Boards > Everything SG > Only one set a day this week.

Tuesdae

USA

October 2007

JUL 09, 2009 01:27 PM

mgcchkn said:
On the subject of MR, I think it kind of sucks. One of the reasons I looked forward to visiting the site everyday back in "the old days," was to be surprised by which sets went up. Now with MR, everyone has already seen the sets that go live and it's not that exciting (to me anyway) when a set goes live anymore. Granted, it's exciting for the girls when their sets get bought or they go pink, but to the viewers, it's no big deal.

Yeah, I agree with this and I think a lot of people do it, too.

Member review is in it's own little tab section in photos, nobody holds your eyelids open and forces you to look at it. If you want to be surprised then just avoid that section of the site.

Well, obviously you haven't experienced having a set go up the old way, through staff review only, so I don't blame you if you don't understand when I say that for a lot of us it's not at all as exciting to have a set go up in the front page spot if everyone already saw it, as if it's brand new.

This is not meant to be snarky, I just want to explain that not only the members are kinda bummed by the lack of surprise

No, I get what you're saying and took no snark from that, I just don't understand why if people want to be surprised by "set of the day" they bother looking at member review at all. Not looking at MR would mean that every set every purchased is always a surprise, and thus eliminate the need to complain about not being surprised anymore.

Elettra

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

JUL 09, 2009 03:32 PM

But you can't just avoid MR by not looking at the MR tab - MR is pretty pervasive all over the site. New MR sets are put up on the front page for a while, girls flog them in their blogs, in groups, in comments... it does get a little hard to avoid at times. So I see the point being made.

Otter

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

JUL 09, 2009 04:29 PM

SG saves approximately $2500 per week utilizing the "only one set a day this week" method (versus two sets a day).

Why pay an additional 10 girls per week when the site receives high quality (often staff photographed) sets for FREE via member review?

As a member, I miss double the boobies. As a student taking Business 101, I see this as the fiscally logical method.

Otter

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

JUL 09, 2009 04:46 PM

Otter said:
SG saves approximately $2500 per week utilizing the "only one set a day this week" method (versus two sets a day).

Why pay an additional 10 girls per week when the site receives high quality (often staff photographed) sets for FREE via member review?

As a member, I miss double the boobies. As a student taking Business 101, I see this as the fiscally logical method.

*Edit: an additional 5 girls per week, not an additional 10 girls per week

mgcchkn

Bakersfield, CA

October 2005

JUL 09, 2009 06:15 PM

Otter said:
SG saves approximately $2500 per week utilizing the "only one set a day this week" method (versus two sets a day).

Why pay an additional 10 girls per week when the site receives high quality (often staff photographed) sets for FREE via member review?

As a member, I miss double the boobies. As a student taking Business 101, I see this as the fiscally logical method.

I totally understand the financial benefits in not paying 5 more models a week from a business stand point. But I'm a paying customer and want more for my measly $48/year! lol

With the money savings mentality of it, why don't they just make it "Set of the Week," put out 1 set on Monday morning and then give us 1 extra MR set a day. It's the same quantity boobies right? And they save another $3000/week!

I would think goal would be to drive more traffic to the site, not less, since this business model is definitely not supported by the subscriptions, but by the ad dollars that are spent here. Cutting the number of quality sets is not the way to do it.

Granted there are some really good and sometimes amazing MR sets, but the majority of them are not high enough quality to get bought. I'm a quality over quantity kind of guy, so I'd rather see higher quality lower volume (2 a day) content than lower quality higher volume (8 MR a day) content. Bring back 2 a day SR sets and the bonus weekends that we used to get and I'd gladly pay a higher subscription rate.

I see both sides of the argument and both sides have legitimate points, but I'm going to side with myself, the paying customer, on this one. lol

Scotty

SUICIDEGIRL

Australia

JUL 09, 2009 09:30 PM

Otter said:
SG saves approximately $2500 per week utilizing the "only one set a day this week" method (versus two sets a day).

Why pay an additional 10 girls per week when the site receives high quality (often staff photographed) sets for FREE via member review?

As a member, I miss double the boobies. As a student taking Business 101, I see this as the fiscally logical method.

I don't think money is an issue though.

Because they mentioned in a thread somewhere else that they were considering:
- Putting up one set a day, but also paying SUICIDEGIRLS (not hopefuls) $100 for member review sets published to the site.
- Putting up one set a day put paying the SG $1000 instead of $500

I think the issue is, that alot of the members only like 1 set per day.

I don't think it has anythng to do with money.

Neyrissa

SUICIDEGIRL

United Kingdom

JUL 10, 2009 12:18 AM

I'm bored.

*sigh*

Abbiss

SUICIDEGIRL

Belgium

JUL 10, 2009 12:36 AM

Me too.

Scotty

SUICIDEGIRL

Australia

JUL 10, 2009 01:48 AM

Samesies.

Holley

SUICIDEGIRL

United Kingdom

JUL 10, 2009 02:29 AM

I prefer two sets a day too, but Im sure SG has a reason for one a day.
The whole MR set going front page doesn't bother me, i love seeing a set go live that i thought was ace in MR. I love seeing SR sets front page too but to me its no different seeing it on the front page for the first time or seeing it MR for the first time then it going front page. If its a good set, its a good set.

New sets go up every three hours in MR, they're not all good by any means but there are some awesome sets! Front page is brill as an SG, its an amazing feeling being set of the day, I wonder if i was wasn't an SG if i would feel differently, but maybe front page is more for the SGs? Like you've made a fab set, its going to get best spot on the site, well done! Because whether there is one set a day front page or not, there is still the same amount of sets, just maybe the set that would be front page on one day, would have to wait in MR til the next day to go front page.

I like two a day cuz i get the 'yeah that set has gone live!' feeling more often, where i feel happy for the SG.

Ramble done

Agy

SUICIDEGIRL

Ontario, Canada

JUL 11, 2009 08:53 AM

Otter said:

Otter said:
SG saves approximately $2500 per week utilizing the "only one set a day this week" method (versus two sets a day).

Why pay an additional 10 girls per week when the site receives high quality (often staff photographed) sets for FREE via member review?

As a member, I miss double the boobies. As a student taking Business 101, I see this as the fiscally logical method.

*Edit: an additional 5 girls per week, not an additional 10 girls per week

Well, it would be 10 people at the end of the week: 5 girls + 5 photographers.

DCruz

Montreal-nord, QC

November 2006

JUL 11, 2009 10:31 AM

yup... I want more SGs on the front page too... we need a holiday or something, to have the set of the hour thing (was it every hour ?) again

Otter

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

JUL 11, 2009 12:37 PM

Agy said:

Otter said:

Otter said:
SG saves approximately $2500 per week utilizing the "only one set a day this week" method (versus two sets a day).

Why pay an additional 10 girls per week when the site receives high quality (often staff photographed) sets for FREE via member review?

As a member, I miss double the boobies. As a student taking Business 101, I see this as the fiscally logical method.

*Edit: an additional 5 girls per week, not an additional 10 girls per week

Well, it would be 10 people at the end of the week: 5 girls + 5 photographers.

True! I forgot to include paying photographers! (Oops! )

However, my point remains the same:

SG saves money by utilizing the "only one set a day this week" method.

Fractal

SUICIDEGIRL

Louisiana, USA

JUL 11, 2009 12:43 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there seven days in a week?

Otter

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

JUL 11, 2009 12:45 PM

Fractal said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there seven days in a week?

I did not include weekends because that is normally one set per day, even during two set per day weeks.

Agy

SUICIDEGIRL

Ontario, Canada

JUL 11, 2009 12:50 PM

Otter said:

Fractal said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there seven days in a week?

I did not include weekends because that is normally one set per day, even during two set per day weeks.

Yup, I'd say it's been one set a day on weekends for the past three months or so.

Dot

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JUL 11, 2009 05:04 PM

sean has said it time and time again, the average member here only visits the site once or twice a week. having more than one or two sets a day increases member cancellations by a lot. it gets boring for those who visit the site frequently, but that's the minority of paying members.

Ridley

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JUL 11, 2009 07:58 PM

Dot said:
sean has said it time and time again, the average member here only visits the site once or twice a week. having more than one or two sets a day increases member cancellations by a lot. it gets boring for those who visit the site frequently, but that's the minority of paying members.

The how can they justify the overwhelming content in the MR section? If it too much to have 2 sets a day, why is it not too much to have MR? It's not as if it's much different, and it's still prominent on the site updating with a lot more sets. Isn't MR supposed to draw more members and keep more members?

I don't see how having less paid sets works when they keep MR.

Ring_finger

Lubbock, TX

December 2004

JUL 11, 2009 08:07 PM

Can't SG sell MR content? It's all their benefit, that's how they justify it. They don't have to pay for MR sets that don't go live, if I'm not mistaken.

Scotty

SUICIDEGIRL

Australia

JUL 11, 2009 08:56 PM

CodyW said:
Can't SG sell MR content? It's all their benefit, that's how they justify it. They don't have to pay for MR sets that don't go live, if I'm not mistaken.

The can't sell something they don't own. And they don't own it, until they buy it. If something is in MR, they SG doesn't own it, the girl still owns it. SG can't sell images they haven't purchased. And if it's been purchased, then it's obviously not going to be in MR.

Sean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

JUL 11, 2009 09:03 PM

Ridley said:

Dot said:
sean has said it time and time again, the average member here only visits the site once or twice a week. having more than one or two sets a day increases member cancellations by a lot. it gets boring for those who visit the site frequently, but that's the minority of paying members.

The how can they justify the overwhelming content in the MR section? If it too much to have 2 sets a day, why is it not too much to have MR? It's not as if it's much different, and it's still prominent on the site updating with a lot more sets. Isn't MR supposed to draw more members and keep more members?

I don't see how having less paid sets works when they keep MR.

Because more then 50% of our paying members never look in member review. Basically we are trying to serve two very different type of members with our site.

1. The hardcore fan that visits multiple times a day. (this group is smaller)
These people tend to look at (in order): MYSG, Groups, Friends pages, Set of the day, Member review area, Boards.

2. The casual member that visits once or twice a week. (this group is larger)
These people tend to look at (in order): Set of the day, Boards, MYSG, Groups

We have member review for our hardcore fans, where things are always updating with a wide variety of types of girls and photography. We have Sets of the day for our casual fans, where the girls tend to be pretty flawless and the pictures tend to be perfectly executed.

We have had more success with our casual membership by being more selective and choosing sets of the day less frequently .

Ring_finger

Lubbock, TX

December 2004

JUL 11, 2009 09:15 PM

Scotty said:

CodyW said:
Can't SG sell MR content? It's all their benefit, that's how they justify it. They don't have to pay for MR sets that don't go live, if I'm not mistaken.

The can't sell something they don't own. And they don't own it, until they buy it. If something is in MR, they SG doesn't own it, the girl still owns it. SG can't sell images they haven't purchased. And if it's been purchased, then it's obviously not going to be in MR.

Then why are the SG logo and copyright on MR sets? It seems odd that SG would bequeath their logo to girls vying to be an SG.

Scotty

SUICIDEGIRL

Australia

JUL 11, 2009 09:20 PM

CodyW said:

Scotty said:

CodyW said:
Can't SG sell MR content? It's all their benefit, that's how they justify it. They don't have to pay for MR sets that don't go live, if I'm not mistaken.

The can't sell something they don't own. And they don't own it, until they buy it. If something is in MR, they SG doesn't own it, the girl still owns it. SG can't sell images they haven't purchased. And if it's been purchased, then it's obviously not going to be in MR.

Then why are the SG logo and copyright on MR sets? It seems odd that SG would bequeath their logo to girls vying to be an SG.

The person photoshopping the set, has the option of putting them on there or not. Basically it just tells SG that the set has been shopped, and saves them from doing it. It's entirely up to the girl and photoshopper if they want to put the logo on or not. Not all sets in MR have the logo on them. The logo is available for any member to download and use on their sets if they wish - it doesn't mean SG has purchased the set.

Ring_finger

Lubbock, TX

December 2004

JUL 11, 2009 09:37 PM

Scotty said:

CodyW said:

Scotty said:

CodyW said:
Can't SG sell MR content? It's all their benefit, that's how they justify it. They don't have to pay for MR sets that don't go live, if I'm not mistaken.

The can't sell something they don't own. And they don't own it, until they buy it. If something is in MR, they SG doesn't own it, the girl still owns it. SG can't sell images they haven't purchased. And if it's been purchased, then it's obviously not going to be in MR.

Then why are the SG logo and copyright on MR sets? It seems odd that SG would bequeath their logo to girls vying to be an SG.

The person photoshopping the set, has the option of putting them on there or not. Basically it just tells SG that the set has been shopped, and saves them from doing it. It's entirely up to the girl and photoshopper if they want to put the logo on or not. Not all sets in MR have the logo on them. The logo is available for any member to download and use on their sets if they wish - it doesn't mean SG has purchased the set.

Thanks for the clarification.

Scotty

SUICIDEGIRL

Australia

JUL 11, 2009 09:40 PM

CodyW said:

Scotty said:

CodyW said:

Scotty said:

CodyW said:
Can't SG sell MR content? It's all their benefit, that's how they justify it. They don't have to pay for MR sets that don't go live, if I'm not mistaken.

The can't sell something they don't own. And they don't own it, until they buy it. If something is in MR, they SG doesn't own it, the girl still owns it. SG can't sell images they haven't purchased. And if it's been purchased, then it's obviously not going to be in MR.

Then why are the SG logo and copyright on MR sets? It seems odd that SG would bequeath their logo to girls vying to be an SG.

The person photoshopping the set, has the option of putting them on there or not. Basically it just tells SG that the set has been shopped, and saves them from doing it. It's entirely up to the girl and photoshopper if they want to put the logo on or not. Not all sets in MR have the logo on them. The logo is available for any member to download and use on their sets if they wish - it doesn't mean SG has purchased the set.

Thanks for the clarification.

Not a problem hun

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Tuesdae

USA

October 2007

JUL 09, 2009 01:27 PM

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

JUL 09, 2009 03:32 PM

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

JUL 09, 2009 04:29 PM

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

JUL 09, 2009 04:46 PM

Bakersfield, CA

October 2005

JUL 09, 2009 06:15 PM

SUICIDEGIRL

Australia

JUL 09, 2009 09:30 PM

SUICIDEGIRL

United Kingdom

JUL 10, 2009 12:18 AM

SUICIDEGIRL

Belgium

JUL 10, 2009 12:36 AM

SUICIDEGIRL

Australia

JUL 10, 2009 01:48 AM

SUICIDEGIRL

United Kingdom

JUL 10, 2009 02:29 AM

SUICIDEGIRL

Ontario, Canada

JUL 11, 2009 08:53 AM

Montreal-nord, QC

November 2006

JUL 11, 2009 10:31 AM

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

JUL 11, 2009 12:37 PM

SUICIDEGIRL

Louisiana, USA

JUL 11, 2009 12:43 PM

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

JUL 11, 2009 12:45 PM

SUICIDEGIRL

Ontario, Canada

JUL 11, 2009 12:50 PM

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JUL 11, 2009 05:04 PM

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JUL 11, 2009 07:58 PM

Lubbock, TX

December 2004

JUL 11, 2009 08:07 PM

SUICIDEGIRL

Australia

JUL 11, 2009 08:56 PM

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

JUL 11, 2009 09:03 PM

Lubbock, TX

December 2004

JUL 11, 2009 09:15 PM

SUICIDEGIRL

Australia

JUL 11, 2009 09:20 PM

Lubbock, TX

December 2004

JUL 11, 2009 09:37 PM

SUICIDEGIRL

Australia

JUL 11, 2009 09:40 PM