what I wanted to say about SG was I turned it from "love it" to "hate it"
and this is pretty much why: (exerpt from my journal)
Are people on here getting ruder, or am I just being pigeonholed?
...I wish Calixte would actually become a suicide girl, I think she's the only one that'd actually return my messages.
Be Prepared: Rant Coming
I haven't had a chance to look through a lot of the sets lately, you know, because of work, school, Dasha (that's not a bad thing), my little trip, getting the team organized for this year, writing the album, getting the album out there, etc. So I finally get a chance to sit down and look at some of the sets. And you know what, I write a little note to some of the girls who I think really, really have amazing sets.
And you know what I noticed?
I know I've only been here since January, but the girls just don't reply anymore! Am I being pigeonholed as a pervert? You know maybe if you talked to me, you'd get that I'm definitely not one! As Calixte might know, I'm a simple boy, not into smoking, drinking, or drugs, rather artistic, into drag racing and cars, and generally low key. Oh, and I'm a one woman man. She would definitely be a party to knowing how jealous I can get a la "get your hands off of my woman, motherfucker" darkness style. What can I say, the woman I love, is the woman I love. That doesn't mean I can't point out to a certain suicide girl if she has a really good set. And that doesn't mean that girl can't reply to me.
The whole reason Alukh, Aiden, and Wednesday are on my favorites list is because they were polite enough, even friendly enough to start up a conversation with me. I really appreciate that.
What really burns my ass, is that from day one Grant told me that this is a really awesome and friendly online community, and I'm just not feelin' it. Sorry. The worst part is that I actually feel that no one is replying to me because I am a heterosexual male. I feel like if I grew a nice pair of tits (and believe me, I would if I could, that would be awesome), a vagina, and kept my sincere liking of girls, that I'd actually get a little more respect. Now I don't want to get into the arguments of "oh yeah well, take it bitch, we've lived for years in a patriarchal society, now you know how it feels to be discriminated against" because for one, I've never discriminated against women at any time. I'm 23, I'm not part of the generation that thinks women should be in the home, and hates gay people and certain ethnic groups. I think NO ONE should be discriminated against for any reason. That aside, maybe I do feel a little discriminated against. And yeah, it's unwarranted. I think I've been the perfect gentleman.
Props to anyone who actually does reply to me. You are golden
anyone else feel this way? Or do I just feel like this because i'm going through my little PMS fit these last two weeks.
I know how you feel (well actually I don't have a penis) but we can all feel a little like that here sometimes. Consider the fact that some SG's probably get loads of messages to reply to and they, like you, might have loads of stuff on their mind, be too busy, forget etc. It's only human.
Give it some time, you've only been here a couple of months.
I'm a simple boy, not into smoking, drinking, or drugs, rather artistic, into drag racing and cars, and generally low key.
That's why, dude.
You're boring.
I'm totally kidding, by the way.
I know that personally, I try to respond to every message in my set and my journal. However, rather than cut and paste a generic reply, I like to leave something personal so it takes me a very long time.
And I'm ALWAYS on this site.
It's not that us girls are ignoring you, dude. It's that we get a lot of comments. And some girls have limited internet access or time to spend on the site. It's really difficult to respond to every comment every person makes in every journal or set.
The best way to get a response is to say something funny, something interesting. Don't be generic, be engaging, and generally you'll get a response.
I see where you're coming from. I really do. Part of the reason this site is so awesome is that the models interact with you. But just so you're aware, we don't get paid to interact with members or be on the site. We frequent this site because we want to, and we talk to whomever we want to. Sometimes I only respond to my real life friends' comments in my journal, because that's all I have time for.
I doubt anyone is actively trying to ignore you. It just...happens, you know?
Dicey said:
I know how you feel (well actually I don't have a penis) but we can all feel a little like that here sometimes. Consider the fact that some SG's probably get loads of messages to reply to and they, like you, might have loads of stuff on their mind, be too busy, forget etc. It's only human.
Give it some time, you've only been here a couple of months.
yeah, i do certainly consider that. Of course I'd never go back and message someone again and be like "why the fuck didn't you message me back?!"
And true, I am leaving messages on recent photosets. So I guess patience is key, but after a while it's like "everyone can't still be busy can they?"
i don't know a lot of people on here, guess that's why it feels wierd to post things up on the boards. Actually this is really the first time i've posted up on the boards. I haven't really learned the ettiquite. Didn't want to offend anyone if I posted a thread that had already been posted a million times, or was something that people just don't find interesting around here.
Lucy: obviously I know the models don't get paid to talk to you. But I didn't know that there was a hierarchy like
1.models
2.photographers
3.people who have been here a long time
4. me
I thought it was like, a community where although the girls do model for the enjoyment of the paying customers that are members, that generally we all got to interact. I was basically told by my friend who got me to sign up, that this was the best and friendliest online community there is. I was really interested in seeing that dynamic. I've seen it somewhat but I don't know if it sort of exceeds the way a lot of other communities operate. Well, maybe I don't know about that, but I will say I'm not sure it's lived up to the expectations that he set when I signed up. I still feel sort of segregated in some ways.
Well, you've been here as long as me and you have a) less comments on the boards and b) less friends. So, I'd say get involved!
And I'm sure the SGs get tonnes of comments everyday and may not have time to reply to them. In fact, some SGs actually have lives outside of this site! Wow. Amazing, huh?
I agree with Lucy. When my set went up, the people who commented on it for the first couple of days got personalized---and romanticized responses fromme. I even gave them thankyou balloons. It took many hours. Sometimes I mean to respond to my comments on my journal, but I often times get caught up in somene else's page and then end up on the boards and the groups etc and totally forget where I was. Yeah, I have no attention span
Also, you could post on the "want more comments in your journal?" thread. I've done it and gained a friend or two.
Believe me, we loves us some heterosexual mens around here
hearse83 said:
hmmm okay comments on the last two replies
i don't know a lot of people on here, guess that's why it feels wierd to post things up on the boards. Actually this is really the first time i've posted up on the boards. I haven't really learned the ettiquite. Didn't want to offend anyone if I posted a thread that had already been posted a million times, or was something that people just don't find interesting around here.
Lucy: obviously I know the models don't get paid to talk to you. But I didn't know that there was a hierarchy like
1.models
2.photographers
3.people who have been here a long time
4. me
I thought it was like, a community where although the girls do model for the enjoyment of the paying customers that are members, that generally we all got to interact. I was basically told by my friend who got me to sign up, that this was the best and friendliest online community there is. I was really interested in seeing that dynamic. I've seen it somewhat but I don't know if it sort of exceeds the way a lot of other communities operate. Well, maybe I don't know about that, but I will say I'm not sure it's lived up to the expectations that he set when I signed up. I still feel sort of segregated in some ways.
Dude, forget heirarchy, you're whining.
When you first get to a bar you've never been to, do all the regulars jump up and go, "HEARSE83!" No, take your time, ease in. Get on the boards and participate, and in 6 weeks you won't be able to remember a time when you weren't a member here.
I'm not trying to bust balls, I'm just telling you how it is.
Yeah. After I read your response I was like "dude. stop it." We all were new at one time. It's never easy to gain multiple friendships with strangers. It takes effort!
well i know i'm whining, i'm not out to get journal hits or anything. I was just wondering if there was a change in the site, or if it was just me.
i totally get the board/bar analogy. makes sense. I have joined some groups but they're not extremely active. SGCanadaWest is mainly my friends, and I'm also a really big car nut, which just doesn't seem to have that many fans around here (the hot rod group is dead, dead, dead)
but yeah, i totally get what you guys are saying, get involved is the answer.
i think you forgot somewhere that for the majority of us members here, we're just a picture and a name. do you realize how hard it is for a picture and a name to stick out on a HUGE list of pictures and names?
not to beat a dead horse, but fuck it. you've got to make an effort to get noticed. try not to complain so much when doing so and things will be enjoyable at least.
yeah, i get it. i get what you guys are saying totally. like i said, i'm also pms'ing this week, or something, so i am being whiney for some reason. something is just bugging the hell out of me and i'm not sure what it is.
not to beat a dead horse, but fuck it. you've got to make an effort to get noticed. try not to complain so much when doing so and things will be enjoyable at least.
This is true...look at me...but I also feel a silent hatred for the things I do by many
I don't reply to a lot of the comments I get on my journals. I try to answer the email I receive but usually I don't get to all the comments. I don't get very many replies when I comment, but I always felt that I was just dropping a note for the person to read. I never really expect replies to my comments.
Is it proper etiquette to reply to all comments? I don't want anyone to feel slighted!
hearse83
Edmonton, AB
January 2006
APR 24, 2006 04:57 PM