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fencer66

fencer66

I'm lost
November 2009

APR 04, 2011 02:43 PM

I read this article on line and thought it may be good for our active board.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42349181/ns/business-world_business/

MisterSatan

MisterSatan

Portland, OR
August 2002

APR 04, 2011 02:48 PM

Well, if jobs don't come from companies hiring people, where else would they come from?

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

APR 04, 2011 02:53 PM

I don't think companies are necessarily responsible for creating and keeping jobs that they don't need. And whether they should or not, the simple fact is that they won't unless forced to. There does need to be a force to counteract the natural business inclination to make cuts wherever possible.

Mark_plus_Beer

Mark_plus_Beer

United Kingdom
August 2005

APR 04, 2011 03:03 PM

They can be given incentives to but they don't have to.

semiretiredpunk

semiretiredpunk

USA
March 2007

APR 04, 2011 03:36 PM

Very good but very depressing article.

Keith

Keith

Oklahoma City, OK
August 2002

APR 04, 2011 04:11 PM

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ArtHippo

ArtHippo

Edwardsville, KS
December 2007

APR 04, 2011 04:41 PM

Keith said:
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For some reason, this doesn't surprise me. And there goes the paper bag.

Mr_Matt_

Mr_Matt_

Pompano Beach, FL
July 2005

APR 04, 2011 06:23 PM

fencer66 said:
I read this article on line and thought it may be good for our active board.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42349181/ns/business-world_business/



Could any of you three play hard ass in a better way?

ArtHippo

ArtHippo

Edwardsville, KS
December 2007

APR 04, 2011 06:26 PM

Mr_Matt_ said:

fencer66 said:
I read this article on line and thought it may be good for our active board.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42349181/ns/business-world_business/



Could any of you three play hard ass in a better way?



I seriously doubt any of them knows how to play 'hard ass'. I just don't know if I should laugh or facepalm.

IDGAS

IDGAS

Jackson Heights, NY
March 2004

APR 04, 2011 08:18 PM

Not hard ass
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fencer66

fencer66

I'm lost
November 2009

APR 05, 2011 04:38 AM

The one thng I notice about people with weak intellects is they move directly to ignoring the discussion and into personal criticism. The other thing I notice is that the minds on this board agree that companies are not responsible to create jobs. I agree. The government is responsible to create the best climate for jobs. I suggest that we tariff all goods made off shore at the labor content and use minimum wage as the hourly rate.

Mythryl

Mythryl

Davenport, FL
February 2011

APR 05, 2011 05:15 AM

fencer66 said:
The one thng I notice about people with weak intellects is they move directly to ignoring the discussion and into personal criticism.



I don't always agree with people here either but I would hardly call them people with weak intellects.As a matter of fact I happily concede to the fact that there are quite a few here smarter and/or more knowledgeable than I am. Just because they don't think the way you does not make them stupid or less knowledgeable. I don't know what you think playing hardass is but making yourself look like an idiot is not it.

TheFuckOffKid

TheFuckOffKid

NEWSWIRE

Australia

APR 05, 2011 05:38 AM

fencer66 said:
I suggest that we blah blah blah...



I suggest that we train pigs to fly.

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

APR 05, 2011 05:40 AM

And you're countering these 'weak intellects' with... personal criticism? You don't see the problem there?

While it's true that we need to move more jobs back into the US, simply slapping down tariffs isn't the best way to go about it, especially alone. We'd end up lowering quality of life almost across the board, because there would need to be a sudden, massive reinvestment in American industry--the cost of which would come out of consumers' pockets. Consumers' pockets are pretty empty already, you may have noticed.

What we need to do is shift the profits from economic expansion away from the capital markets and back into the middle and bottom of the economy. If a company expands, its workers should benefit from that expansion. We can manage that by creating tax breaks for jobs and job improvements, and by taxing the everliving fuck out of the financial industry. Then, as needed, we can selectively apply tariffs.

You have a very weak grasp of geopolitics. Mine probably isn't the strongest; I certainly don't claim to be an expert. But I at least understand that the best way to avoid eventual war with China--which we do not want--is to keep them as a trading partner. Than means we have to be careful with tariffs. Despite our military strength, we are primarily a trade-based empire. I don't want us to become an empire on the terms that Britain, Spain, and Rome were empires, because those methods are even further out of line with the values our nation was founded on than our current activities.

Metaverse

Metaverse

USA
March 2005

APR 05, 2011 05:47 AM

fencer66 said:
The one thng I notice about people with weak intellects is they move directly to ignoring the discussion and into personal criticism. The other thing I notice is that the minds on this board agree that companies are not responsible to create jobs. I agree. The government is responsible to create the best climate for jobs. I suggest that we tariff all goods made off shore at the labor content and use minimum wage as the hourly rate.



Who knows what intellect this is coming from considering you have 3 different people posting from the same account...but maybe all 3 together will equal....nah...probably not.

Clidna

Clidna

Canada
January 2005

APR 05, 2011 07:19 AM

Come on now, maybe it was a figure of speech - maybe he/she is all one person with three personalities, and the hating social workers thing is come by honestly.

What? It could be true.