What is happening to SG?

So first off I want to say I'm a casual site user, but I joined like most everyone else because the idea of a site where people can be themselves and be original truly appealed to me and aside from the actual photos, the minds and thoughts on the site from the members and especially the SGs were fresh and open.

But over the past 2 years it has been interesting to read from SGs in particular how much the site has changed and maybe overall how much the site has driven away from its original intention toward something more conservative and reserved. From less risque sets, to obnoxious members tags and comments being allowed, to feelings of rejection for not fitting the mold, to changes in set acceptance percentages, to similar sets being accepted over and over again, to poor site design...and the girls and members who have the most fun here ultimately lose out as the original intention of the site seems to move further behind the curtain.

Read the SG blogs, and the boards and groups.

Dot's last blog is a good example of numerous sentiments echoed over and over in recent months.

I realize there are too many paying members that not everyone will be happy all the time. Granted. And I'm not suggesting a coup, but maybe the SGs on this site deserve a little more respect, and the members deserve to get what they paid for. I'd hate to think the site has literally become a picture hub where horny people download snap shots. I don't know how the SG community feels, the girls who put themselves out there not just in photos but emotionally, but I'd love to hear your thoughts. Maybe with enough input something may change for the better.

Of course if I'm way off, please say so also, maybe this viewpoint is only shared by a limited few.

By asking what's happened to "SG" do you mean that the you're suggesting the members of the community changed, the behavior of the members changed, the moderation policies of the moderators and staff changed, or the target demographic that are being advertised to and having members recruited from has changed?

The specific things that you've mentioned (minus the tags part) happened even before you joined. I would have to say it kindo happened right after I joined. That's right, bitches, I fucked SG up for everyone!

All of the above beppo. Without a doubt. And if it changed that much since you joined then nothing seems to be stopping it. Like I said, there are too many members to make the small minority happy, but I wonder if the SGs feel the same way or they just accept it because the moderators and staff have this site on lockdown and what they say goes.

The SGs are the reason we're here...right, you'd think they'd look for their input to make this site as stellar as it can be. And a lot of the input isn't that positive. Maybe the SGs don't want to speak out, I can understand that, but the site is going to end up losing a lot of open minded, talented, and amazing girls.

God damn Communists

Commie bed-wetting types

communists ruin everything

WRONG!

i'm here for the peen shots in sg chat.

Listen to this man! He paid for this site!

This is old news. Very, very old news. While what I'm about to say is completely sexist...and will probably offend more than a few people.....when you get more than two women together in a group...there's bound to be drama.

People have been saying "The site is changing...is used to be about the art" for roughly 7 years now. I've been a member of the site for like....8 years now...and everything you mentioned....is like the same skipping record of complaints....and yet the site has not only survived...but thrived.

As members....we get MORE then what we pay for. See how much $4 a month gets you anywhere else. Go look around at some of the "other" sites...and compare the quality of their content...and their membership fees to SG.

The experience of being a member of SG (which I have been for a long time) and/or working for SG (which I haven't, but know people who have) is not uniform. For every disgruntled member, model or employee you talk to.....there are a bunch more happy campers.

The people I've known and talked to who worked and/or modeled for SG for a long time...and were the happiest....were also the ones who were the most realistic & intelligent. They were the ones who had fun...and used the opportunity to take from it what they could.

This site is no different from real life....in the sense that there are crazies & normal people and everything else in between thrown into the mix together. You just have to sort out the bullshit to get to the real story. And just like social circles in real life.....if you look around and don't see the weirdo...you ARE the weirdo.

I disagree slightly with Dot about the sets all following the same formula. I'll only name the photogrpaher I'm complimenting....but Lorelei is a fucking great photographer. She does have a signature style. A lot of times I can look at a set and know she shot it. However...she's not formulaic or repetitive.

There are one or two photographers ( I said I wouldn't name names) who are very formulaic & repetitive. I find myself thinking "Okay...here comes the arched back, tilted head pose......followed by the lying down, shot from above pose....." no matter who the model is. To be fair....there are HUGELY popular & successful photogs who do the same thing. Think Arny Freytag & Stephen Wayda.

Where I do agree is that overall....SG seems to have gotten away from some of the more raw sets & models. I would like to see fewer Hot Topic Punks and more models like Marie.

I could find threads from 2004 saying the exact same shit.

Things change. Some people are happy, some aren't. There was never a time when all the models, members and staff were happy with every aspect of the site.

It's also funny that people who have been members or SGs for 6 months are the first to mourn for some ideal past that didn't ever exist.

+1 ( Im here for the same reason as issue is )

In regards to people being mean, let's not forget that this is the internet. Whether we like it or not, it has become acceptable by a large percentage of users to be perfectly horrific human beings when posting in any sort of forum. If you think SG is rough, spend some time on other sites with open forums. It's fucking brutal out there.

As has already been stated, this "change" sentiment is nothing new. One trick, and the one that most works for me, is to accept that things change. Things always change. Nothing will stop that. So instead of railing against something that will never stop, instead of fighting an unwinnable fight, one can accept and even enjoy the change that comes. I've made this point too many times to count, both online and in conversation.

And yes, no business has a 100% approval rating from either its employees or its customers. That's part of doing business; you piss people off sometimes. We're still paying $4 a month for pictures of beautiful naked women you can't find anywhere else, and that's a damn fine value. These hard economic times have hurt my ability to pay for any sort of porn (and let's please not have that debate here), so I appreciate that SG is providing me with a quality product for such a reasonable fee.

PS - Starting this thread is totally going to get you laid, dude.