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Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

NOV 03, 2009 09:32 PM

Voters across the country have put a rubber-stamp on Obama's socialist economic policies when they elected Democrat Bill Owens defeated Conservative teabagger nutbag Doug Hoffman in NY-23 despite the support of Republican luminaries such as Fred Thompson, Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin (and the fact that a Democrat hasn't represented that district since the 1800s. Literally!). Meanwhile, voters in California elected Democrat John Garamendi to represent the 10th district in an open race. This represented a clean Democratic sweep of every single House race up for grabs this election day. Incredible!

I personally think this might reflect, for people who are eligible to vote for members of the House of Representatives at least, frustration with Republican attempts to stop democrats from enacting heath care reform, cap and trade and economic reform to help ordinary folks.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

NOV 03, 2009 09:40 PM

biggrin

ckdexterhaven

ckdexterhaven

USA
December 2005

NOV 03, 2009 09:45 PM

Subrosa said:
teabagger nutbag...


Kinky.

Rafi

Rafi

Santa Monica, CA
January 2003

NOV 03, 2009 09:51 PM

Overall a wash tonight, with two Democrats picking up House seats and two GOPers winning gubernatorial races - although no doubt the split will somehow be framed as 'a harsh rebuke of Obama.'

I was most interested and most emotionally invested in the Maine referendum on gay marriage, where unfortunately it seems at the moment that marriage equality is in danger of suffering another narrow loss, although results are still incoming.

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

NOV 03, 2009 09:52 PM

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

NOV 03, 2009 09:53 PM

Rafi said:
I was most interested and most emotionally invested in the Maine referendum on gay marriage, where unfortunately it seems at the moment that marriage equality is in danger of suffering another narrow loss, although results are still incoming.



Soooooo don't want to talk about this. Ugh.

Rafi

Rafi

Santa Monica, CA
January 2003

NOV 03, 2009 09:59 PM

Bloomberg's win in NYC was shockingly close.

gfvella

gfvella

Australia
November 2004

NOV 03, 2009 10:03 PM



and so the GOP gets further and further away from reality. Can't see how this helps them. Denying reality only works to enthuse the faithful. I suppose they might be hoping that disillusionment with Obama's "failures" will mean small turn outs at the mid terms.

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

NOV 03, 2009 10:06 PM

gfvella said:
and so the GOP gets further and further away from reality. Can't see how this helps them. Denying reality only works to enthuse the faithful.


"The faithful" is LITERALLY the only people left who will call themselves Republican in public. They aren't on a quest to win elections, they're on a quest for ideological purity.

And I say: best of luck to them!

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

NOV 03, 2009 10:09 PM

Subrosa said:

I personally think this might reflect, for people who are eligible to vote for members of the House of Representatives at least, frustration with Republican attempts to stop democrats from enacting heath care reform, cap and trade and economic reform to help ordinary folks.



I think it has less to do with larger national issues and is more of a "fuck you" to the "Republicans" who stuck their national noses in a local election. When the Conservative candidate doesn't even live in or know jack shit about the district he's running in it's a bad sign. When the people endorsing him are obviously doing it to further their own goals it certainly doesn't help.

ARRR!!!

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

NOV 03, 2009 10:20 PM

FreakPirate said:

Subrosa said:

I personally think this might reflect, for people who are eligible to vote for members of the House of Representatives at least, frustration with Republican attempts to stop democrats from enacting heath care reform, cap and trade and economic reform to help ordinary folks.



I think it has less to do with larger national issues and is more of a "fuck you" to the "Republicans" who stuck their national noses in a local election. When the Conservative candidate doesn't even live in or know jack shit about the district he's running in it's a bad sign. When the people endorsing him are obviously doing it to further their own goals it certainly doesn't help.

ARRR!!!



A few things: As silly as Hoffman's ideas were, I will say that it's my understanding that Hoffman used to live in the district but was at least somewhat recently gerrymandered out of it. IIRC he lives 10 miles outside the (heavily gerrymandered) district, so it's not like he's Hillary Clinton or Alan Keyes here.

Secondly, this election in truth means almost nothing about national politics. I'm just piling onto the mound of stupid that is SergeantPsycho's abortion of a thread.

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

NOV 03, 2009 10:31 PM

Subrosa said:

A few things: As silly as Hoffman's ideas were, I will say that it's my understanding that Hoffman used to live in the district but was at least somewhat recently gerrymandered out of it. IIRC he lives 10 miles outside the (heavily gerrymandered) district, so it's not like he's Hillary Clinton or Alan Keyes here.

Secondly, this election in truth means almost nothing about national politics. I'm just piling onto the mound of stupid that is SergeantPsycho's abortion of a thread.



The living outside the district thing seems less important than the "not knowing dick about what's actually going on there". The one interview I heard with him seemed to indicate that he didn't know a single important issue going on in the district he was foolishly hoping to represent. Having bullshit opinions about national politics is okay if you're running for national office. Doesn't really help when a pothole needs fixed or a town needs new road signs.

That said, I think it's fantastic that the conservative wankfest has led to a Democratic victory in a district that has been Republican friendly for over a hundred years.

ARRR!!!

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

NOV 03, 2009 11:13 PM

This is great!

Now come spend money in Ohio's casinos!!!

MisterSatan

MisterSatan

Portland, OR
August 2002

NOV 04, 2009 12:15 AM

DevilsReject said:
This is great!

Now come spend money in Ohio's casinos!!!



Fun times in Cleveland today! STILL CLEVELAND!!!

TheFuckOffKid

TheFuckOffKid

NEWSWIRE

Australia

NOV 04, 2009 03:09 AM

MisterSatan said:

DevilsReject said:
This is great!

Now come spend money in Ohio's casinos!!!



Fun times in Cleveland today! STILL CLEVELAND!!!



"We're not Detroit!"

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

NOV 04, 2009 03:11 AM

TheFuckOffKid said:

MisterSatan said:

DevilsReject said:
This is great!

Now come spend money in Ohio's casinos!!!



Fun times in Cleveland today! STILL CLEVELAND!!!



"We're not Detroit!"



aaaaand.....you can probably pick up tickets real cheap to see our professional football team.....

SergeantPsycho

SergeantPsycho

USA
January 2007

NOV 04, 2009 03:36 AM

Subrosa said:
Voters across the country have put a rubber-stamp on Obama's socialist economic policies when they elected Democrat Bill Owens defeated Conservative teabagger nutbag Doug Hoffman in NY-23 despite the support of Republican luminaries such as Fred Thompson, Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin (and the fact that a Democrat hasn't represented that district since the 1800s. Literally!). Meanwhile, voters in California elected Democrat John Garamendi to represent the 10th district in an open race. This represented a clean Democratic sweep of every single House race up for grabs this election day. Incredible!

I personally think this might reflect, for people who are eligible to vote for members of the House of Representatives at least, frustration with Republican attempts to stop democrats from enacting heath care reform, cap and trade and economic reform to help ordinary folks.



Sounds like somebody needs a hug. XD

Looking at the NY-23 numbers, i'm impressed that a third party candidate got that close. Not bad, actually.

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

I'm lost
August 2004

NOV 04, 2009 03:45 AM



HA!

DevilsReject said:

TheFuckOffKid said:

MisterSatan said:

DevilsReject said:
This is great!

Now come spend money in Ohio's casinos!!!



Fun times in Cleveland today! STILL CLEVELAND!!!



"We're not Detroit!"



aaaaand.....you can probably pick up tickets real cheap to see our professional football team.....



You guys have a football team?

mydogfarted

mydogfarted

Oakland, NJ
June 2003

NOV 04, 2009 05:58 AM

MrCrisp said:

DevilsReject said:

TheFuckOffKid said:

MisterSatan said:

DevilsReject said:
This is great!

Now come spend money in Ohio's casinos!!!



Fun times in Cleveland today! STILL CLEVELAND!!!



"We're not Detroit!"



aaaaand.....you can probably pick up tickets real cheap to see our professional football team.....



You guys have a football team?



They do, but I wouldn't call them very professional.

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

NOV 04, 2009 06:52 AM

SergeantPsycho said:

Subrosa said:
Voters across the country have put a rubber-stamp on Obama's socialist economic policies when they elected Democrat Bill Owens defeated Conservative teabagger nutbag Doug Hoffman in NY-23 despite the support of Republican luminaries such as Fred Thompson, Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin (and the fact that a Democrat hasn't represented that district since the 1800s. Literally!). Meanwhile, voters in California elected Democrat John Garamendi to represent the 10th district in an open race. This represented a clean Democratic sweep of every single House race up for grabs this election day. Incredible!

I personally think this might reflect, for people who are eligible to vote for members of the House of Representatives at least, frustration with Republican attempts to stop democrats from enacting heath care reform, cap and trade and economic reform to help ordinary folks.



Sounds like somebody needs a hug. XD


Not necessarily, it could provide an indicator for the 2010 elections. It might make some in our political establishment stand up, take notice, and act in ways they have already been acting.

Looking at the NY-23 numbers, i'm impressed that a third party candidate got that close. Not bad, actually.



Hoffman had nearly every bit of the Republican party machinery behind him in a district where being from the Democratic party has been toxic for over a century. He was not a typical third party candidate.

Make no mistake, this is a TOTAL AND COMPLETE rebuke of everything that you (as a self-professed conservative or libertarian or whatever the hell you claim to be but really aren't) stand for. Sorry dude. Science.

hawkorhandsaw

hawkorhandsaw

Chicago, IL
March 2009

NOV 04, 2009 06:54 AM

mydogfarted said:

MrCrisp said:
You guys have a football team?


They do, but I wouldn't call them very professional.



i wouldn't call that football

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

NOV 04, 2009 07:11 AM

There's also this.

WASHINGTON (CNN) - The number of Americans who think things are going well in the country today is at its highest level in two years, according to a new national poll.


ipso facto, QED, res ipsa loquiter... EVERYONE LOVES THEM SOME SOCIALISM.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

NOV 04, 2009 07:59 AM



I got dizzy from the spin.

RandomNerd

RandomNerd

I'm lost
January 2005

NOV 04, 2009 08:11 AM

So Sarah Palin is political poison now?

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

NOV 04, 2009 08:12 AM

RandomNerd said:
So Sarah Palin is political poison now?



What do you mean NOW?

ARRR!!!

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