US aid for college students slashed

They are nice sunglasses. I used to own a pair. Then I lost them.

I lost the iridium lenses, and I only have the ugly brown ones now, so I don't wear them.
But hey, I'm not talking about student aid either, so I guess I just bow out gracefully.

::trips over doormat on the way out::

Anybody else unsure as to what the relevance of this post was? Or which side of the argumenr joe_n_blow is supporting?

It's called satire.

He was saying that the rate of return of spending more money on primary education at the cost of spending no money on secondary education was, perhaps, miscalculated by Mr. Fox.

It's not that hard to figure out.

foxmarks said:
. Even if you got the masses to support such a notion in the face of other ambitions and threats, the rich who fund most of it would probably just leave. Kind of a national version of "white flight".



Just for shits and giggles, where would these hordes of rich people flee to?

Can you name a serious nation-state (not some puny tax haven like the Cayman Islands) that could offer this nation's rich lower taxes with the same kind of freedoms they enjoy here?

Please flee

I might go to Morocco. "rocc"in' place to have a residence. Just bring money. But note: even Alec Baldwin didn't leave the US despite the realization of his worst nightmares.

(To others) What, do you suppose, is the reason that foreigners flock to the US for education - not just to Stanford and Ivy League schools, but to every type of college and university - and almost always at considerable expense. Maybe they have an appreciation for the value of something that we take for granted, or even disdain, and that consequently we think is not to be offered as ubiquitously as possible - to Americans. I don't care where the money for education comes from, but I don't think Bill and Melinda Gates have enough for everyone.

I essentially worked my way through school, but that is a hard row to hoe now.

Um, no. Historically and philosphically it derives from Liberalism. At least in the sense that libertarianism is used today. It the past libertarianism was used as synonym for socialism, but it has been hijacked. Some anarchists still refer to themselves as libertarian socialists, all of them that I know are in there 60s or 70s.

I'll say.

My mother worked her way through Bryn Mawr back in the day, but it's a safe bet that's not happening much today, what with tuition being $26,200 and room and board another $8,900 additional, with books and incidentals added onto that.

How many 18 year olds make $40K/year after taxes?

[Edited on Nov 30, 2004 by Stiles]

I would be.

Is David Brudnoy a lefty? A commie? I am puzzled. I've always thought he is one of the smartest, most forthright people I have ever heard on radio.

And what is the connection to education?

And if you tried to do it via plain old student loans, you'd be a) in debt a couple hundred grand and b) most likely the possessor of one of the best liberal arts degrees in the country and c) unemployable.

I lived in Wayne PA for some time. Used to love riding the Paoli local through Bryn Mawr. Those Bryn Mawr girls. *sigh* Interviewed at Swarthmore but passed on it. (Idiot.)

At least at Brywn Mawr/Haverford/Swarthmore you'd have a decent chance at financial aid. It's a bummer, though, that state universities have started to become expensive even for in-state students. CA is a sad example - but then, CA is so screwed up that even the Gubernator will have a hard time fixing it.

I would rather the government not piss my money away, but I have no problem when my tax dollars are spent trying to avoid "continental stupiding." (Which I think is a more imminent crisis than global warming.)

Are you Patrck Lasswell's annoying little brother or something?

It's probably irrelevant to remind everyone:

Phase 1: Collect underpants.
Phase 2: ......
Phase 3: Profit.

But maybe not completely irrelevant. This thread has rung down the curtain and joined the choir invisible anyway.