A high school sophomore from New Jersey is challenging Rep. Michele Bachmann to a debate on civics and the U.S. Constitution. In an open letter to to Bachmann, Amy Myers of Cherry Hill, N.J., said, “I have found quite a few of your statements regarding The Constitution of the United States, the quality of public school education and general U.S. civics matters to be factually incorrect, inaccurately applied or grossly distorted.
Oh snap!
Dear Representative Bachmann,
My name is Amy Myers. I am a Cherry Hill, New Jersey sophomore attending Cherry Hill High School East. As a typical high school student, I have found quite a few of your statements regarding The Constitution of the United States, the quality of public school education and general U.S. civics matters to be factually incorrect, inaccurately applied or grossly distorted. The frequency and scope of these comments prompted me to write this letter.
Though I am not in your home district, or even your home state, you are a United States Representative of some prominence who is subject to national media coverage. News outlets and websites across this country profile your causes and viewpoints on a regular basis. As one of a handful of women in Congress, you hold a distinct privilege and responsibility to better represent your gender nationally. The statements you make help to serve an injustice to not only the position of Congresswoman, but women everywhere. Though politically expedient, incorrect comments cast a shadow on your person and by unfortunate proxy, both your supporters and detractors alike often generalize this shadow to women as a whole.
Rep. Bachmann, the frequent inability you have shown to accurately and factually present even the most basic information about the United States led me to submit the follow challenge, pitting my public education against your advanced legal education:
I, Amy Myers, do hereby challenge Representative Michele Bachmann to a Public Forum Debate and/or Fact Test on The Constitution of the United States, United States History and United States Civics.
Hopefully, we will be able to meet for such an event, as it would prove to be enlightening.
Sincerely yours,
Amy Myers
For those who don't feel like reading the whole letter, here is the summary:
Dear Representative Bachmann,
You're a dumbass. Even a 15 year old can see that, and you're not even from my state. You're an embarrassment to woman and our country. Meet me in the playground at 3pm and prepare for a verbal smackdown.
Towelly said:
Well, she does have a law degree, so in theory she had to have taken at least one constitutional law course.
She eventually went to a well respected school (William & Mary Law School) for her Master of Laws (LL.M.) degree, but she got her Juris Doctor from Oral Roberts 'University' if that tells you anything.
mydogfarted said:
For those who don't feel like reading the whole letter, here is the summary:
Dear Representative Bachmann,
You're a dumbass. Even a 15 year old can see that, and you're not even from my state. You're an embarrassment to woman and our country. Meet me in the playground at 3pm and prepare for a verbal smackdown.
High school girls can be so mean. It sickens me to see girls bullying those that can't defend themselves. Who will stand up for poor, defenseless Michelle?
Towelly said:
Well, she does have a law degree, so in theory she had to have taken at least one constitutional law course.
i went to school for computer programming and had a month of C programming. Ask me how much I remember.
She's a Congresswoman... If she can't remember more about the constitution than you can remember of C programming, perhaps she should consider another line of work.
I think what this girl is doing is awesome. I wish more citizens would challenge their government in ways that make sense (as in, ways that don't involve birth certificates or "uncommon guests").
Towelly said:
Well, she does have a law degree, so in theory she had to have taken at least one constitutional law course.
i went to school for computer programming and had a month of C programming. Ask me how much I remember.
She's a Congresswoman... If she can't remember more about the constitution than you can remember of C programming, perhaps she should consider another line of work.
I think what this girl is doing is awesome. I wish more citizens would challenge their government in ways that make sense (as in, ways that don't involve birth certificates or "uncommon guests").
I think most of these congressional officials would benefit from repeating HS PEL sometimes their sheer ignorance is astounding to me, as well as scary.
When you read through the comments in the article posted by the OP and see how the people supporting Bachmann are calling the high school sophmore an "elitist" you start to realize that the conservatives use of this term is really perverse. It shows how anti-intellectual conservatives have become for them to use the word "elitist" to describe a person that hasnt even yet obtained a high school diploma. The "elite" used to represent people of a higher social class, or people who have obtained an advantage through great wealth. Conservatives arent bothered by that. What bothers conservatives is someone with an IQ.
LEtranger said:
When you read through the comments in the article posted by the OP and see how the people supporting Bachmann are calling the high school sophmore an "elitist" you start to realize that the conservatives use of this term is really perverse. It shows how anti-intellectual conservatives have become for them to use the word "elitist" to describe a person that hasnt even yet obtained a high school diploma. The "elite" used to represent people of a higher social class, or people who have obtained an advantage through great wealth. Conservatives arent bothered by that. What bothers conservatives is someone with an IQ.
That's because they themselves don't have one. You see, if Amy's letter had been written to Obama, included a lot of "y'all", misspellings, conservative platitudes, and given off the distinct impression that she was home-schooled by her home-schooled parents who were home-schooled by their home-schooled parents, then conservatives would love it.
The problem is, she spelled correctly, came across as very mature for a 15-year-old, and, I think it's safe to say that, since she has the confidence to challenge Michelle Bachmann to a debate, probably knows a hell of a lot more than Bachmann and her fans about the constitution and US History.
Oh... sorry... too stereotypical of Tea-Party conservatives?
Towelly said:
Well, she does have a law degree, so in theory she had to have taken at least one constitutional law course.
Well, as you should know, most lawyers aren't any more or less knowledgeable than anyone else.
Her public statements are routinely so idiotic from a legal and historical perspective that they defy explanation. Which, combined with her intellectual pedigree makes me suspect that her saying something doesn't mean she believes any of it. I have no evidence to support this, but I have a strong hunch most of Ms. Bachmann's act is kabuki theater.
Popcorn anyone? This should be fun! Thank you Amy for doing this. We need more people like you in this world. Let me know when those front row seats go on sale
You know its almost irrationally disgusting how reflexive the Tea Party Republicans are....Its almost scary ...they are hell bent on being the opposition regardless of the Stance on the left, even if its in league with their own i am convinced they would flip flop to perpetuate this evil stigma about Liberals to there really all white very scared base of supporter....
The thing about bachman is she just knows how to get reelected but nothing else....but as far as the whole constitutional law thing pssh she can just forget that I guess....I hate the argument people give that she can't remember anything...
as my dad says "Even a General is Still a soldier" so if he forgot the fundamentals of marksmanship all of a sudden that would be a problem...
Also when did going to a public school and paying attention make you an elitist
Towelly said:
Well, she does have a law degree, so in theory she had to have taken at least one constitutional law course.
She eventually went to a well respected school (William & Mary Law School) for her Master of Laws (LL.M.) degree, but she got her Juris Doctor from Oral Roberts 'University' if that tells you anything.
To be fair, Oral Roberts University is a fully accredited university by an organization recognized by the Department of Education. So in theory, if you recognize Nortre Dame as a competent higher learning institution, you should also recognize Oral Roberts.
Towelly said:
Well, she does have a law degree, so in theory she had to have taken at least one constitutional law course.
She eventually went to a well respected school (William & Mary Law School) for her Master of Laws (LL.M.) degree, but she got her Juris Doctor from Oral Roberts 'University' if that tells you anything.
To be fair, Oral Roberts University is a fully accredited university by an organization recognized by the Department of Education. So in theory, if you recognize Nortre Dame as a competent higher learning institution, you should also recognize Oral Roberts.
To be really fair, though, it must also be noted that due to some kind of financial difficulty, Oral Roberts no longer has a law school. It's library was eventually converted into Regent University school of law. Which is hella weird because law schools are cash cows for universities.
mydogfarted
Oakland, NJ
June 2003
MAY 13, 2011 08:47 AM