GOP jammed voter ride phone lines

I really can't understand what you're trying to say here. Beyond the second sentence it gets pretty inarticulate.

What does that prove other than some republicans have no idea about the weapons production or terrorist affiliation of a foreign land. Was this study done on Democrats or was it just some independant trying to slander a political party because of his negativity?

I'm sorry, that link only quotes part of the original article. The original article is here, and makes it clear that they polled Bush and Kerry supporters, and found Kerry supporters to have a much better command of the facts. That one is here, but requires a subscription, which is why I linked to the other one.

Can someone link me the story about NPR listeners knowing the real story about things 50% more than viewers of Fox News?

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It does. That next-to-last sentence is a nightmare.

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Everybody loves to be told "What you want to hear." That's why political leaders have followers. You like what one guys says, so you decide to vote for him. But it sucks when the person you voted for lies and and changes his views on certain subjects. It doesn't make you misinformed. It just means you were tricked into voting for a jerk.

The thing I see wrong about the study is the time it was conducted. I believe that a lot of Republicans that strongly support President Bush did not want to admit that there are no WMD's in Iraq. Being it was so close to the elections that wanted to ensure that their President would win again and they made no mistakes. Even though it is in the back of everyone's mind.

So, you're saying that many people who voted for Bush were not misinformed, but instead hung onto irrational beliefs because they supported him for… some reason that has not yet been put forward. Can you paint yourself into any tighter a rhetorical corner?

Hey, that quote function only works so far.

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Lemonnier - I joined the US military is 1999. I apoligies I use I loosely for many military personel. That is my mistake. However twice the Democratic party did shut down the Gov. Was a moot point and I shouldnt have gone off in that direction. Also many dont see the switch you are talking about, and I would contest that not supporting in the start is just as wrong as fixing a mistake after its already been fixed.


As for some poll about who had a better handle on the "FACTS." Id love to know what questions were asked, how large the study was etc. I have asked several democrats if Kerry ever supported the war. Many answered NO. Statistics is the whore of agendas. Need I comment on the belief that Bush cut money to soldiers in the field that is "FACT" to many Democrats but not to soldiers who saw no loss in money. I know I was there when it was a issue.

My reply to Kieth was BEFORE he edited it.

The simple fact is the issue YOUR STILL BITCHING, AND THE DEMOCRATS ARE JUST AS EVIL AND JUST AS WRONG AS REPUBLCANS.

Why is it seems that when many republicans is trying to illistrate theys thoughts into words into sentences coherent it becomes so more difficult to understand what that it is they are trying to make your point into saying?

I AM LEFT TO WONDERING.

The simple fact is the issue YOUR STILL BITCHING, AND THE DEMOCRATS ARE JUST AS EVIL AND JUST AS WRONG AS REPUBLCANS.

I will strongly disagree with statement for as long I know that its bullshit. Depression, Watergate, Iraq 1, Iraq 2, Afghanistan, Recession since 2001, Not paying attention to warnings that could have saved thousands, fucked up the election and stole the presidency, the list goes on my friend.

What have the Dems done in the past I don't know 70 years? Finished WWII, Kennedy and anything he did to further Civil Rights, got a BJer in the White House, Got us through the Great Depression, etc.

I'm not seeing evil hear, dude. Nope. So you lost a paycheck or two. I lost a good job because the fucking republicans didn't pay attention to warnings and two planes hit the fucking WTC, fucking up the economy. Yea I don't see how the Dems are responsible for that, when they gave Bush the fucking warnings. But I'm sure you have vaild points somewhere. Where I don't know.

LOL

Has the GOP disowned its erring state head? That's what I'd expect to happen here.

I don't necessarily hate Republicans -- I simply hate soulless fucks and most of them happen to be Republicans.

If I were you, I wouldn't ever, ever do that again. Some military personnel would be highly offended. Also, I assume you're aware that the shutdown didn't affect military paychecks? Because, you know, it didn't.

No, the Republican-controlled Congress shut down the federal government. That is a fact. It is not debatable. The US Constitution gives "the power of the purse" to Congress, not the president. When the Congress cannot pass spending bills before the end of the fiscal year, it is up to them to pass a continuing resolution, usually keeping appropriations at then-current levels, to ensure that people continue to get paychecks and benefit checks. It is not up to the president. It is not even within the powers of the president. Do you understand that what you are alleging is not possible, pursuant to the US constitution? The Republican Congress decided to shut down the government because they refused to pass a CR that didn't substantially overhaul several important federal programs.

You are not "many." The Southern Strategy is, again, a nondebatable, historical fact. The fact that segregationist Democrats became segregationist Republicans is nondebatable. Have you ever, perchance, heard of Strom Thurmond?

Well, of course you would, because that supports your ill-conceived, based-in-fantasy argument. Look, you may not realize it, but you're providing a great example of the misinformed Republican voter. You blame Clinton and the Democratic party for the federal shutdown, even though you don't know anything about the events leading up to it, how it worked, or who was affected. You're just reciting Republican talking points. Same goes for post-CRA political events-- you've apparently never heard of Southern Democrats switching to the Republican party, so you try and claim it didn't happen. You are misinformed, and what's worse, you have no desire to become informed if it means admitting that your previously-held notions were wrong.

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eh the republicans just play hardball. Whatever it takes, up to and including destroying democracy. Thats ok, 6/10 americans prefer theocracy to democracy