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Jayney

Jayney

SUICIDEGIRL

Australia

MAR 20, 2007 06:25 PM

A FRIEND OF MINE RECIEVED A RATHER HARSH MESSAGE, AIMED AT ALTERNATIVE MODELS AND SG'S.

I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE SLATE SG, BUT THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THIS GUY WAS WHAT HE HAD TO SAY ABOUT TATTOO'D MODELS....:

"wat is up with all these SG's and u lot [other alt models] running around being slags trying to bring the tattoo world down to the level of fucking porn! if ur going to be little slags then thats fine, but why do u have to invole tattoos in ur little world!?? i dont want people thinking that me and people into tattoos for THE ART are the same as u little emo slags!

the world of ink is already surrounded by crap like the SG's so please stop ur 'tattoo chick' wannabe, slaggy, emo image from going over into the ART and PASSION of the tattoo world !!!!!! somthing u will NEVER be involed with! "


AND ALSO THIS COMMENT HE LATER THREW IN:

"Go to the London tattoo con.....see how all the SG's are told to go away from every good tattooist, i.e Steve Byrne, Chad Koeplinger"


YOU MAY NOT CARE, BUT I WANT SOME OPINIONS... DOES THIS GUY ACTUALLY HAVE ANY POINT AT ALL?!!
YOUR THOUGHTS?

Lumenagerie

Lumenagerie

Seattle, WA
May 2005

MAR 20, 2007 06:37 PM

Ugh. Somebody needs to turn down his elitism a notch or two.

Tea

Tea

SUICIDEGIRL

Ontario, Canada

MAR 20, 2007 06:40 PM

I wouldn't take anyone seriously with spelling and grammar that horrible.

Roethke

Roethke

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

MAR 20, 2007 06:44 PM

I don't know!!!!!! I think he should use more exclamation marks to better convey his point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He just sounds like someone who thinks that anything erotic is necessarily trashy and dirty. Which is funny, because the world of tattooing is still considered trashy and dirty by much of the world, so I don't see how SG or anything like it could possibly be bringing it down. And, he sounds like an elitist.

kittykatznme

kittykatznme

Verdun, QC
March 2006

MAR 20, 2007 06:45 PM

I don't look like someone who has tatts, but that guy seems to have a problem with tatts. Many people on SG, models and friends, have some great pieces of art, and there is no better place to see them than SG. If he thinks that this is porn, he needs to have a better look at the internet.

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

MAR 20, 2007 07:12 PM

i don't think he has a point.

He's yelling at people that are actually doing something decent for the tattoo community. Pick up a tattoo magazine sometime and you see tattooed models all the time. I don't understand what he wants?

Any good Tattoo artist should welcome the idea of an SG approaching them for a tattoo, you can't get more advertising than putting your work on someone that's going to be proud and happy to show it. If i ever ran across an artist that said "i would never tattoo an SG", i'd probably walk away from him. If he's that afraid to have his artwork be that popular, he isn't good enough to tattoo me.

If he wants to attack someone dragging down the art and passion of the tattoo world, he needs to go attack the craptastic, dirty little shops that will tattoo anything on anyone, drunk or sober and not worry about repercussions or the person's health. That's where the biggest stigma comes from when regarding tattoos.

The letter if anything made me think this guy is an egotistical douche bag.

saltonsea

saltonsea

Toronto, ON
July 2004

MAR 20, 2007 07:53 PM

borderline retard said:
"wat is up with all these SG's and u lot [other alt models] running around being slags trying to bring the tattoo world down to the level of fucking porn! if ur going to be little slags then thats fine, but why do u have to invole tattoos in ur little world!?? i dont want people thinking that me and people into tattoos for THE ART are the same as u little emo slags!

the world of ink is already surrounded by crap like the SG's so please stop ur 'tattoo chick' wannabe, slaggy, emo image from going over into the ART and PASSION of the tattoo world !!!!!! somthing u will NEVER be involed with! "



is conclusive proof that he truly knows nothing about the ART and PASSION of the tattoo world.

"bring the tattoo world down"....does he mean from the stereotype of criminality?

i don't know what his problem is. But I, and every tattooed straight man and artist that i know (and many women and artists), love naked women... period.
and most of the time, find it hotter that they are into tattoos too.

Drake

Drake

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

MAR 20, 2007 07:57 PM

He means UP to the level of porn. wink

Roethke

Roethke

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

MAR 20, 2007 08:02 PM

Drake said:
He means UP to the level of porn. wink



Drake is wise and clever.

Up with porn!

TAFKASP

TAFKASP

Oakland, CA
June 2003

MAR 20, 2007 08:02 PM

he's probably the same guy who calls popular bands he used to like "sell outs".

some people have such narrow views of what things are "supposed" to be -- the so-called "purists".

fuck him.

AcidEvangelist

AcidEvangelist

Minneapolis, MN
March 2004

MAR 20, 2007 08:02 PM

Tea said:
I wouldn't take anyone seriously with spelling and grammar that horrible.




Agreed. Dude should have been a little more PASSIONATE about English class.

codechino

codechino

USA
June 2004

MAR 20, 2007 09:30 PM

AcidEvangelist said:

Tea said:
I wouldn't take anyone seriously with spelling and grammar that horrible.




Agreed. Dude should have been a little more PASSIONATE about English class.



I'm fairly certain that folks unable to communicate coherently (!!!!!!!!!!!!) do more damage to the "tattoo world" than some (from what I've seen) well-educated girls showing some skin now and again.

Trevallion

Trevallion

Murfreesboro, TN
February 2004

MAR 20, 2007 09:54 PM

What's a slag?

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

Baton Rouge, LA
January 2006

MAR 20, 2007 10:16 PM

Tea said:
I wouldn't take anyone seriously with spelling and grammar that horrible.



My thoughts exactly.

Trevallion said:
What's a slag?



Slag is British slang for a slut/whore.

ZetaMale

ZetaMale

Tallahassee, FL
April 2006

MAR 20, 2007 10:56 PM

I, of course, echo every sentiment expressed above.

What diminishes his credibility even further is his repeated use of the word "slag" without any other synonyms. Being from this side of the Atlantic, I didn't know the word until RudieCantFail defined it. Had he instead thrown in a "slut," a "tramp," and maybe even a "harlot" to go with the one "slag," I would not be so dismissive and actually consider his argument.

I'd still dismiss it on the basis that he makes no actual argument, though.

TheFuckOffKid

TheFuckOffKid

NEWSWIRE

Australia

MAR 20, 2007 10:57 PM

Roethke said:
He just sounds like someone who thinks that anything erotic is necessarily trashy and dirty. Which is funny, because the world of tattooing is still considered trashy and dirty by much of the world, so I don't see how SG or anything like it could possibly be bringing it down.



It's what I think of as "at least I'm not that!" syndrome.

e.g.

I want to be part of a subculture and feel a little differentiated from everyone else by belonging to my subculture. I also have slight feelings of defensiveness about being looked down on because of my association with said subculture so I talk it up with lots of bravado and bluster.

I then separate and marginalise one particular sub-group associated with my subculture, expressing disdain and disapproval of their appropriation of aspects of my subculture, and mark them out as "not really belonging".

So when the world of tattoos is looked down on as trashy and dirty, I can say "Nah, man, it's art! At least I'm not one of those SGs, cos all those tattooed slags are turning it into being about porn! No way, man, not me!"

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

MAR 20, 2007 11:16 PM

Trevallion said:
What's a slag?



Impurities in molten steel when it is superheated. The impurities rise to the surface and are the "scarfed" off using either a scarfing torch or a scarfing robot, the impurities that turn to a gravel like substance is then called "slag". It is usually collected, processed and used in asphalt.

or if you're not in the steel industry and from the UK, it's a slut.

actionandaction

actionandaction

Willoughby, OH
August 2006

MAR 20, 2007 11:25 PM

this was actually a dare to see how many times the word slag could be used in an insulting comment towards SG's.....he was 4 shy of the world record.

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

MAR 20, 2007 11:34 PM

Sounds like every badly typed, baseless anti-SG chain letter ever sent.

Friedhamster

friedhamster

I'm lost
January 2006

MAR 20, 2007 11:36 PM

"Slags?" Sorry, it's that a UK thing? I think the guy is an idiot. He may as well email some grandmother that does 'mature' porn and say "what's wrong with you old bag?!?! you make grandmas look bad!!!" He's a fool.

Saraphine

Saraphine

SUICIDEGIRL

Pennsylvania, USA

MAR 20, 2007 11:41 PM

I love how all of the sudden the "Tattoo World" is a pure and wonderful place with nothing but art lovers and scientists discussing philosophy....

I hope it was from this guy

Phantasy

Phantasy

Australia
October 2005

MAR 20, 2007 11:58 PM

RudieCantFail said:

Tea said:
I wouldn't take anyone seriously with spelling and grammar that horrible.



My thoughts exactly.

Trevallion said:
What's a slag?



Slag is British slang for a slut/whore.



In Australia we just call them "mum".

Morrigan

Morrigan

SUICIDEGIRL

Sweden

MAR 20, 2007 11:58 PM

Well i belive it only causes unnecessary drama to help him voice his opinion.

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

Baton Rouge, LA
January 2006

MAR 21, 2007 12:04 AM

Phantasy said:

RudieCantFail said:
Slag is British slang for a slut/whore.



In Australia we just call them "mum".



Well played, madame, well played indeed. biggrin

Cecilia

Cecilia

SUICIDEGIRL

Denmark

MAR 21, 2007 07:01 AM

Yeah, it´s really too bad. Stop it.

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