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Thistle

Thistle

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JAN 05, 2013 12:06 AM

Scotty said:
Having said that though, maybe it's just me that sees the possible confusion, and followers on Instagram are a lot smarter than I'm giving them credit for.....



I see what you're saying now, and yeah that might be confusing especially for people who don't know what Let's Date is. I am glad they're not using SG pics for the Let's Date promos though!

Merdrak

Merdrak

Germany
February 2012

JAN 05, 2013 11:42 PM

Realistically, there are just too many idiots out there that should know better, but just don't give a damn - and that's the problem. There's no personal accountability where their actions are concerned - they don't see the women they do this to as people, because they haven't met them, and they don't want to admit they are wrong because of that. You also have to consider the anonymity that we allow here. We don't exactly go by full names or anything, and understandably so - but because of that, there are individuals out there who go "they'll never know who I am, so fuck it" and be the epitome of human slime.


Vassilis

Vassilis

SUICIDEGIRL

South Africa

JAN 05, 2013 11:55 PM

baudot said:
Anytime someone invents a new tag, their name is associated with it from then on. So when a user uses tags to describe how "PG" sets are in a new way, you can see who did it. If you click a tag, and it shows only one set ever tagged that way, odds are the name you saw just invented it.

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Unless it was used before and deleted then.


So you can often see who's doing this with a click or two. You can spot one or two on todays set of the day already. I see one of our most persistent boors is up to his usual.

That being said, I suspect an attempt to publicly pillory these users will sometimes work.... and sometimes cause a high drama backlash. That would rather defeat the point of trying to make the site a more pleasant place for everyone.

There was a policy/subroutine early in the days of tags that if three of your tags were deleted, your tagging privileges were revoked for several months.

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I presume that's not in place anymore, since all the tags I linked in the original post have been wiped, and yet the people posting them are still putting up new tags.

That policy did tend to hit everyone who tagged, just taking longer to hit the more responsible taggers, and hitting the worse and more prolific taggers sooner.

I imagine a variation on this approach might help: Age out one 'bad' tag from each user's tally every few months, so users tagging responsibly wouldn't hit the limit. And flag anyone who hit the limit for mod review to see if they needed a "that's not how we do things around here" form letter, or in the most extreme cases, a tap from the hammer of zot.



Forgive me if I am wrong, but is it not the first person to use that tag has their name associated with the tag?

for instance, if you had to use my arbitrary tag 'flying squirrel', it wont say baudot did the tag, it will still come up as Vassilis.

Therefore, it is potentially possible that the one person is not using the tag, more that one person is using the tag. So one person can loose tagging rights even though joesoap is using the tag.

baudot

baudot

Oakland, CA
February 2004

JAN 06, 2013 09:21 AM

The person who invented the tag has their name shown under it. Back when they used to ban people for having the girls veto their tags, (I may be wrong about this) it was the person who posted the tag, not who invented it, who had their tagging privileges suspended. If it worked the other way... well, yes, that would put the tag-ban on the wrong person more often than not.

Thistle

Thistle

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JAN 06, 2013 09:17 PM

I'd love a refresher from staff on how tags are monitored and whether people are still banned from tagging.

baudot

baudot

Oakland, CA
February 2004

JAN 07, 2013 02:56 AM

Agreed.

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

JAN 07, 2013 01:11 PM

The FAQ still says that girls can turn off tagging on their sets so that only they can tag them. I assume that's not the case?

Asio

Asio

SUICIDEGIRL

Germany

JAN 08, 2013 05:55 AM

I think you can still do that, as girls can also delete tags from their sets but no tagging at all would result in your set not being traceable via tag search.

Thistle

Thistle

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JAN 08, 2013 10:06 AM

Asio said:
I think you can still do that, as girls can also delete tags from their sets but no tagging at all would result in your set not being traceable via tag search.



Yeah, it's kind of like throwing out the baby with the bathwater. I want members to be able to tag my sets because often they tag with something I wouldn't have thought of and that means they're into my set enough to want to be able to search for it. I just don't want people to tag rude things.

SilverSurfer

SilverSurfer

MODERATOR

Chicago, IL

JAN 08, 2013 04:46 PM

Here's a brief summary of how tagging works. Thanks to everyone who already raised all these points in this thread.

- The name next to the tag is the original author of the tag. All subsequent uses will be attributed to the originator, not the last person to leave the tag.

- Members can have their tagging privileges suspended by moderators or staff. The person suspended is the original author of the tag.

- SGs can turn off tagging on their sets, so that only they can tag them. But most SGs don't want to throw out the baby with the bathwater, as Thistle and Asio said.

- If an SG leaves tagging turned on for her sets, she can still remove individual tags from a set.

semiretiredpunk

semiretiredpunk

USA
March 2007

JAN 08, 2013 05:38 PM

FreakPirate said:

Morrigan said:

I had a Burkha and considered doing a set like that but...I really didn't need that drama. Was tempted though.



So, you're not ruling out a full set of plate mail? I'm asking... for a friend...



That's actually an awesome idea for a set if anyone has a suit of armor or knows someone that does. I don't think it's been done. The only set tagged "armor" was more like a Frank Frazetta getup.

Merdrak

Merdrak

Germany
February 2012

JAN 08, 2013 06:53 PM

SilverSurfer said:
Here's a brief summary of how tagging works. Thanks to everyone who already raised all these points in this thread.

- The name next to the tag is the original author of the tag. All subsequent uses will be attributed to the originator, not the last person to leave the tag.

- Members can have their tagging privileges suspended by moderators or staff. The person suspended is the original author of the tag.

- SGs can turn off tagging on their sets, so that only they can tag them. But most SGs don't want to throw out the baby with the bathwater, as Thistle and Asio said.

- If an SG leaves tagging turned on for her sets, she can still remove individual tags from a set.



Which, in essence, leaves the ladies to either self-moderate their tags, and ensure it gets reported to the site staff to deal with the asshats, or else they have to have those who like the sets inform them of what they tags they'd like to see added, and have to tag them all themselves, neither of which is a practical option. That being said, the main way to continue would be doing it how it's done now - and unfortunately, that allows the tags to still be made, and keeps moderators like yourself busy.

The only way I can think of to improve this issue is to implement an approval system. If they reject a tag, with a small explanation attached (necessary evil), it gets sent to mod/staff and from there, user punishment as decided by staff/moderators. I realize it's a bit of an extreme reaction, however, it's an idea. After all, there's no reason to be tagging rude things on a set when these ladies are expressing themselves. If they don't like the chosen form of expression, they don't have to view it.

urza666

urza666

United Kingdom
December 2012

JAN 09, 2013 01:47 AM

well said my good man, i have to say some of the most sexy pics are the ones that do not show all. plus Essence only needs to show her smile and wings, that works for me just fine.love

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