NEWS: Mel Gibson Doesn't Care About Jewish People

Yeah, he TAPED him first (not videotaped) as I said. From the original report:

So, yeah, the guys assertion that he was only taped after the officer realized who had busted was pretty much bullshit.

Well, yeah, I don't KNOW that he didn't ask for a Kondike Bar either, but I'm not the one claiming that something happened which there is no evidence for...
BTW, you obviously didn't look very hard, since there was a link to the police report right in the story in the OP!

Um, no. By all accounts he started in on the Jews way before he asked the guy if he was Jewish. He first said "the Jews are responsible for all the wars" BEFORE he asked the cop if he were a Jew. He would have said anti semitic shit whether the cop was a Mormon, a Hindu or whatever. He's an antisemite, and this probably isn't the first time he's spewed this shit.

Nice of everyone to be so willing to give him a third or fourth chance, though.

Reading is fundamental.

"the guys assertion that he was only taped after the officer realized who had busted was pretty much bullshit." Pointblank

Sorry guy I never made an assertion like that and no one else has in this thread, you know that so why say it. Don't make stuff up man its too easy to show it's not true.

I said that he called ahead to have it VIDEOTAPED. You agree and your source agrees. (TMZ.com) You in response to my comment stated he was taped on the way to the station. Now that is a cool bit of sophistry to claim my correct statement about the VIDEOTAPING can somehow now be contorted into a statement concerning an AUDIO tape and be further twisted into the statement - "the guys assertion that he was only taped after the officer realized who had busted was pretty much bullshit." Never said that dude, maybe that is what you heard but I never said it. Like I said before you have to be less defensive and listen to what I'm saying and not what you think I'm saying.

You're gonna hate this man - 43% of people responding to a TMZ.com survey say they still love Mel.

BUT

42% people also agree the deputy did the right thing. Good for them! Too bad the 2 other deputies who stopped Mel prior to this stop didn't do their job and give him the citation back then.

Then tell me why you would even bring up the fact that he called ahead to have it videotaped? There is no point to bring that up, except to claim that the officer wanted to embarass the man...when, in fact, he already had him on audio tape! Why even bring up the fact that he called ahead? That makes no difference! If you think differently, please let me know how it matters whether (after already having racist shit on tape) he wanted him videoed. Sorry if I construed that that was an attempt of yours to claim that the officer wanted attention, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why that matters.

Next , show me where it says that Mel asked if he was Jewish, and the officer said "Yep" (especially before Mel started disparaging Jews). That was another part that I called you out on. I've admitted that the evidence shows that video was requested, maybe you should admit that you made that up.

You accuse me of caring too much about castigating the man. Answer this: why do you care so much about defending him? Why do you disbelieve he's a racist after making racist statements, yet take him at his word when he claims (through a mouthpiece) to be an alcoholic?

What I said was "I didn't see anything . . . contrary to what's in the Bible," not that there was no embellishment. I also enjoyed The Ten Commandments, but it was mostly embellishment and veers far from the Biblical account. But who cares? The point is, in the Gospel accounts, the more powerful Jews saw Jesus, quite understandably, as a threat to their power. And imagine somehting like him nowadays. Just look at anything that isn't "traditaional" Christian and see how "Christians" respond. Look at any group of people and observe how they respond to anyone who may threaten their Faith, or power, or numbers, or whatever. I can't imagine Jews not finding Jesus subsversive, and Biblically, many did. And the link you posted cites things such as:

"Pilate, a Roman governor, is shocked by the appearance of Jesus after the scourging. "

Um, I would probably have been, too. A normal reaction, particularly to someone who only reluctantly agrees at the prodding of . . whom? . . . to put Jesus to death.

My point was not that Passion was a verbatim account of the Biblical account. Of course there's added stuff. It's just not contrary to the Biblical accounts.

My point WAS that Mel has shown himself NOW to be anti-Semitic.

Hahaha
PointBlank I point out your lying and making things up and you respond by making up more things, you’re a tool.

“Then tell me why you would even bring up the fact that he called ahead to have it videotaped? There is no point to bring that up, except to claim that the officer wanted to embarrass the man...when, in fact, he already had him on audio tape! Why even bring up the fact that he called ahead? That makes no difference! If you think differently, please let me know how it matters whether (after already having racist shit on tape) he wanted him videoed. Sorry if I construed that that was an attempt of yours to claim that the officer wanted attention, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why that matters.”

I brought it up because that is what happened. I brought it up because it shows how smart the deputy was to realize this was going to be a big shit storm and guess who drowns in shit storms? Not the guy with $750 million who probably knows every single one of the deputy’s bosses by their first name and who already had been let go at least two other times we know of on traffic stops. No without proof the deputy would have been fucked just like Mel was threatening to do during this bust. Unlike you who thinks this is about Mel saying “Jews started all the wars” the deputy rightfully realized Mel’s outrageous drunken behavior should be recorded so it could be shown how out of control he was – making a sprint to his car after the deputy told him he was taking him in to the station, sugartits, banging his body around against the inside the car, slamming the phone receiver, threatening the deputy he was going to fuck him (since Mel doesn’t like gays I’ll assume he means fuck the deputy’s career and not the deputy) – this was like an episode out of COPS. Again he did it to have proof that the DUI bust was legitimate and to prove how out of control Mel was, not to embarrass Mel. After all this was a DUI bust not a – aha I have the bastard on tape making anti-Jewish remarks bust.

“Next , show me where it says that Mel asked if he was Jewish, and the officer said "Yep" (especially before Mel started disparaging Jews). That was another part that I called you out on. I've admitted that the evidence shows that video was requested, maybe you should admit that you made that up.”

Dude I did hear correctly he asked the question and the deputy did respond in the affirmative. Just check TMZ.com the original story states very clearly he did ask. What I did get wrong was the order - first he said F Jews, then they started all the wars, and then he asked the deputy. When I originally heard the report I assumed the order was reversed, my mistake for assuming that but I didn’t make it up like you accuse me off.

“You accuse me of caring too much about castigating the man. Answer this: why do you care so much about defending him? Why do you disbelieve he's a racist after making racist statements, yet take him at his word when he claims (through a mouthpiece) to be an alcoholic?”

I have never defended him why again are you making things up. From the beginning I have talked about the usual dumb ass behavior exhibited by alcoholics/addicts and this seemed to be another case of that behavior. If you’ve never experienced that behavior watch COPS and learn. Who cares what the mouthpieces said I have enough personal experience with alcoholics/addicts to reach the conclusion myself based on Mel’s history of drunken behavior and all of his asshole behavior during the stop and bust. I could be wrong but I don’t think so. And no I never accused you of caring too much about castigating the man – I accused you of getting all twisted that you attacked other people and made shit up about what they said because they didn’t agree with your conclusion that Mel was anti-Semitic. As I said before dude you want to believe that go right ahead I won’t argue that he is not. What I will argue though is that this episode demonstrates the actions of an out of control and dangerous alcoholic/addict. Does it also demonstrate the ravings of an anti-Semite? Don’t know and don’t care, I’ll leave that determination to Mel’s Jewish friends, co-workers who actually know the guy.