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lil_tuffy

lil_tuffy

MODERATOR

San Francisco, CA

JUL 12, 2009 02:32 PM

There seems to be this awesome dichotomy pertaining to the use of the "Search" to find existing thread subjects versus the bumping of older, existing threads.

If a member starts a thread regarding a subject that has been previously discussed then the majority of responses consist of "use the search function, noob!"

And yet, if the same person manages to locate an older thread about a subject and bumps it with new commentary they are immediately met with "holy thread bump" or "way to threadurrect the dead."

Other communities have forums where threads expire and delete after a year. What is your opinion about this phenomenon? Do you have other suggestions? Is the barrage of these types of comments bothersome? Is it worth flagging over? Should they be deleted?

Niobe

Niobe

I'm lost
April 2003

JUL 12, 2009 02:35 PM

If toothpicmoe shows up with that image....can he get zotted? That is my opinion. biggrin

Niobe

Niobe

I'm lost
April 2003

JUL 12, 2009 02:40 PM

But really, I think people need to learn to stop posting in threads that they contribute nothing to. If someone starts a new thread that has been discussed, I don't see the harm in pointing out links for that person. But showing up in that thread to call out the newb, is really lame.

It's all a personal choice to know when to keep your mouth shut, or when to act like a douche.

Morrigan

Morrigan

SUICIDEGIRL

Sweden

JUL 12, 2009 02:46 PM

I reaqlly dont care, if its a good bump or a good new thread it will live on to another day, if not it will fade away.

_Chaos_

_Chaos_

Lompoc, CA
February 2006

JUL 12, 2009 02:51 PM

I like being able to go through old threads if i dont feel like starting a whole new one. Maybe just have them lock after so long?

I actually like seeing old old threads being bumped, but it doesnt bother me if someone starts a new one.

Really it just seems like another thing for people to bitch about wink

CassyLee

CassyLee

Capon Bridge, WV
August 2007

JUL 12, 2009 02:53 PM

I think either way noobs are going to be given shit just b/c they are noobs. Especially in the boards. I don't think the problem is the threads. I think the problem is people being condescending just b/c they have been on the site longer. I personally like reading old threads from time to time so I would be sad if they were deleted. Some old threads are so funny and simply epic. Can you just delete single threads? Like if someone starts a thread and then finds out it's useless instead of just locking delete it all together.\

I think more should be done about how members, noobs in particular are treated. These people just paid to use the sight and get started off by being bullied and picked on like this is high school.

And I agree with Niobe. If I never see that stupid picture again I'll be happy.

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

I'm lost
August 2004

JUL 12, 2009 02:55 PM

I'm fine with thread resurrections if doing so is pertinent. It's the comments that are the problem.

I didn't know it was that pervasive of a problem.

CoyoteMike

CoyoteMike

Iowa City, IA
May 2006

JUL 12, 2009 02:56 PM

How about a 2 year, then delete timetable? That gives time for new information to come up, which can be added, but still clears off some of the jumble.

_Chaos_

_Chaos_

Lompoc, CA
February 2006

JUL 12, 2009 02:57 PM

Yeah now that I think about it, I'd be kind of sad if older threads were deleted. As silly as it may sound, I have a lot of memories in certain threads (esp in the pregnant group) that I do like to look back at from time to time.

Maybe make it a group desicion? Is that possible? Each group owner has an option where the group can decide? For the boards it might come in handy, but in groups, err I guess it really depends.

SnakePlissken

SnakePlissken

Corvallis, OR
December 2002

JUL 12, 2009 03:01 PM

I'd say an effective bump is one that adds to the conversation or reignites the topic. Of course this is negated if the comment in question is located in a "dead thread" full of zots and greys. Extra dumb points if the bumper is giving their two cents to an inactive or zotted op.

I think removing old threads after a time period would be an awful loss in terms of SG board history. So many classics out there waiting for their time to shine again.

Niobe

Niobe

I'm lost
April 2003

JUL 12, 2009 03:02 PM

I am more for the idea of threads getting locked than deleted. Looking back on old threads can be informative. And it's nice to link to them if needed.

There are some issues I can think of, that maybe people just want to search and read about, but don't want to contribute to.

wyldechylde

wyldechylde

San Jose, CA
November 2004

JUL 12, 2009 03:07 PM

It really depends on the thread. I've seen some threads come back that I missed before that i joined in on and I've seen some threads I wish had never ben posted. The complaining about the search function has been old for many years now and has already been stated only seems to be a reason to bitch. I ignore such comments most of the time. As for old threads being resurrected if people are going to do then let them do it no matter how long back the thread was made.

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

JUL 12, 2009 03:21 PM

I think if the bump actually has something useful to say, no problem. If it's just someone going "lol", I don't see the point.

ASinForHim

ASinForHim

Brazil
June 2006

JUL 12, 2009 03:29 PM

if locking/deleting old threads becomes necessary - or practical - , I vote for locking. some of them are really nice to be deleted.

sminks

sminks

HOPEFUL

United Kingdom

JUL 12, 2009 03:33 PM

SnakePlissken said:


I think removing old threads after a time period would be an awful loss in terms of SG board history. So many classics out there waiting for their time to shine again.



i agree, not a day goes by on here that i dont look back on old threads and laugh my ass off or simply read up on info

issue_

issue_

HOPEFUL

I'm lost

JUL 12, 2009 03:38 PM

as long as it does not apply to the silliness board. smile

Scotty

Scotty

SUICIDEGIRL

Australia

JUL 12, 2009 03:40 PM

I wouldn't mind the expiring and deleting thing.

If a thread is really really old, the information in it is often out of date and unhelpful, and you have to read through pages and pages of unhelpful, out of date crap, it to get anything out of it.

New, up to date threads = win.

Dryad

Dryad

Asheville, NC
July 2008

JUL 12, 2009 03:46 PM

Scotty said:
I wouldn't mind the expiring and deleting thing.

If a thread is really really old, the information in it is often out of date and unhelpful, and you have to read through pages and pages of unhelpful, out of date crap, it to get anything out of it.

New, up to date threads = win.



I was just about to say this. If someone bumps a thread from like 2004, especially a site-relevant thread (not so much with movies or music or whatever), then so much has changed that the OP is no longer relevant. These threads should be locked but not deleted. smile


Issue_ said:
as long as it does not apply to the silliness board. smile



And everything in Silliness is "relevant" forever. biggrin

Crivelli

Crivelli

United Kingdom
January 2005

JUL 12, 2009 03:50 PM

Is the issue new members raising older threads or older members razing new members?

toothpickmoe

toothpickmoe

Los Angeles, CA
May 2004

JUL 12, 2009 03:58 PM

I generally only post "that picture" if the thread bump is so incredibly odd I can't believe it. But I like the policy here of letting threads live and get bumped when the bump is relevant to the original post. If it's an issue of cutting back on work for the server and the mods, I can understand the want to delete ancient threads. However, as has been pointed out, the board history here is wonderful and something I'd like to see stick around.

Older members will always razz the new members, thread deletions or no.

BoxOfficePoison

BoxOfficePoison

Portland, OR
June 2003

JUL 12, 2009 03:59 PM

i just had a real good nostalgia filled time reading through some way old 2003-2004 posts and would kind of dislike seeing the anal fucking dick party deleted.

I would like to see a lot less "use the search noob" the site has been here for 9 years pretty much everything has been said already. My .02.

Tragique

Tragique

SUICIDEGIRL

Tunisia

JUL 12, 2009 04:22 PM

I think most people know when it is and isn't neccessary to bump an old thread, and those that don't are usually just getting used to the site still. I don't think it's an issue and it would be a shame to delete old threads. Everyone gets called a noob at some point, it's like an initiation, but there's no need to be sarcastic or rude about it like some people seem to get a kick out of doing. Overall I think SG is one of the easiest forums to post in because mostly everyone is friendly and helpful.

SilverSurfer

SilverSurfer

MODERATOR

Chicago, IL

JUL 12, 2009 04:50 PM

I'm strongly in favor of leaving all the old threads out there and not locking them. I agree that it's a judgment call on whether it's better to resurrect an old thread or start a new one, depending on what the old thread is like and what you add to it. So, I think we should just try to be less critical of people, n00bs or not, who either bump old threads or start new ones.

Keep in mind also that if someone starts a new thread and someone else replies by linking to one or more old threads about the same subject, they're not necessarily criticizing the OP. They could just be trying to help them by pointing out old threads that might be of interest. Like with a lot of things, how you say something can be just as important as what you say.

Shal

Shal

Los Angeles, CA
October 2002

JUL 12, 2009 05:12 PM

If it's a thread that's been done to death around here (like "LADEEZ, SHOULD I SHAVE MY JUNK?!?!") then the person starting the thread deserves a "use the search function, n00b!"

If it's a thread that's been super-long-dead and has no real reason to be bumped (like if someone bumped a thread from 2004 just to add "+1" or something, then that person deserves a couple "wtf did you do that for?" comments.

If it's an old thread that gets resurrected because the person has something interesting and relevant to say, it's okay for older members to be like "wow, this thread is old" for a comment or two, but then let it go and see if the conversation continues.


Bumping old threads is fine as long as the person bumping it has something interesting to say that makes the topic relevant and discussable again.

Older members who dogpile on someone bumping an old thread should have their comments deleted.

I'd just say "use some common sense, people" but that seems to be fairly lacking around here sometimes. wink

jstduckie

jstduckie

I'm lost
June 2007

JUL 12, 2009 05:24 PM

Shalome said:
If it's a thread that's been done to death around here (like "LADEEZ, SHOULD I SHAVE MY JUNK?!?!") then the person starting the thread deserves a "use the search function, n00b!"

If it's a thread that's been super-long-dead and has no real reason to be bumped (like if someone bumped a thread from 2004 just to add "+1" or something, then that person deserves a couple "wtf did you do that for?" comments.

If it's an old thread that gets resurrected because the person has something interesting and relevant to say, it's okay for older members to be like "wow, this thread is old" for a comment or two, but then let it go and see if the conversation continues.


Bumping old threads is fine as long as the person bumping it has something interesting to say that makes the topic relevant and discussable again.

Older members who dogpile on someone bumping an old thread should have their comments deleted.

I'd just say "use some common sense, people" but that seems to be fairly lacking around here sometimes. wink



common sense???...wow, that still exists?? tongue

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