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Hunkpapa

Hunkpapa

United Kingdom
June 2004

MAR 04, 2009 08:08 AM

Niobe said:

tmronin said:

thx staff, i miss being surprised with new sets on the front page.



I feel the same way. I like not knowing. It's so much better.



yeah, me too.

Kammi_1900

Kammi_1900

HOPEFUL

Great Lakes, IL

MAR 04, 2009 08:24 AM

Tragique said:
I'm going to stick my naive opinion in here.
I think Suicide Girls needs to start taking some of the control back from the members.
Stop bleating on about giving everyone a chance. You only have to look around the net for the bad press MR has bought so far.
What happend to themes and trend reports? That used to be important (and fun!). And how about saying 'Sorry but thats rubbish and you clearly need to go away for 6 months and maybe then try again' like what used to happen. This is going way back, but how about you try and get some real personalities back on here, you know once upon a time we had to convince SG we would be a good representative of their site, that we were unique and special enough. You only have to look at the girls and old members that have left since this whole MR thing started to see how pointless it seems to have become.
Forget money and statistics for a while. Since the site changed i rarely look at sets, i dont feel enthusiastic about sending sets in, I dont even tell people I model here anymore because I get 'oh you're a SuicideGirl?' instead of the 'Oh wow, you're a Suicide Girl!'.
I think SG got really boring. The new breed of hopefuls and members are annoying, this isnt myspace but it feels like it, and that alienates a whole load of other members. There are some very intelligent people on this site, writers, photographers. artists etc but I noticed that theyre getting less and less involved, which is a shame because the site is a much better place to socialise these days with the My SG, the feed and the groups.
When did people stop being happy with getting a new and exciting pair of boobs expertly chosen by staff presented to them a few times a day. SCS was perfect, we could say 'Hey, how could you reject this fine peice o' ass!' and then said girl got her reward for making a good set that staff was silly enough to overlook. When I was a 'hopeful' all that meant was that I was a member that had a bunch of people hoping to see me naked in the near future, that was way more fun. And Limbo girls, how awesome were they? A mystery girl that we couldnt wait to see the set that her profile picture was from.
I have a set in MR but I dont want to promote it because it doesnt feel right, i never joined here to have to get people to 'vote for me'.
I'm rubbish at articulating, but I think I got across what i mean. Make tattooed boobs special again. Or something like that.




I've been on the site for a couple weeks and totally agree with you. If there is any way of me signing a contract to model on this site, I wanna know that going and working with a staff photographer, putting out the money to drive to him, get an outfit, awesome hair and makeup and all of that fun stuff better be worth it. I love everything about the site but this whole member review thing makes me iffy on actually joining up. It seems like if you aren't a favorite you would most likely get rejected by staff and sent straight to member review. I like the element of suprise and don't wand the members looking at my set until it's perfected with photoshop and the sg symbol and I've got my check in the mail..It sounds bitchy but if it means waiting a few months I'm fine with that... I wanna see the awesome sets that would go up every day that I dreamed of looking at when I was 16 and 17 thinking to myself god it would be so cool to have all my friends open the suicide girls myspace or come onto the site and see me.

When my good friend Tesha went live and got all of her cool goodies and all of that I was so thrilled and really wanted to do this. It's been a while since she went up and pink and things have changed here a lot. I think staff should be more picky choosy on who they accept. I know a ton of great models who applied months and months agoand are waiting to get accepted because everyone and their mom is applying to sg. I would rather see quality that quantity. I understand I'm not everyones cup of tea and everyone isn't mine, but it's unrealistic to accept so many people.

Chainlink

Chainlink

Key West, FL
August 2005

MAR 04, 2009 08:30 AM

Personally, I feel like MR turned sg into a shitty, alt porn version of American Idol or HotorNot.
I look to sg to not just know what is hot, but to define it, and show it to me.
Not the other way around.
The site as a whole was SO much better pre-MR.

/ 2 cents

Dot

Dot

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

MAR 04, 2009 08:37 AM

Neyrissa said:
I don't want SCS and I don't want MR, I just want it to be back to the old style, and that's it. It was fine that way.



but it wasn't really. the old system had a ton of flaws. if staff review ever came back into full force i would like to see some major changes to it. IMO no one should have to wait close to a year for their set to go live.

Lavezzaro

Lavezzaro

SUICIDEGIRL

Pitcairn

MAR 04, 2009 08:42 AM

Dot said:

Neyrissa said:
I don't want SCS and I don't want MR, I just want it to be back to the old style, and that's it. It was fine that way.



but it wasn't really. the old system had a ton of flaws. if staff review ever came back into full force i would like to see some major changes to it. IMO no one should have to wait close to a year for their set to go live.



Maybe staff could put the older sets which are waiting more than, lets say 6 months, on a kind of member review area?

Dot

Dot

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

MAR 04, 2009 08:48 AM

Lavezzaro said:

Dot said:

Neyrissa said:
I don't want SCS and I don't want MR, I just want it to be back to the old style, and that's it. It was fine that way.



but it wasn't really. the old system had a ton of flaws. if staff review ever came back into full force i would like to see some major changes to it. IMO no one should have to wait close to a year for their set to go live.



Maybe staff could put the older sets which are waiting more than, lets say 6 months, on a kind of member review area?



i remember when the major change happened staff originally said they were utilizing MR to "clear out the queue" and that the plan was to eventually turn back to SR- in which they would only have a 2 week queue of sets at any given time. I hope that idea surfaces again because it sounds like a good one.

Rizzo

Rizzo

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

MAR 04, 2009 09:25 AM

I, too, miss everything about Limbo Girls. Seeing that there was a new hot girl in limbo and the anticipation of when her set would go live.
I also miss when SG would actually interview girls as part of the application process. I'm not sure if that was still in effect when I joined in mid-2006, but that whole idea was part of what really sparked my interest in this site. I thought it was awesome that Missy herself would take the time to get to know the girls before they became an SG. Now, the majority of the newer girls haven't had any interaction with Missy whatsoever.
Like tmronin said, recently seeing more sets going live that went trhough staff review has been nice. I'm actually taking the time to look through the entire set and leaving a comment on it.
A lot of people say that MR ruins the surprise. Well ya know what? No one is forcing you to look at sets in MR. I know that I rarely look at MR sets unless it's from one of my favorite SGs or a hopeful who I'm friends with or, from seeing the preview picture or kowing that it was shot by a staff photographer, looks promising. I am, however, more inclined to look at a set if I see that it has actually been bought even if I'm not too keen on the model.
Anywhoozzle, I'm kinda jumping around a lot. Basically, I'd love it if SG went back to Staff Review and SCS.

Bowie

Bowie

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

MAR 04, 2009 10:54 AM

I agree with most of what has been said over the past few pages. I have never really been a fan of MR and would like to add a +1 to going back to SR and SCS.

finlay

finlay

United Kingdom
February 2009

MAR 04, 2009 11:13 AM

If SG is about 'redefining beauty' then the site has to challenge received notions and put forward new ideas - then again SG as a community needs to be able to argue for or against

I wasn't here to see how the alternatives worked but it strikes me that if MR is just a numbers game (is it?) then in the long run its a sure way of weeding out anything marginal or challenging and promoting bland conformity (like what happened to old school punk?)

Leandra

Leandra

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

MAR 04, 2009 11:23 AM

Renna said:
I wasn't around for SCS, but from what I understand the SR+SCS worked pretty well.

Regardless, I'm excited for whatever change takes place. smile



SCS gave birth to my set... I'm happy about that smile I liked the system... and not just because my set was chosen.

This is the first time i've spoken my mind on MR but i'm going to go ahead and do it. I don't have huge issues with MR, the only issues I really have are missing the element of suprise, even with SCS there was still a suprise about which girl would get picked! I think it has taken away from the awesomness of being a Suicide Girl a little bit and having your naked pictures on here, it feels less select and a little less special....

partly because I keep seeing girls on myspace with suicide as their last name (more than there used to be) telling people to check out their sets on suicide girls, people get confused thinking they're official SG's. Also, I think it might make it less special for hopefuls because they've already actually had their set on the front page in some form, whether it gets bought or not.

However, I think MR works majority of the time picking the right sets... I don't agree with members sometimes, but then staff tends not to choose those sets in the end anyway.

Also, I think the queue was way way too long for SR... I really liked the way SR worked, but I don't think it's nice to wait up to a year or more to have a set come out. MR does get sets out quicker.

Sooo, in conlusion MR has it's pros and cons, so does SR. Well, whatever happens i'm sticking around to see.

Creide

Creide

SUICIDEGIRL

Germany

MAR 04, 2009 11:43 AM

Bowie said:
I agree with most of what has been said over the past few pages. I have never really been a fan of MR and would like to add a +1 to going back to SR and SCS.



Totally agree!
I don't like the MR-system.
No surprise, and I think a lot of girls go with me, also when they didn`t mentioned, that the chance for the "famous" girls is 1000% bigger to get a set accepted through MR then for the "unknown".
I see a lot of good sets in the MR, which never get bought, cause the ladies are "unknown" SGs.
Also I don't like the assortment for many MR-sets, especially those of many hopefulls, cause, honestly, everybody see that some sets have NEVER the chance to go live, is it because of the quality or the girl itself.
This is 1. annoying for the members, 2. unfair for the girls whos send the sets in, cause they get hope where no hope is and 3. not nice for the "good" hopefulls (those with good sets), cause the queue for MR is so long, and I think with a better sorting it could grow shorter.

But as I allready mentioned, I don't like MR and want SR and SCS back.


Oh and when I'm just on bleatingwink: I think the sets got more and more boring (also the accepted). Lately I have looked at sets from 2005, 2006 and so on. It made me sad. There were more than just naked girls. know what I mean? Funny and crazy stories, themes, backgrounds. I loved it.

Celta

Celta

Germany
July 2006

MAR 04, 2009 12:14 PM

I agree with most of the recent comments; especially with the ones from lil_tuffy, Shalome and Tragique.
I don't like MR. In the beginning I thought maybe it could be a place for creative and rather unusual sets. But it's not! It's rather the reason for the increasing spamming, attention whoring and for a massive amount of self-promotion. And I also miss the surprise when a new set is on the frontpage or there is a new Suicidegirl! I really wish that (at least most of) the sets would be chosen by staff again.

discosleaze

discosleaze

HOPEFUL

United Kingdom

MAR 04, 2009 12:27 PM

Niobe said:

tmronin said:

thx staff, i miss being surprised with new sets on the front page.



I feel the same way. I like not knowing. It's so much better.



ill admit i like the suprise too and agree with what lil_tuffy, Shalome and Tragique said too.

LastSummer14

LastSummer14

Korea, Republic Of
April 2008

MAR 04, 2009 12:40 PM

Basically, MR isn't such a bad thing in general. The system just needs some finetuning if you ask me. It should be "trimmed down" a bit. Less sets would be a good start. And staff just needs to sort out better what goes into MR and what not. Only sets that meet a certain standard should be accepted (like no blurry pics, no cellphone pics, etc...as you often can see them in MR) - it obviously doesn't happen atm, even if some ppl claim it does. I'm aware of the fact that this would mean much more work for the staff, but I think if you really want a fair and working system you really should consider it as an option. It would also justify the whole MR system and raise the quality of its content (and therefore the site in general alot).

Another thing that both bores and annoys me is that the most famous SGs on this site use MR to get their sets bought faster with the side effect that less popular girls are getting "robbed" of their chances. So many good sets from less prominent SGs and also hopefuls that meet all the standards don't get accepted. Instead of giving these girls a spot on the front page for like once in 12 months, staff picks the 15th set of the same model in like 3 months. Just doesn't seem fair to me. I know they are beautiful. I know people want to see them. But it makes MR a farce. Plus, it's extra boring when popular SG X submits a set to MR and two days later it's on the front page. Just saying that you should give other girls more chances. I know, realistically it's a hard thing to do. But it wouldn't hurt popular girls with 15 sets up already if one of their MR sets didn't get picked up for once. I know it brings more members and cash, but it sucks anyway. For me it's one of the big flaws of the site.

Bexi

Bexi

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

MAR 04, 2009 12:53 PM

there are too many submissions in member review. too much content which is impossible to follow and still too many sets which make member review more random than special because they are still lacking what I would accociate with the image of sg (mostly sets from hopefuls).
I would like member review to be stricter, to offer a more interesting selection and bring back the motivation&fun to look at sets again.


If it would be a day for wishes I would wish hopefuls and sg´s to be more active ( in a less self-pimping way) so I can relate to more than just the pictures & "look at my set, tits and ass". probably the mass of silent members might not give a damn, but I think the people of the "deeper community" still do care about behaviour and such.

I really liked scs and also I am happy to look at sets chosen from staff ( love surprises! ).

Fynx

Fynx

SUICIDEGIRL

Ontario, Canada

MAR 04, 2009 01:07 PM

I agree with a lot of the opinions said in the 8 pages I just read, ha.
I personally as a new SG, feel I will never benefit from MR. I would prefer the old method back, as I know my friend who was an SG left because of MR, and enjoyed the simplier times of "yes or no". It's off putting that my sets sit in MR for 3 months, free. While I'm not on SG for the money my sets make, I'm still not down for my ladybits being seen for free.

I think any change at this point would be positive. Somethings gotta' give.

lil_tuffy

lil_tuffy

MODERATOR

San Francisco, CA

MAR 04, 2009 02:55 PM

Personally, I'd prefer the Tuffy Review system. But then we'd only have about 4 sets a week and two of 'em would probably be the same girl.

Ridley

Ridley

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

MAR 04, 2009 04:10 PM

tmronin said:
all this being said, i was very surprised and happy to see the Kodi/Rashel multi go up this morning (and the Dawsen set as well). i had no clue it was in the system and honestly, it was the first set on the main page i have clicked all the way thru in weeks. Mainly because i didn't see it in MR and was excited to see how it came out. this is the SG i know and love.

thx staff, i miss being surprised with new sets on the front page.



Fully agree.

Ridley

Ridley

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

MAR 04, 2009 04:13 PM

Dot said:

Neyrissa said:
I don't want SCS and I don't want MR, I just want it to be back to the old style, and that's it. It was fine that way.



but it wasn't really. the old system had a ton of flaws. if staff review ever came back into full force i would like to see some major changes to it. IMO no one should have to wait close to a year for their set to go live.



Maybe there should be a rule, or a clause in the contract that a set bought will go up in six months. That way staff is required to put up "old" sets before they get stale. Then the girls aren't overwhelmed. A new set can wait just a tad longer and still be fine.

atomicant

atomicant

Portland, OR
June 2003

MAR 04, 2009 04:16 PM

lil_tuffy said:
Personally, I'd prefer the Tuffy Review system. But then we'd only have about 4 sets a week and two of 'em would probably be the same girl.



i'd be ok with that.

Elettra

Elettra

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

MAR 04, 2009 04:20 PM

I don't know, I kind of like both.

I miss the surprise of not seeing sets before they go up, and the excitement of limbo girls having their set go up, but at the same time a lot of really awesome sets have been put up through MR that probably wouldn't have been bought through SR (I haven't been on the site for nearly a year, but I remember this from before I went to the archive).

I think I'd be stoked on SR coming back with SCSs again too because those were awesome (or even second chance weekends) but like Dot has said, it would be really bad if the old queue issues came back.

Staff, I really look forward to seeing the tweaks to the system you're planning smile

LaceyK

LaceyK

Tarrytown, NY
October 2005

MAR 04, 2009 04:33 PM

Tragique said:
I'm going to stick my naive opinion in here.
I think Suicide Girls needs to start taking some of the control back from the members.
Stop bleating on about giving everyone a chance. You only have to look around the net for the bad press MR has bought so far.
What happend to themes and trend reports? That used to be important (and fun!). And how about saying 'Sorry but thats rubbish and you clearly need to go away for 6 months and maybe then try again' like what used to happen. This is going way back, but how about you try and get some real personalities back on here, you know once upon a time we had to convince SG we would be a good representative of their site, that we were unique and special enough. You only have to look at the girls and old members that have left since this whole MR thing started to see how pointless it seems to have become.
Forget money and statistics for a while. Since the site changed i rarely look at sets, i dont feel enthusiastic about sending sets in, I dont even tell people I model here anymore because I get 'oh you're a SuicideGirl?' instead of the 'Oh wow, you're a Suicide Girl!'.
I think SG got really boring. The new breed of hopefuls and members are annoying, this isnt myspace but it feels like it, and that alienates a whole load of other members. There are some very intelligent people on this site, writers, photographers. artists etc but I noticed that theyre getting less and less involved, which is a shame because the site is a much better place to socialise these days with the My SG, the feed and the groups.
When did people stop being happy with getting a new and exciting pair of boobs expertly chosen by staff presented to them a few times a day. SCS was perfect, we could say 'Hey, how could you reject this fine peice o' ass!' and then said girl got her reward for making a good set that staff was silly enough to overlook. When I was a 'hopeful' all that meant was that I was a member that had a bunch of people hoping to see me naked in the near future, that was way more fun. And Limbo girls, how awesome were they? A mystery girl that we couldnt wait to see the set that her profile picture was from.
I have a set in MR but I dont want to promote it because it doesnt feel right, i never joined here to have to get people to 'vote for me'.
I'm rubbish at articulating, but I think I got across what i mean. Make tattooed boobs special again. Or something like that.



Fucking awesome and totally fucking true.
Being a SG is no longer as special as it once was because through MR and not making certain aspects of a model important (as the site once did), the site has diluted what once was something special.

You used to have to work really hard. And there was no second chance. If you didn't pay attention to trends, if you didn't pay attention to posing or lighting, then you would get a reason why you were rejected and that was it, you were rejected. You can bet that next time you made sure the lighting was right, your tags were ripped off underwear, and you didn't do a bathtub set. You didn't just do the same thing again hoping that if you posted enough titty pics around you would get voted in.

Chainlink

Chainlink

Key West, FL
August 2005

MAR 04, 2009 05:12 PM

atomicant said:

lil_tuffy said:
Personally, I'd prefer the Tuffy Review system. But then we'd only have about 4 sets a week and two of 'em would probably be the same girl.



i'd be ok with that.



ditto.

ElizaTheTroll

ElizaTheTroll

Australia
January 2006

MAR 05, 2009 12:20 AM

lil_tuffy said:
Personally, I'd prefer the Tuffy Review system. But then we'd only have about 4 sets a week and two of 'em would probably be the same girl.



I can imagine worse things.

Neyrissa

Neyrissa

SUICIDEGIRL

United Kingdom

MAR 05, 2009 12:28 AM

Ridley said:

Dot said:

Neyrissa said:
I don't want SCS and I don't want MR, I just want it to be back to the old style, and that's it. It was fine that way.



but it wasn't really. the old system had a ton of flaws. if staff review ever came back into full force i would like to see some major changes to it. IMO no one should have to wait close to a year for their set to go live.



Maybe there should be a rule, or a clause in the contract that a set bought will go up in six months. That way staff is required to put up "old" sets before they get stale. Then the girls aren't overwhelmed. A new set can wait just a tad longer and still be fine.



I agree with you. I've always thought that putting sets up in the order they're received into HQ (as what happens with the MR sets currently in the queue) would be the most logical way.

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