NEWS: Ending "No Child Left Unharassed By Recruiters"

you tell those bastards!

Finally a good reason to be 35 ! I know you all are jealous now. I can't remember when the last time I heard from a recruiter was.

It is pretty sick that they are getting info on underage students. No child left behind was supposed to be about education right ? Will they stop at nothing !? This administration is SooOO transparently bad it is really hard to believe people let em do it.
It's like Orwell and McCarthy all rolled up into one.

I was thinking the same thing. I can't believe they're allowed to harass you guys like that!

We had them at my school as well. I was sat down with an army navy and airforce recruiter during exam week in 10th grade. Each trying to recruit me.
I missed an exam because of it and wasnt allowed to re-sit any exam for that subject. Because I should have been in class

My parents called the school demanded that I be allowed to sit the same exam other students sat. And threatened to put me in another school and tell the media why they removed me.

I never had to deal with recruiters again.

Those opt-out forms are a great idea. I should have always been optional

Navy recruiters practically stalked me after I scored high on my ASVAB. I went to go see a friend at work when I was on my lunch break one day, and they were in his store and jumped right on me, it was creepy.

They get assigned places. They don't get to pick. Interestingly, recruiting duty is one of the worst assignments in the Marine Corps. In fact, since no one wants to do it, they "volunteer" you if you haven't done other things by a certain point in your career (ie. Drill Instructor duty or Embassy Security duty).

I'm not envious of those guys at all; their careers hang on recruiting a couple of kids a month. If they don't make quota, they are often considered "bad Marines" and never promoted again. It's a shitty situation from their end, I assure you.

As for access to schools, what's the problem? Nobody is forcing anyone to join the military. Certainly repeated harassment is wrong, but is one call or approach asking if you're interested harassment? While I understand that many on SG have much higher education levels than average, many people don't do anything beyond high school. The military can, for the right individual, provide exceptional opportunities and benefits.

Umm... you do realize that the ASVAB is the Armed Forces entry exam, right? So... when you take that, you express an interest in joining the military... and... shockingly... recruiters are interested in having you join "their" branch of service...

This is like taking the SATs and then being suprised when random colleges send you stuff.

The recruiter called me up in high school and the conversation went something like this.

"Hey man, you ever thought of joining the military man?"
"Not really because I have asthma and allergies"
"So you mean you gotta carry around an epi-pen and an inhailer on you? Man?"
"Yea"
"Dang, it looks like you'll never be able to persue a career in the military. Man. I'm like, really, really sad to hear that Man."
"Shucks."


No more calls

The states amazes me over and over.. the land of the free... unless you count the movements of your CIA, FBI, Military, Governments impingment on your privacy! I would certainly be "opting out",
I think its a real shame that your military is trying to recruit so many young (impressionable) talented people that havn't even had a chance to see the world and have a life before being regimented and shot at for a cause most of the world doesn't believe in

so do you have anything intelligent to say?

hhahahahaha... that is so funny - americans...

HAHAHA! That worked exactly the same way for me! This would be a great response so get out to college students...maybe eventually the recruiters would just go the fuck away!

I despise "No Child Left Behind" (I want to be a teacher, and I think this hurts our poor, especially young blacks and Hispanics. The face that they are allowing such hard-core recruitment tactics means that this administration is gunning for our lower-income citizens even more than I suspected. I almost went to West Point (had the Congressional letters of reccommendation, near-perfect SATs, and everything), but wound up getting mono, which affected my immune system for the long term. I was no longer physically able to enlist. I agree with recruitment, and I understand that the armed forces, while not in charge of whether we're at war or not, still need to provide the troops for the operations they're ordered to, but I strongly disagree with the hard-core recruitment at high schools. My little brother is in my care for this school year, and I signed the option forbidding the school from sharing his info. The armed forces are stuck between a rock and a hard place, but that doesn't mean they get to take it out on our kids.

[Edited on Sep 05, 2005 by datsun]

Personally when I was a seinor in high school I started having the Army and Navy recruites call me and start trying to get me to join up. After I burried my best friend the day before I turned 18 I dropped out of high school. 4 days later when the Navy recruiter called me, I drove over and sat down and talked to him. 2 weeks later I joined the Navy.

At the time, I was out, getting into trouble alot, was on a first name basis with most of the local law enforcement, and just wasnt headed anywhere good. The Navy Caused me to do a complete 180. Things like moral values and honor really started to mean somthing to me.

I was injured on active duty, and was medically retired. With the values and personal pride and professionalism that I learned in the Navy I turned around after getting out and worked hard, and have done very well for myself, I made 142,000.00 last year, and I know that there is no way that I could have done it with out having picked up what I had in the Navy.

I actually sorrowly miss being on active duty, I had a ton of fun in the military. It was allot of work, but it was rewarding work, knowing that I was protecting my country and our way of life and the freedoms that we do enjoy.

Personally the way that I feel about it, is that the military is not for everyone. It should be just what it is, an all VOLUNTEER force! The thing is, if recruiters cannot recruit anyone, we will no longer have that all volunteer force, and they will start drafting people right out of school.

I would have to say I am all for schools having to hand over that information to the recruiters. Here is why, what if you get some one as a career counselor at a school whom happens to not like the military. What if that person just ups and decides that they are not going to give the recruiter any information period, reguardless of weather or not the students would join or not.

I think the current situation is as it needs to be, those who would want to join are contacted, and thosw who do not want to have the opt out.

I think the situation would be helped allot too, and the recruiters would not be so pushy and persistant if a rather large group of people in this country would stop looking down upon, brating and trying to make miltary service a bad thing. I think it intimidates many who would join and they wind up not doing so, and then you get recruiters chasing hard every lead that they can find.

This worries me. I am going to school to become a teacher and to think that all personal information is just handed over like that is crazy. It also worries me that kids that are easily influnced or have problems saying no to things etc.. are having their info turned over to the armed forces eqivalent to car salesmen. Mckinley(my twin) used to get calls from, I think the army all the time. They would not leave her alone (I, on the other hand, never got a call). Finally she set went into the recruitment office and was like "I have asthma (which she does), leave me the fuck alone"
I had a friend, who's father was drafted way back when. Before his appointment to go into the recruitment office he stopped at McDonald's and ate a filet 'o fish (he was allergic to fish), and ran around the recruitment office a few times (he also had asthma) before he went in. Needless to say they found him unfit and sent him on his marry way .

and in some schools, it is required to be taken or they never inform the students that it's optional. -in mine, anyone who was not in the vocational program (in other words, took full-day courses) was placed in the ASVAB exam.

Same here. I had no choice but to take it, as did everyone else I knew. And out of everyone I graduated with, only 2 joined the military right out of high school. One joined the Air Force, and the other went to the Naval Acadamy. I guess 2 out of 300 is good odds?

My brother went to the Naval Academy and during his 4 years there, we would get mail for him from the Marines trying to recruit him. Can anyone say lack of communication?