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The hurricane had nothing to do with global warming. I am an amateur metereologist. Warmer ocean temperatures don't help hurricanes if there are also warm air temperatures. A temperature differential is needed.
Global warming also causes higher shear wind speeds which tend to disrupt hurricanes from forming.

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i got the impression it was more due to the gays than global warming.

You're right W didn't cause global warming It was the George and Reagon Years who wouldn't shit about it

most people car more about funny and smart than the ecological crsis and the corperate powers using W to cover up anything that would make us think about the enviroment or push for humanity to clean up after i's freakin self

I hope you won't be "Oh that's old news" when someone raises this in a month's time. I suspect I'll be disappointed.

Actually, it's only people who don't know anything about science or don't care to do the research who have been making the asinine claim that global warming can have any effect on hurricanes.





Read about for yourself at the National Weather Service. NOAA

Anything on hurricane strengths in general? There were several other nations in the Caribbean, last time I checked.

Since hurricanes are triggered by sea temperature, global warming is an obvious question to raise.

You know, all this shit about it not being Bush's fault. Fine. He didn't cause the hurricane. Duh. We all know that. But the hurricane did first rip through Miami, and then stall and slowly build up tremendous energy in the Gulf of Mexico. It wasn't like it just up and Surprise! Hurricane. There was plenty of time for Bush, the Commander in Chief, to start mobilizing troops & guardsmen BEFORE the disaster and preparing the area for the inevitable disaster that was going to follow. No matter where Katrina landed would have been devestated. Did hurricane Andrew teach us nothing?

The destruction by the hurricane was nobody's fault (Except for the fact that Congress had granted New Orleans money to have the army corp of engineers renovate and upgrade the levee and storm wall system after major flooding 7 years ago. But Bush decided to cut that funding therby halting the levee upgrades). But the lack of preparedness for the aftermath is somebody's fault, and that goes right up to the top of the chain of command.

Actually, that only accounts for hurricanes that Make landfall. And less than that, hurricanse that make landfall onto US soil. There are also hurricanes in the pacific, and hurricanes that dont make landfall, and hurricanes that go to mexico or hurricanes that hit the carribean and fizzle out before they hit the US.

Pay more attention to what the Data actually says than what the person showing you the data is trying to say. Statistics can be molded to mean anything

Actually, many people seem to forget that George W. Bush owned the Texas Rangers, and never made a stand against use of steroids as the owner of said Major League Baseball team

Seriously, we didn't miss your point. We were all just ignoring you.

Nice graphs. It good to see someone who actually bases their opinions on facts instead of preconceived notions around here.

And to see if I understand the counter argument, is it that global warming actually creates more hurricanes, but somehow made them avoid striking the US over the last 30 years? In that case, it seems a good thing.

Here’s a nice article about Hurricanes from a few weeks ago.

http://www.discover.com/issues/sep-05/departments/discover-dialogue/

And by the way, the federal government cannot just unilaterally send in the military (perhaps unlike to foreign countries) to states. It is the governor who needs to activate the national guard and in extreme situations request active duty military, all of which were already available BEFORE the hurricane because Bush had declared a state of emergency PRIOR to its landfall. In this case, much of the fault entirely rests with Governor Kathleen Blanco (Democrat) to utilize the resources immediately available.

Check the study:

1997 “Tropical Cyclones and Global Climate Change: a post-IPCC assessment,” Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society 79:9-38

The key point is that it shows a downward trend in the Frequency of Intense Atlantic Hurricanes during the past five decades.

Actualy it's the difference in temp between air and water makes hurricanes worse. As in cold water warm air not, warm water warm air.

In a 1990 study, Drs. Robert Balling, Sherwood Idso and Randall Cerveny found that warmer global temperatures actually lead to fewer hurricanes, not more. Their analysis - which assessed data for 1947 through 1987 - found that the warmest years over the 41-year period produced the fewest number of hurricane days, on average. Conversely, the coldest years, on average, produced a greater number of hurricane days.

I'm with you on that one. . .she's a mess. She didn't know what she was doing in office before the hurricane came. Then once it hit, she was an emotional wreck and couldn't even formulate a sentence until yesterday. I could go on and on about how she is an inept moron, but that would just be beating a dead horse.

Actually, Noise, I disagree with you on that one. I spent the evacuation with someone who had to do dozens of conference calls with the governor's office, LA congressional delegation and LA National Guard. Blanco's slept perhaps ten hours since Sunday. She's been trying to get the morons at FEMA to get on the ball and get help down here. She has used all the resources at her disposal. She's been doing everything in her power to use those federal resources which were supposed to be available.

I also saw her formulate plenty of sentences in the many interviews and press conferences she's had to do.

And if PixelPimp wants to toss Ds and Rs around, he should note that GOP wonder-boys Vitter and Jindal have done sweet fuck-all since this happened.

It's my cross to bear