’ claims she should stick to "vitamins and exercise" to fight depression.

"I'm going to take a wild guess and say that Mr. Cruise has never suffered from postpartum depression."


Cruise apparently experienced a change of heart; he stopped by Shield’s home to apologize for his comments. Shields relayed the story during her appearance on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno this week, claiming she felt his apology was heartfelt.

On Thursday, Cruise "came over to my house and he gave me a heartfelt apology," Shields, 41, told Leno. "And he apologized for bringing me into the whole thing and for everything that happened.

"And through it all, I was so impressed with how heartfelt it was. And I didn't feel at any time that I had to defend myself, nor did I feel that he was trying to convince me of anything other than the fact that he was deeply sorry. And I accepted it."


Cruises’ rep backs up Shield’s story.

Cruise's rep, Arnold Robinson, told the Associated Press in a statement, "It is true that his friendship with Ms. Shields has been mended. He has not changed his position about antidepressants, which, as evidenced by the black label warnings issued by the FDA on these types of drugs, are unhealthy."



jake_lex

jake_lex

Lexington, KY
February 2003

SEP 03, 2006 10:03 AM

How does this make him look any better? If he truly believes that Scientology horseshit, why is he apologizing for telling the truth? It's one of those obvious "This makes me look like an asshole, so I'll issue an apology to try to make myself look a little less insane" apologies. Brooke Shields should tell him to stick it up his ass.

It doesn't make him look like a great guy. It makes him look like a hypocrite who will throw his religious beliefs off to the side if they hurt his box office. Douchebag.

noirkiss3

noirkiss3

Minneapolis, MN
April 2006

SEP 03, 2006 10:23 AM

Tom Cruise :Robot or Alien? surreal

_kungfoo_

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA
April 2005

SEP 03, 2006 10:29 AM

HAIL XENU DAMNIT!

zyryx

zyryx

Tyler, TX
April 2004

SEP 03, 2006 11:09 AM

noirkiss3 said:
Tom Cruise :Robot or Alien? surreal



robot asshole or alien jackass?

CaptainHook

CaptainHook

Lansing, MI
December 2005

SEP 03, 2006 11:10 AM

My bet is that Katie Holmes is suffering from postpartum depression. If that's the case, maybe he realized that vitamins and exercise don't do shit for real depression.

If he did see the error of his ways and apologized because he really means it, good for him. If this is the case at least he's man enough to own up to his mistake.

Does it change the fact that he's a complete tool? No.

Personally, I think the real Tom Cruise is chained to a wall in the basement of the Scientology Celebrity Center like the Man in the Iron Mask. The Tom Cruise that's been making an ass out of himself the past few years is a robot whose program has gone bad, kinda like Yul Brynner in Westworld.

Classic literature with a touch of sci-fi slock. It an L Ron Hubbard wet dream come to life.
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Motionboy

Motionboy

Vancouver, BC
January 2004

SEP 03, 2006 11:12 AM

I am no scientologist but I agree that exercise and a healthy lifestyle is much better to combat depression than drugs with a zillion side effects.

ureshii

ureshii

Madison, WI
December 2005

SEP 03, 2006 11:13 AM

he is a fucking nut job

Ryoukansan

Ryoukansan

Picton, ON
September 2005

SEP 03, 2006 11:18 AM

I find it kinda funny that not too much longer after he is dumped by a major film company.. and lets face it, they are likely sick of all his fucking shit and his pycho bable.. so soon after he gets dropped by them maybe that was the light bulb going on telling him he's got to fix his public image..... he's fucking crazy and its starting to cost him money..

and we all know you do not get to that spiritual high spot without dumping money out to these clever bastards that run Scientology

PaulNikon

PaulNikon

Palm Bay, FL
February 2003

SEP 03, 2006 11:33 AM

But he was Maverick! Remember Mav!?!

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MC_Dove

MC_Dove

Cincinnati, OH
November 2004

SEP 03, 2006 11:41 AM

"And through it all, I was so impressed with how heartfelt it was. And I didn't feel at any time that I had to defend myself, nor did I feel that he was trying to convince me of anything other than the fact that he was deeply sorry. And I accepted it."



it was all....ACTING!



thank you!

OctEgon

OctEgon

Tustin, CA
July 2005

SEP 03, 2006 11:45 AM

Scientology is some pretty whacky stuff, but Anti-Depressants can be down right scary.

dholokov

dholokov

Toronto, ON
April 2003

SEP 03, 2006 12:03 PM

Motionboy said:
I am no scientologist but I agree that exercise and a healthy lifestyle is much better to combat depression than drugs with a zillion side effects.



And your degree in psychiatry is from....

MC_Dove

MC_Dove

Cincinnati, OH
November 2004

SEP 03, 2006 12:06 PM

dholokov said:

Motionboy said:
I am no scientologist but I agree that exercise and a healthy lifestyle is much better to combat depression than drugs with a zillion side effects.



And your degree in psychiatry is from....



exactly.

lolly

lolly

Madison, WI
April 2004

SEP 03, 2006 12:09 PM

I wish Tom Cruise would post on some message board so I could call him a n00b.

Vestril

Vestril

Coronado, CA
February 2003

SEP 03, 2006 12:10 PM

dholokov said:

Motionboy said:
I am no scientologist but I agree that exercise and a healthy lifestyle is much better to combat depression than drugs with a zillion side effects.



And your degree in psychiatry is from....



I would have thought most psychiatrists who had patients with unhealthy lifestyles would recommend that they change them. Living well is certainly a much better approach to combating depression than drugs. If it works. If it doesn't, medication might do the trick, and for some people medication is the way to get to a healthy lifestyle.

BurningKrome

BurningKrome

San Jose, CA
April 2005

SEP 03, 2006 12:23 PM

Vestril said:

dholokov said:

Motionboy said:
I am no scientologist but I agree that exercise and a healthy lifestyle is much better to combat depression than drugs with a zillion side effects.



And your degree in psychiatry is from....



I would have thought most psychiatrists who had patients with unhealthy lifestyles would recommend that they change them. Living well is certainly a much better approach to combating depression than drugs. If it works. If it doesn't, medication might do the trick, and for some people medication is the way to get to a healthy lifestyle.


Exercise and diet can assist with mild depression, however it is not going to correct moderate to severe depression caused by malfunctioning serotonin or GABA receptors...which, when left untreated, create a negative feedback cycle and cause mild depressions to turn into moderate depressions and moderate depressions to turn into severe depressions.

MC_Dove

MC_Dove

Cincinnati, OH
November 2004

SEP 03, 2006 12:26 PM

BurningKrome said:

Vestril said:

dholokov said:

Motionboy said:
I am no scientologist but I agree that exercise and a healthy lifestyle is much better to combat depression than drugs with a zillion side effects.



And your degree in psychiatry is from....



I would have thought most psychiatrists who had patients with unhealthy lifestyles would recommend that they change them. Living well is certainly a much better approach to combating depression than drugs. If it works. If it doesn't, medication might do the trick, and for some people medication is the way to get to a healthy lifestyle.


Exercise and diet can assist with mild depression, however it is not going to correct moderate to severe depression caused by malfunctioning serotonin or GABA receptors...which, when left untreated, create a negative feedback cycle and cause mild depressions to turn into moderate depressions and moderate depressions to turn into severe depressions.



exactly. people confuse clinical depression with regular ol' being bummed out. people who are moderately to severly clinically depressed have a hard enough time taking a shower over the course of a month, no less hitting the gym three times a week.

noirkiss3

noirkiss3

Minneapolis, MN
April 2006

SEP 03, 2006 12:30 PM

Motionboy said:
I am no scientologist but I agree that exercise and a healthy lifestyle is much better to combat depression than drugs with a zillion side effects.


For generalize depression yes, but there are many people who need more than that.

2greyhills

2greyhills

Charlotte, NC
August 2006

SEP 03, 2006 12:36 PM

funny how this comes after viacom drops cruise's produciton company from the inflated payroll. however, i think we're all missing the point. tom cruise is a nut. eeek

jonzes

jonzes

Madison, WI
July 2003

SEP 03, 2006 12:38 PM

noirkiss3 said:
Tom Cruise :Robot or Alien? surreal



Neither, an alien or a robot could better imitate human behavior. He's just a ritch jackass.

Vestril

Vestril

Coronado, CA
February 2003

SEP 03, 2006 12:43 PM

Dove said:

BurningKrome said:

Vestril said:

dholokov said:

Motionboy said:
I am no scientologist but I agree that exercise and a healthy lifestyle is much better to combat depression than drugs with a zillion side effects.



And your degree in psychiatry is from....



I would have thought most psychiatrists who had patients with unhealthy lifestyles would recommend that they change them. Living well is certainly a much better approach to combating depression than drugs. If it works. If it doesn't, medication might do the trick, and for some people medication is the way to get to a healthy lifestyle.


Exercise and diet can assist with mild depression, however it is not going to correct moderate to severe depression caused by malfunctioning serotonin or GABA receptors...which, when left untreated, create a negative feedback cycle and cause mild depressions to turn into moderate depressions and moderate depressions to turn into severe depressions.



exactly. people confuse clinical depression with regular ol' being bummed out. people who are moderately to severly clinically depressed have a hard enough time taking a shower over the course of a month, no less hitting the gym three times a week.



Both comments seem to reflect my points, so I'm glad we all agree.

jake_lex

jake_lex

Lexington, KY
February 2003

SEP 03, 2006 12:57 PM

The problem with Cruise's anti-psychiatry comments is his motives. If he were saying it to get people to seriously question the use of so many psychiatric drugs, that's fine, and fair. But he's doing it with the intent of replacing that with going to some storefront "center" in a strip mall to let members of his wackjob UFO cult have you hold on to two tin cans to tell you that alien ghosts are causing all your problems.

He's being glib.

ekelly

ekelly

Ann Arbor, MI
May 2006

SEP 03, 2006 12:58 PM

he's an asshole, and I love how he doesn't let anyone see how short he is in his movies.

dholokov

dholokov

Toronto, ON
April 2003

SEP 03, 2006 01:29 PM

Vestril said:

dholokov said:

Motionboy said:
I am no scientologist but I agree that exercise and a healthy lifestyle is much better to combat depression than drugs with a zillion side effects.



And your degree in psychiatry is from....



I would have thought most psychiatrists who had patients with unhealthy lifestyles would recommend that they change them. Living well is certainly a much better approach to combating depression than drugs. If it works. If it doesn't, medication might do the trick, and for some people medication is the way to get to a healthy lifestyle.



hmmm, that is a stronger counterpoint than I had anticipated. On the other hand, the first post was phrased as an absolute, it is possible that perscribing doctors are able to determine when the drugs are the best treatment and when they are not (I don't think anyone here is an expert on the subject), and going by my girlfriend's experience, the best way to combat depression is neither pillls nor exercise but chocolate fudge sundays and long distance phone calls to mother.

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