His timing was immaculate, his lines were sharper, funnier and more imaginative.
Good description of Colbert's performance
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the "I know you are, but what am I?" strategy...
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acetracer
Hollywood, FL
January 2004
MAY 01, 2006 06:42 PM
Clov said:
Courage? What could've happened to him? He'd be disappeared? The Whtie House would make Comedy Central yank his show?
Sorry, but if I stood in front of a sitting president and was told to make fun of him, I'd shit my pants regardless of the consequences or lack thereof. It's hard to do that with anybody, if you bomb at best you end up looking like a loser and at worst you say something that gets blown out of proportion and ends up costing you your job.
Clov said:
Courage? What could've happened to him? He'd be disappeared? The Whtie House would make Comedy Central yank his show?
Sorry, but if I stood in front of a sitting president and was told to make fun of him, I'd shit my pants regardless of the consequences or lack thereof. It's hard to do that with anybody, if you bomb at best you end up looking like a loser and at worst you say something that gets blown out of proportion and ends up costing you your job.
For those of us in the smart political set who are right about Bush being wrong in Iraq and elsewhere, it was hard to swallow. At the White House Correspondent's Association dinner Saturday night in Washington the President embarrassingly outironicized Steven Colbert. If, as Kierkegard long ago understood, the capacity for ironic self-reflection is a sign of deep intelligence, what did it mean?
... and other assorted evidence of completely missing the point ...
Did you even read past the first paragraph? You know, like down where not one fucking respondent agreed with him? Or with you, for that matter.
What did you do? Google "Bush funnier than Colbert" and post the first thing you found from a "liberal" source?
What did you do? Google "Bush funnier than Colbert" and post the first thing you found from a "liberal" source?
I think I googled "colbert bombed" - because that was the impression I got watching him.
Colbert started badly, finished abismally and only got polite laughter for his jokes inbetween.
The jokes themselves were fairly obvious jibes - the kind of things comedians do every day. It was unchallenging, but Liberal tunnel vision builds it up as a triumph of comedic genius.
Some dork has even started a "thank you colbert" website!!!
Partisan loyalty and political emotion is clouding your collective judgement.
Talk about the emporer's new clothes.
Of course you could fire back the same accusation at me, except Bush was HARDER on himself than Colbert was and Bush got more laughs with the audience (many of whom were downright hostile towards him, politically).
You say "bombed" I say mixtures of "confused", "uncomfortable", "hostile", and "laughing their ass off". Oddly enough, I'd give good money that Scalia was rolling the whole time, not just during the part directed at him. He apparently has a good sense of humor.
Keith said:
You say "bombed" I say mixtures of "confused", "uncomfortable", "hostile", and "laughing their ass off". Oddly enough, I'd give good money that Scalia was rolling the whole time, not just during the part directed at him. He apparently has a good sense of humor.
Alright he didn't TOTALLY Bomb, but there were embarrassed silences at times. This was due to lack of humour rather than lack of tact.
I'll be generous and say Colbert's speech had its funny moments, but it was, at best, average.
Liberal perspectives on its relative merits are totally skewed on this because of their abject hatred of Bush and their admiration for Colbert's "bravery" (although not too many people are commenting on the bravery of Bush to invite a critic).
UpTight said:
Alright he didn't TOTALLY Bomb, but there were embarrassed silences at times. This was due to lack of humour rather than lack of tact.
Says you. Even if the people at the dinner really didn't find it funny though, his performance still can't be called a failure unless you're operating on the assumption that they were his entire intended audience, and I highly doubt that.
Are you all arguing over whether something was funny or not? Because that's about the lowest bulletin board argument possible. Why don't you just discuss whether Colbert or Bush is more Hitler-like? For fuck's sake...
Clov said:
Are you all arguing over whether something was funny or not? Because that's about the lowest bulletin board argument possible. Why don't you just discuss whether Colbert or Bush is more Hitler-like? For fuck's sake...
Honestly I don't think that's what's behind the arguement at all. Those are just the words.
Personally, it's just nice to notice when you're recognising cognitive dissonance on such an obvious subject. Example being that you could feel the audience cringing at most of Colbert's jabs because of how many issues he was able to cover in single lines, such as (my personal favorite):
"The president believes Wednesday, what he believed on Monday... regardless of what happened Tuesday."
...or the bit about "powerfully staged photo-ops."
Doesn't particularly matter whether or not you find those lines funny, or unfunny, or what. What matters is that every Bush supporter out there seems to be relentlessly avoiding any commentary on the underlying truth in the remarks by dismissing it as base, or cutting it from re-broadcast.
Cigarette
Cleveland, OH
April 2004
MAY 01, 2006 05:19 PM