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NOV 13, 2004 02:46 PM
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ferret
I'm lost
OLD SKOOL
NOV 14, 2004 02:51 AM
Sadistic_Bastard said:
BrokenGavelBlues said:
Sadistic_Bastard said:
If 'the people' were so worried about their safety, they had two choices: leave, or turn out the insurgents they were supporting.
If I noticed my neighbors were stockpiling stolen televisions in their garage, I wouldn't go ask them for a flat screen, or offer my garage as another storage spot. I'd call the cops.
These immediately jumped out at me as the kind of impossibly simplistic reasoning that many people no doubt use to actually convince themselves that this war isn't producing any innocent causulties, in order to help them sleep at night.
Because, you know, it's just that easy.
These are the same 'innocents' that dragged the bodies of 4 dead Americans to a bridge, strung them up, and set fire to them. Excuse me for being blunt, but I could care less about casualties. The people of this twon fully supported Saddam, they have provided safe haven for people who want to destabilize Iraq, and they have had ample time to get the fuck out of Dodge.
dude, just because you revel in being a 'sadistic bastard' doesn't mean you get a 'get out of jail free' card for being obnoxiously sadistic and bastardly. think about what you're saying. think about the world view you're spewing forth - is venomous hatred what you really want to add to the world? the sheer irresponsibility of your words disgusts me.
you treat the lives of other humans as if they're shit. you sit behind your little fucking computer and defend the killing of innocents... just because they happen to be -where they live-.
get over yourself.
[Edited on Nov 14, 2004 by ferret]
ferret
I'm lost
OLD SKOOL
NOV 14, 2004 02:53 AM
Sadistic_Bastard said:
According to CNN, 90% of the residents left, Zarqawi escaped, 1000 insurgents died, and we captured 200 more. So, let's do the math...300,000 - 90% = 30,000 - 1200 = ~28,800 'innocent' people who are either homeless victims or freed hostages, depending on your political views.
every adult male kill is counted as an 'insurgent'. and i bet some of the kids and women too.
hell, i bet they use diebold machines to do the insurgent kill count.
Michael_DeSade
Seattle, WA
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NOV 25, 2004 01:35 AM
A huge store of weapons and explosives was discovered at the mosque of Abdullah al-Janabi, a Muslim cleric and insurgent leader, according to a report on The New York Times' Web site. Al-Janabi is thought to have fled the city.
The Times said the mosque compound in a residential area had sheds stacked with TNT, mortar shells, bombs, guns, rocket-propelled grenades and ammunition. A naval mine was in the street outside, it added.
Marines clearing houses in Fallujah have found Kalashnikov rifles, ammunition, rocket-propelled grenades, artillery shells and heavy-caliber cannon with weapons caches often marked by a brick hanging by a string on homes' outside walls.
U.S. and Iraqi forces moving into the city smashed much of the insurgents' weaponry, bending gun barrels to prevent future use. Many large weapons caches were blown up quickly with only a cursory attempt at inventory.
West noted that insurgents stashed arms in mosques. "Even gravesides were used to bury weapons," he said.
West said U.S. forces turned up a "cook book" with instructions on using mercury nitrate and silver nitrate and descriptions of nerve agents. He didn't elaborate.
West said the majority of the weapons caches were in the south, as the insurgents likely expected the attack to be initiated from there.
To re-iterate my point, the 250,000 "innocents" bailed long before this operation started. Those who stayed behind did so for reasons other than protection of their personal property. Insurgents, terrorists, collaborators, or just plain looters; those not interested in dying left before the shooting started.
Doplex
United Kingdom
June 2004
NOV 13, 2004 01:26 PM