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Max16Characters

Max16Characters

Korea, Republic Of
March 2003

JUL 23, 2006 04:59 PM

^^^Why? Is there a dirth of nude children in European movies?

JohnClement

JohnClement

Silver Spring, MD
January 2004

JUL 23, 2006 08:37 PM

Alyk said:

Hooraydiation said:
Why does a 12 year old need an Oscar anyway? Seems to me that the benefits of having one are lost on someone who's too young to vie for roles that demand Oscar caliber actresses. And when she is old enough, how relevant will an Oscar she earned as a child be anyway when she doesn't even look or act the same way she did when she won it?



Because it worked out oh-so-well for Tatum O'Neil.



Worked out okay for Anna Paquin.

apesamongus

apesamongus

Atlanta, GA
July 2002

JUL 23, 2006 09:17 PM

Wren said:
Brooke Shields, right? The same Brooke Shields who spoke very publicly about treating depression with Paxil?


Postpartum depression.

apesamongus

apesamongus

Atlanta, GA
July 2002

JUL 23, 2006 09:26 PM

crispy said:
I don't care about the stioryline or whatever, but this does not have to be SHOWN to have an impact ... it can be implied in many ways without actually having a twelve year old girl strip fucking naked and be "raped" onscreen.


Your opinion. The director obviously thinks it will be a better move if it is shown. Several respected actors are part of the cast so apparently they agree.

feneon

feneon

Portland, OR
January 2005

JUL 24, 2006 03:46 AM

apesamongus said:

crispy said:
I don't care about the stioryline or whatever, but this does not have to be SHOWN to have an impact ... it can be implied in many ways without actually having a twelve year old girl strip fucking naked and be "raped" onscreen.


Your opinion. The director obviously thinks it will be a better move if it is shown. Several respected actors are part of the cast so apparently they agree.




Yes, and lord knows directors and actors always make great decisions.

whatever

NewSpectre

NewSpectre

Baltimore, MD
March 2005

JUL 24, 2006 05:46 AM

I can't HELP but wonder. Will the photos from the film end up on the various "celebrity nude photos" websites? If so, is that even legal?

Wren

Wren

SUICIDEGIRL

Minnesota, USA

JUL 24, 2006 06:18 AM

apesamongus said:

Wren said:
Brooke Shields, right? The same Brooke Shields who spoke very publicly about treating depression with Paxil?


Postpartum depression.



Ah. My mistake.

LadyCakes

LadyCakes

USA
February 2006

JUL 24, 2006 09:29 AM

Max16Characters said:
^^^Why? Is there a dirth of nude children in European movies?



Well I just figure the Europeans are generally less sexually repressed, or more comfortable with nudity in general than some other parts of the world (namely the US).

ASSH0LE

ASSH0LE

Las Vegas, NV
June 2003

JUL 24, 2006 09:53 AM

crispy said:
I'm starting to think that Asshole really wants to see Dakota Fanning naked.



Fuck you very much.

I could honestly give a shit about the film. And have yourself a look up at the picture at the beginning of the thread. What's there to really want to see?

I'm just not quite ready to leap to judgement about this film. Apparently, that's more your speed.

The facts are that the motion picture industry and American media is still basically stuck in the Post-Wardrobe-Malfunction era. I don't foresee this movie showing anything that'd get raise TOO MANY eyebrows too far. Or worse yet (given who runs the D.o.J.) get them unwanted attention from the authorities. The kid is already a star. I'd suspect that she's got some kind of management that has a remote idea of what it's doing.

This sort of film if done wrong is carreer death. Whatever kid from Saved by the Bell that did that film (Showgirls?) tried to break out of the kid/teen-star orbit by doing that, and it basically ended her carreer. Albeit by being a dog-awful film versus being an exploitative film with a too-young kid.

America's largest generation (baby boomers) are largely parents moving into grandparents. Even if they aren't the largest demographic, they are basically a good guide for the moral compass of the country. If they disapprove of seeing kids naked in films, it's likely nobody'll see it.

If I had to guess, I'd say that someone's floating trial balloons for this film. They see how repulsed people get, then they make cuts in the film so it can get released, and then it draws a bigger audience from the morbid curiousity (and yeah, the sicko demographic).

ASSH0LE

ASSH0LE

Las Vegas, NV
June 2003

JUL 24, 2006 10:04 AM

LadyKatharine said:
Okay so after that long spouting off I will have to agree with Hancelove and say yes, from the outside view Brooke did turn out ok in regards to her role in Pretty Baby.



In regard to that film, possibly just fine. In regard to a stage mother that more or less exploited her in every other way but (I'd presume) sexually and a dead carreer, probably less than OK.

And in regard to her career, it probably got further than it needed to due to Pretty Baby (more accurately just the attention the film got) and Blue Lagoon (which was mostly aimed at horny teens, to my recollection, though I'm sure older pervs came along for the ride).

Another thing I was thinking about: I wonder what the comments would look like if the vast majority of us were European.



Depends on the country, I should think. But yes, there'd be considerably less reaction to it, and what reaction there was wouldn't be quite so exaggerated.

ASSH0LE

ASSH0LE

Las Vegas, NV
June 2003

JUL 24, 2006 10:07 AM

crispy said:

LadyKatharine said:
Wow, why are you so...testy?


Because he's so adamant that this is an okay thing to do.

And it's that time of the month, or something.



I've never been adamant that this is an OK thing to do. I'm simply saying it's POSSIBLE that this could be an OK thing to do, depending on the matter in which it's done.

I'm not ready to fall for the hype machine's one sentence depiction of scenes they haven't actually seen themselves. And given the nature of the film, it's a safe bet they haven't seen any bit of it.

ASSH0LE

ASSH0LE

Las Vegas, NV
June 2003

JUL 24, 2006 10:09 AM

Max16Characters said:
Supposedly what they're talking about in this Dakota Fanning movie is not having a body double. Yet, we don't seem to have much to go on the subject save the one article.

Maybe it will be handled well..maybe not. Thee subject matter itself is very icky and would make me extremely uncomfortable.



BINGO.

Big_Slikk

Big_Slikk

Anchorage, AK
April 2005

JUL 24, 2006 11:19 PM

That is so wrong! I think Dakota is a great little actress but underage nudity? WTF? at least use a body double. Anyone seen Matchstick Men? Alison Lohman might be able to play the character even.

She acts like a 14yr old but Alison was like 23 or something when she filmed it!

Doxie

Doxie

SUICIDEGIRL

Oregon, USA

JUL 26, 2006 06:10 PM

That is very unfortunate. I can understand the need for the rape scene. That kind of thing happens & it's not ok to just "sweep it under the rug" and pretend it doesn't happen. But I don't feel that there is absolutely ANY need for 12-year-old nudity displayed in a sexual way... eeek

Spaceboy

Spaceboy

Dallas, TX
October 2004

JUL 26, 2006 08:01 PM

Doxie said:
That is very unfortunate. I can understand the need for the rape scene. That kind of thing happens & it's not ok to just "sweep it under the rug" and pretend it doesn't happen. But I don't feel that there is absolutely ANY need for 12-year-old nudity displayed in a sexual way... eeek



I concur. I think there are plenty of ways of filming something like this that have enough impact without making a twelve year old endure a simulated rape.

halfjack

halfjack

Allston, MA
June 2005

JUL 26, 2006 10:39 PM

rape = trauma. not oscar. it's a cheap move

halfjack

halfjack

Allston, MA
June 2005

JUL 26, 2006 10:42 PM

HOWEVER, i just checked out the director through imdb and i realized i knew her. not personally, but i saw the other movie she directed, Virgin and it is one of my favorite movies. it did contain a rape scene in it as well, and it was not terribly disturbing, though the event itself shaped the entire story. i'm gonna go ahead and say I BELIEVE IT WILL BE HANDLED WELL.

RedBstrd

RedBstrd

Riverside, CA
April 2004

JUL 27, 2006 04:53 AM

I absolutely will not be watching this movie, regardless of how much I like Elvis. They should have used a body-double.

guyincognito

GuyIncognito

Minneapolis, MN
September 2004

JUL 27, 2006 11:02 AM

This sequel to War of Worlds sounds like it's getting out of control?

Aliens raping humans?

What will the UN say?

Hooraydiation

Hooraydiation

Boston, MA
October 2005

JUL 27, 2006 11:13 AM

RedBstrd said:
I absolutely will not be watching this movie, regardless of how much I like Elvis. They should have used a body-double.



Wouldn't a body double for a pre-teen girl be another pre-teen girl?

RedBstrd

RedBstrd

Riverside, CA
April 2004

JUL 27, 2006 04:04 PM

Hooraydiation said:

RedBstrd said:
I absolutely will not be watching this movie, regardless of how much I like Elvis. They should have used a body-double.



Wouldn't a body double for a pre-teen girl be another pre-teen girl?



Not necessarily. They could use a girl who simply looks that age. Even a 16 year old girl would be a major improvement.

dancer29

dancer29

HOPEFUL

San Diego, CA

JUL 28, 2006 11:07 AM

oh my GOD...give that girl a childhood, why don't you...

NewSpectre

NewSpectre

Baltimore, MD
March 2005

JUL 28, 2006 11:23 AM

BillHaverchuck said:

Alyk said:

Hooraydiation said:
Why does a 12 year old need an Oscar anyway? Seems to me that the benefits of having one are lost on someone who's too young to vie for roles that demand Oscar caliber actresses. And when she is old enough, how relevant will an Oscar she earned as a child be anyway when she doesn't even look or act the same way she did when she won it?



Because it worked out oh-so-well for Tatum O'Neil.



Worked out okay for Anna Paquin.



now if only SHE would do some nudity....Life would be good

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