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Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

MAY 03, 2006 08:17 PM

Swiftsure said:

St_Expedite said:

Subrosa said:

Swiftsure said:
I should also add that for a bunch of baristas and Community College Communications Majors, you have a remarkably over-inflated sense of your own intellectual prowess and abilities.[Edited on May 03, 2006 by Swiftsure]


Oh so rich. So, so rich.



Yeah, you'd think a "18th Century Hell-Rake and Gentelman [sic] of Leasure" [sic, yet again] would have the sense not to throw stones.

Oh no, wait. No, you wouldn't think that at all.



You obviously have not met many 18th Century hell-rakes have you? We tend to be known for, whoring, dueling, drinking and marrying heiresses.

here, for you eluciditon, obviously you did'nt cover this at that fancy Community College of yours:




A rake is a stock character, a man who wastes his (usually inherited) fortune on "wine, women, and song," incurring lavish debts in the process. The rake is also frequently a cad: a man who seduces a young woman and impregnates her before leaving, often to her social or financial ruin. To call the character a rake calls attention to his promiscuity and wild spending of money; to call the character a cad implies a callous seducer who coldly breaks his victim's heart.

During the Restoration period 1660-1688, the word was used in a glamorous sense: the Restoration rake is a carefree, witty, sexually irresistible aristocrat typified by Charles II's courtiers, the Earl of Rochester and the Earl of Dorset, who combined riotous living with intellectual pursuits and patronage of the arts. The Restoration rake is celebrated in the Restoration comedy of the 1660s and 1670s.



Do you know what [sic] means?

Swiftsure

Swiftsure

Netherlands Antilles
April 2006

MAY 03, 2006 08:25 PM

St_Expedite said:

Swiftsure said:

St_Expedite said:

Subrosa said:

Swiftsure said:
I should also add that for a bunch of baristas and Community College Communications Majors, you have a remarkably over-inflated sense of your own intellectual prowess and abilities.[Edited on May 03, 2006 by Swiftsure]


Oh so rich. So, so rich.



Yeah, you'd think a "18th Century Hell-Rake and Gentelman [sic] of Leasure" [sic, yet again] would have the sense not to throw stones.

Oh no, wait. No, you wouldn't think that at all.



You obviously have not met many 18th Century hell-rakes have you? We tend to be known for, whoring, dueling, drinking and marrying heiresses.

here, for you eluciditon, obviously you did'nt cover this at that fancy Community College of yours:

A rake is a stock character, a man who wastes his (usually inherited) fortune on "wine, women, and song," incurring lavish debts in the process. The rake is also frequently a cad: a man who seduces a young woman and impregnates her before leaving, often to her social or financial ruin. To call the character a rake calls attention to his promiscuity and wild spending of money; to call the character a cad implies a callous seducer who coldly breaks his victim's heart.

During the Restoration period 1660-1688, the word was used in a glamorous sense: the Restoration rake is a carefree, witty, sexually irresistible aristocrat typified by Charles II's courtiers, the Earl of Rochester and the Earl of Dorset, who combined riotous living with intellectual pursuits and patronage of the arts. The Restoration rake is celebrated in the Restoration comedy of the 1660s and 1670s.



The awesome thing about this guy is, I don't have to lift a finger to make him look like a half-retarded jackass. He does it all himself.



....and you were going to say you knew what a rake was all along, right? You just wanted to see if I knew it, right? Right??

Here's another new word and concept for you too...


Psychological projection (or projection bias) can be defined as unconsciously assuming that others have the same or similar thoughts, beliefs, values, or positions on any given subject as oneself. According to the theories of Sigmund Freud, it is a psychological defense mechanism whereby one "projects" one's own undesirable thoughts, motivations, desires, feelings—basically parts of oneself—onto someone else (usually another person, but psychological projection onto animals and inanimate objects also occurs). The principle of projection is well-established in psychology.

To understand the process, imagine an individual (Alice, for example) who feels dislike for another person (let's say Bob), but whose unconscious mind will not allow her to become aware of this negative emotion. Instead of admitting to herself that she feels dislike for Bob, she projects her dislike onto Bob, so that her conscious thought is not "I don't like Bob," but "Bob doesn't like me." In this way one can see that projection is related to denial, the only defense mechanism that some argue is more primitive than projection. Alice has denied a part of herself that is desperate to come to the surface. She can't flatly deny that she doesn't like Bob, so instead she will project the dislike, thinking Bob doesn't like her. Another, and an ironic, example is if Alice were to say, "Bob seems to project his feelings onto me."

Peter Gay describes it as "the operation of expelling feelings or wishes the individual finds wholly unacceptable—too shameful, too obscene, too dangerous—by attributing them to another." (Freud: A Life for Our Time, page 281)




Any more questions? I don't want to keep seeing the same hands now, People....

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

MAY 03, 2006 08:29 PM

She never implied she didn't know what a rake was, dude. She was making fun of the fact that you can't spell and you're getting on us for being "baristas".

Got anything else to cut-and-paste for us to read? Perhaps something newsworthy? Or you could perhaps address the ORIGINAL POST and the points we brought up about it, namely that it's irrelevant and THREE YEARS OLD.

Care to address that? No? Didn't think so.

reprobate

reprobate

New Orleans, LA
December 2002

MAY 03, 2006 08:31 PM

Subrosa said:

Swiftsure said:

St_Expedite said:

Subrosa said:

Swiftsure said:
I should also add that for a bunch of baristas and Community College Communications Majors, you have a remarkably over-inflated sense of your own intellectual prowess and abilities.[Edited on May 03, 2006 by Swiftsure]


Oh so rich. So, so rich.



Yeah, you'd think a "18th Century Hell-Rake and Gentelman [sic] of Leasure" [sic, yet again] would have the sense not to throw stones.

Oh no, wait. No, you wouldn't think that at all.



You obviously have not met many 18th Century hell-rakes have you? We tend to be known for, whoring, dueling, drinking and marrying heiresses.

here, for you eluciditon, obviously you did'nt cover this at that fancy Community College of yours:




A rake is a stock character, a man who wastes his (usually inherited) fortune on "wine, women, and song," incurring lavish debts in the process. The rake is also frequently a cad: a man who seduces a young woman and impregnates her before leaving, often to her social or financial ruin. To call the character a rake calls attention to his promiscuity and wild spending of money; to call the character a cad implies a callous seducer who coldly breaks his victim's heart.

During the Restoration period 1660-1688, the word was used in a glamorous sense: the Restoration rake is a carefree, witty, sexually irresistible aristocrat typified by Charles II's courtiers, the Earl of Rochester and the Earl of Dorset, who combined riotous living with intellectual pursuits and patronage of the arts. The Restoration rake is celebrated in the Restoration comedy of the 1660s and 1670s.



Do you know what [sic] means?



Well, he misspelled elucidation, which made me giggle,and he clearly doesn't know that Hell-rake is a malaprop.

Granted, if his profile is to be believed, and the mustache certainly has me convinced, English is not his native tongue, but I should think that knowing that, the laughable pedantry might be something to avoid if one were wise.

Westley

Westley

Vatican City
April 2004

MAY 03, 2006 08:40 PM

Swiftsure said:

St_Expedite said:

Swiftsure said:

St_Expedite said:

Subrosa said:

Swiftsure said:
I should also add that for a bunch of baristas and Community College Communications Majors, you have a remarkably over-inflated sense of your own intellectual prowess and abilities.[Edited on May 03, 2006 by Swiftsure]


Oh so rich. So, so rich.



Yeah, you'd think a "18th Century Hell-Rake and Gentelman [sic] of Leasure" [sic, yet again] would have the sense not to throw stones.

Oh no, wait. No, you wouldn't think that at all.



You obviously have not met many 18th Century hell-rakes have you? We tend to be known for, whoring, dueling, drinking and marrying heiresses.

here, for you eluciditon, obviously you did'nt cover this at that fancy Community College of yours:

A rake is a stock character, a man who wastes his (usually inherited) fortune on "wine, women, and song," incurring lavish debts in the process. The rake is also frequently a cad: a man who seduces a young woman and impregnates her before leaving, often to her social or financial ruin. To call the character a rake calls attention to his promiscuity and wild spending of money; to call the character a cad implies a callous seducer who coldly breaks his victim's heart.

During the Restoration period 1660-1688, the word was used in a glamorous sense: the Restoration rake is a carefree, witty, sexually irresistible aristocrat typified by Charles II's courtiers, the Earl of Rochester and the Earl of Dorset, who combined riotous living with intellectual pursuits and patronage of the arts. The Restoration rake is celebrated in the Restoration comedy of the 1660s and 1670s.



The awesome thing about this guy is, I don't have to lift a finger to make him look like a half-retarded jackass. He does it all himself.



....and you were going to say you knew what a rake was all along, right? You just wanted to see if I knew it, right? Right??

Here's another new word and concept for you too...


Psychological projection (or projection bias) can be defined as unconsciously assuming that others have the same or similar thoughts, beliefs, values, or positions on any given subject as oneself. According to the theories of Sigmund Freud, it is a psychological defense mechanism whereby one "projects" one's own undesirable thoughts, motivations, desires, feelings—basically parts of oneself—onto someone else (usually another person, but psychological projection onto animals and inanimate objects also occurs). The principle of projection is well-established in psychology.

To understand the process, imagine an individual (Alice, for example) who feels dislike for another person (let's say Bob), but whose unconscious mind will not allow her to become aware of this negative emotion. Instead of admitting to herself that she feels dislike for Bob, she projects her dislike onto Bob, so that her conscious thought is not "I don't like Bob," but "Bob doesn't like me." In this way one can see that projection is related to denial, the only defense mechanism that some argue is more primitive than projection. Alice has denied a part of herself that is desperate to come to the surface. She can't flatly deny that she doesn't like Bob, so instead she will project the dislike, thinking Bob doesn't like her. Another, and an ironic, example is if Alice were to say, "Bob seems to project his feelings onto me."

Peter Gay describes it as "the operation of expelling feelings or wishes the individual finds wholly unacceptable—too shameful, too obscene, too dangerous—by attributing them to another." (Freud: A Life for Our Time, page 281)




Any more questions? I don't want to keep seeing the same hands now, People....




The Chewbacca defense.

FireBomber

FireBomber

Leesburg, FL
March 2005

MAY 03, 2006 08:42 PM

adjunct

adjunct

Philadelphia, PA
July 2002

MAY 03, 2006 08:46 PM

Swiftsure said:
Any more questions? I don't want to keep seeing the same hands now, People....


Oh, for fuck's sake, I had a salient point back on page one that you've ducked in favor of this bullshit. I'll spell it out again: Donahue was cut because the NBC brass decided they wanted to put a pro-war spin on their coverage and couldn't succeed in doing that while holding onto serious anti-war commentators on the air. I don't think their decision was reflective of his ratings so much as their desperate attempt to help sell the war. Since then, NBC's enthusiasm for the war has cooled considerably, to the point that the current person in Donahue's spot is Keith Olbermann, the guy having a very public feud with Fox's Bill O'Reilly. You know, the pro-war conservative everyman.

Keith

Keith

Oklahoma City, OK
August 2002

MAY 03, 2006 08:49 PM

Subrosa said:
She never implied she didn't know what a rake was, dude. She was making fun of the fact that you can't spell and you're getting on us for being "baristas".

Got anything else to cut-and-paste for us to read? Perhaps something newsworthy? Or you could perhaps address the ORIGINAL POST and the points we brought up about it, namely that it's irrelevant and THREE YEARS OLD.

Care to address that? No? Didn't think so.


dholokov

dholokov

Toronto, ON
April 2003

MAY 03, 2006 09:07 PM

St_Expedite said:

Swiftsure said:

St_Expedite said:

Subrosa said:

Swiftsure said:
I should also add that for a bunch of baristas and Community College Communications Majors, you have a remarkably over-inflated sense of your own intellectual prowess and abilities.[Edited on May 03, 2006 by Swiftsure]


Oh so rich. So, so rich.



Yeah, you'd think a "18th Century Hell-Rake and Gentelman [sic] of Leasure" [sic, yet again] would have the sense not to throw stones.

Oh no, wait. No, you wouldn't think that at all.



You obviously have not met many 18th Century hell-rakes have you? We tend to be known for, whoring, dueling, drinking and marrying heiresses.

here, for you eluciditon, obviously you did'nt cover this at that fancy Community College of yours:

A rake is a stock character, a man who wastes his (usually inherited) fortune on "wine, women, and song," incurring lavish debts in the process. The rake is also frequently a cad: a man who seduces a young woman and impregnates her before leaving, often to her social or financial ruin. To call the character a rake calls attention to his promiscuity and wild spending of money; to call the character a cad implies a callous seducer who coldly breaks his victim's heart.

During the Restoration period 1660-1688, the word was used in a glamorous sense: the Restoration rake is a carefree, witty, sexually irresistible aristocrat typified by Charles II's courtiers, the Earl of Rochester and the Earl of Dorset, who combined riotous living with intellectual pursuits and patronage of the arts. The Restoration rake is celebrated in the Restoration comedy of the 1660s and 1670s.



The awesome thing about this guy is, I don't have to lift a finger to make him look like a half-retarded jackass. He does it all himself.




This is one of the best exchanges on SG EVAR!

BellJar

BellJar

I'm lost
February 2005

MAY 03, 2006 10:20 PM

oyaji said:

UpTight said:

St_Expedite said:

UpTight said:
Well at least this programme was axed - sorry shelved.



Good lord. What'll they think of next, women motorists?!?!?



So I take it Condi will have your vote in 2008?



Because all women should vote for a woman who has never shown the slightest glimmer of interest in doing anything for women's issues specifically.

whatever



duh!
whatever

eightzeroone

eightzeroone

I'm lost
OLD SKOOL

MAY 03, 2006 10:35 PM

bean said:

Subrosa said:
I really wish we had one conservative member who would regularly post on the CE board who wasn't completely inept at making logical arguments or salient points. It would make me very happy. Whatever happened to Michael_DeSade? Hell, I'm pining for Helter, even.



Seriously. *sigh* Or dkmfc, for that matter.



dkmfc would be a blessing. Believe it or not, this new round of morons has me pining for one whose name I dare not speak.

UpTight

UpTight

I'm lost
December 2003

MAY 03, 2006 10:46 PM

St_Expedite said:

UpTight said:

St_Expedite said:

UpTight said:
Well at least this programme was axed - sorry shelved.



Good lord. What'll they think of next, women motorists?!?!?



So I take it Condi will have your vote in 2008?



I'm sorry, I don't speak troll.



"Good lord. What'll they think of next, women motorists?!?!?"

UpTight

UpTight

I'm lost
December 2003

MAY 03, 2006 10:50 PM

St_Expedite said:


Uptight, on the other hand, is one of the most miserable and disturbed personalities I've ever run across on the internet. Just let that sink in-- I said "on the internet." I fully expect the coroner's report on UpTight to one day read, "Cause of death: Self-inflicted bullet wound to the temple."



fucking hell - that's EXCELLENT

I'm using it

MessyJessy

MessyJessy

Fort Myers, FL
August 2005

MAY 03, 2006 10:54 PM

St_Expedite said:

UpTight said:

St_Expedite said:

UpTight said:
Well at least this programme was axed - sorry shelved.



Good lord. What'll they think of next, women motorists?!?!?



So I take it Condi will have your vote in 2008?



I'm sorry, I don't speak troll.



bahahahahahaha...bahahahahahahha...
love

MessyJessy

MessyJessy

Fort Myers, FL
August 2005

MAY 03, 2006 10:57 PM

Swiftsure said:

I should also add that for a bunch of baristas and Community College Communications Majors, you have a remarkably over-inflated sense of your own intellectual prowess and abilities.

[Edited on May 03, 2006 by Swiftsure]



Says the guy making the ad-hominem argument... whatever

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

MAY 03, 2006 11:33 PM

I think we've had enough pointless bickering, name-calling, and pedantic bullshit for one thread, and I think the odds of this thread ever getting back on track and prompting any sort of intelligent discussion are nil, if they were ever better than that to begin with.

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