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iamblades22

iamblades22

I'm lost
January 2005

FEB 09, 2005 09:15 PM

Stiles said:
From the article:


According to the criminal complaint filed in the case, the five men conspired, without the knowledge of top Democratic Party officials, to plaster Republican Party headquarters on W. Capitol Drive with Democratic signs and stickers, something they dubbed Operation Elephant Takeover.




Seth Boffeli, spokesman for the Wisconsin Democratic Party, denounced the slashings and said the felony charge seemed appropriate.

“This really doesn’t have anything to do with politics,” Boffeli said. “This isn’t anything that we tried to orchestrate. This is something that some young people who used some incredibly bad judgment did on their own.”




Not nearly equivalent, sorry. Those charged weren't high-ranking state Dem officials, they were pranksters who made a criminally bad decision when they went from stickers to vandalism, and they should be punished if found guilty.



Well, no democratic officials were charged with it, but it doesn't really matter in the scheme of which is worse, they are both plenty bad, but the tireslashings probably prevented more people from getting to the polls.

Stiles

Stiles

Oakland, CA
November 2002

FEB 09, 2005 09:19 PM

iamblades22 said:

Well, no democratic officials were charged with it, but it doesn't really matter in the scheme of which is worse, they are both plenty bad, but the tireslashings probably prevented more people from getting to the polls.



You guys amaze me with your ability to ignore critical differences when it suits your purposes. The head of the State GOP(among others) was charged and pled guilty.

That distinction means nothing to you, eh?

Appalling.

s5

s5

STAFF

San Francisco, CA

FEB 10, 2005 12:04 AM

InfernoMDM said:
Id figure it was time someone remined everyone that Democrats have done just as terrible things and NO ONE got even there wrist slapped for that one.



if a high ranking democratic party official even had a fleeting thought about doing anything remotely similar, republican congress leaders would have started a special investigation, and they would be in jail by now.

bones_708

bones_708

Houston, TX
December 2004

FEB 10, 2005 07:02 AM

bean said:

bones_708 said:
I think it's more about who gets caught.
Dem fraud in 2002

more



Reasons why those stories are irrelevant:

1) They are not new. They came out in 2002. So, any updates on the results, or are they still just "allegations?"

2) Fraudulent registrations are BS. Nobody is or can actually vote via a fraudulent registration. The system finds and weeds out such registrations pretty easily, as it did in the cases you mentioned.

3) Those cases do not represent any direct effort by any party to do anything to fuck with actual votes. What you've got there is a bunch of random people pulled off the street and told "we'll give you X amount of money per registration you pick up," and then they went out and got false registrations in order to scam the system. Big fucking deal. They're small time crooks.

4) What we're talking about with this story is the state head of the Republican Party pleading guilty to actively trying to keep people from being able to vote.



Try again. Or, just admit that this is incredibly fucked up and stop getting so defensive.

[Edited on Feb 09, 2005 by bean]



Not defensive, if someone does anything illegal toss them in jail. My point was, to say one party only is involved in these types of things is stupid or willfully ignorant.


I said I think it's more about who gets caught.


That is not a partisan statement.
While I like to play the devils advocate I'm in no way blind to the misdeeds of either side. I put my two cents in because the majority of the Propaganda on this website is anti-conservative and the truth or fairness seems like a distant second (or third). Conservatives are just as bad but they have a lot less voices on this board.

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