Constructive Criticism

Hmmm, I couldnt have said it better, Ive been thinking the same things since the site went up, and I realized that the complaint and whine here thread was one of the fastest threads thta I have seen since I have been a member...

agreed.

i believe the instinct is to criticize or lament the design without regard for the human connection--without remembering or respecting that real people's real work (and emotional attachment) is being criticized.

you probably wouldn't talk to your best friend this way if they changed their hair or home decor...and while the management aren't necessarily your best friends, they deserve similar respect, by virtue of their, well, humanity.

Definitely true.

While I might not like some aspects of the site, "ohmygod i hate it i hate it i hate it" is just stupid, rude and unhelpful.

I appreciate it must have taken a long time to make, and there are some fantastic new features that make me feel all happy and sproingy ^__^

That was quite possibly the most badly written post I've ever made :|

I agree, I personally don't get on with the site new site yet but I can respect what's been done and can see that the staff have really listened to a lot of people's opinions and thought hard about how they can make things better.

People are impatient too, every project on a scale like this has teething problems but people aren't prepared to ride them out.

It's just like when they change the carpet in your local pub. That's all.

carpet in a bar. wow that's got to smell...

Here's some destructive criticism...US AGAINST THE YANKEES...WHO'S COMING WITH ME?

nicely said indeed tuff, i couldnt agree more. it only took me a few hours to adjust to the site...and now i love it just as much as the old one. many thanks to everyone who worked on the new site...looks great.

eyeballkid said ; "Here's some destructive criticism...US AGAINST THE YANKEES...WHO'S COMING WITH ME?"

Yer dead meat, dood, Yankees are gonna kick everyones asses. Yet again!!

I know I probably sounded like an ungrateful bitch, but I really didn't mean to. I'm sorry, Olivia.

I was discombobulated by the changes but I appreciate the effort, and the whole thing looks impressive. It's just a matter of finding one's way around, like everything else. We seem to have entered the New World.

I think it's that most people have minimal social skills. They don't know any other way to communicate.

Go Sox

Go Cubbies

yea... I suppose that alot of people were just shocked at the change and voiced their opinion.. I know I did.. I'm still waiting for an email to give anyone my constructive criticism...

Edited for Grammatical errors.

[Edited on Oct 09, 2003 by inhaler97]

agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

word though...the comlaints thread annoys me for the most part, constructive comments aside. mad rude. especially in regards to the header banner art...an artist drew those with his own hand...whether I like the banners or not (and I do), that immediately should get some respect. are we adults here or what? there is a better way to express your dissatisfaction then "its ugly and disgusting". thats childish and unecessary.

a lot of heads don't like change - thats what it boils down to. the brats come out of the woodwork everytime something changes up around here. EVERYTIME. "I pay for this so do it my way!" oh please.

as far as the "it looks like a porn site" comments...I think it looks less porn-ish then it did before but...so? this IS a porn site, softcore as it may be. time to stop being ashamed that you pay for an adult site and grow up.

I'm glad this thread was made.

There were indeed a lot of bratty comments in the *first* complain thread which would explain its deletion. The second thread that was created by the staff contains (contained?) only constructive criticism and bar a few double/triple posts was exactly what the staff asked for.

But it has to be pointed out that several peoples contructive criticisms have been deleted for god knows whatever reason and even a request as to why it was deleted has been ignored. That sort of attitude does make people angry and I can understand why some comments have arisen just from that attitude. For a board with fairly open rules about posting this sudden censorship of posting is bound to make people angry, I am now, especially after creating a post and deliberately trying to post constructively only.

Change is good but when you ask for feedback you should not just discard/delete what is said if you dont agree, especially when put in a correct manner. There must be at least 10+ comments that have just been deleted for no reason I can understand. It's just a shame because now it seems to me that what was a fairly free board to express your views is censored in such a way.

Argh I hate this because it's not like me to complain (really) but with what's happening its just wrong

they did not ask for feedback. they were nice enough to start a thread called "bitch and whine here", not "we want your opinion". if sean hadn't started it 3575983457 other people would have. they do not owe anyone an explaination. do you think that if cnn changed their look they would even give you that courtesy?
i just have a sneaking suspicion alot of people used this to dis the site bot for the change, but to get out the frustrations they have about other aspects that may have been building, whether it was in their personal life or with the site itself.
just my thoughts of the matter.

[Edited on Oct 10, 2003 by ava]

Good point and perhaps I misunderstood the purpose of the thread, I think the change was for the better for the most part but I read that thread as asking for peoples opinions of what they did not like.

I am too new to the site to have formed any lingering gripes so maybe the comment was deleted purely on the basis that I have only been a member for a few weeks? But without n00b's there would not be one day Old Skool's. You are probably right that a number of people vented some angst in there as there were definately some 'bizarre' comments, to say the least.

Yes they should stick by their new design, after all they have no doubt spent a lot of time working on it, and its pretty obvious from the rest of the board comments run a bit wild. My only real gripe is now because of the unexplained deletions and it does make me feel a bit angry because I dont understand the reason for it.

Change is a good thing and it shows the staff care enough about the site to keep invigorrating it, I applaud that I honestly do!

Editied for being a spelling muppet

[Edited on Oct 10, 2003 by ShelteredSpirit]

i just think that the thread page count was getting out of control and that's the reason they cut it down. the comments were made for the staff to see, so if they saw them then there was no reason for them to be there anymore.
i bitched in it too the first hour or so after the site came back up, but now i'm used to it. once they fix the bugs everything will be aces.


edited because i have no idea what the word "grammar" means....

[Edited on Oct 10, 2003 by ava]

*edited because i sounded snarky and there is enough of that going around right now*

[Edited on Oct 10, 2003 by ava]