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hoisin

hoisin

United Kingdom
April 2004

SEP 07, 2004 11:53 AM

I hate headlines like this "Arabs Horrified..." It's such a generalisation about an entire people.

It's like saying "Fact, British people have bad teeth", though now I think of it that's probably true!

Michael_J_Totten

Michael_J_Totten

Iraq
February 2004

SEP 07, 2004 12:53 PM

hoisin said:
I hate headlines like this "Arabs Horrified..." It's such a generalisation about an entire people.


"Some Arabs Horrified..." may be more accurate, but it's also more awkward. Headlines should use the least number of words possible.

Note that I did not say "All Arabs Horrified..."

UpTight

UpTight

I'm lost
December 2003

SEP 07, 2004 12:53 PM

demetrius_z said:
Are you trying to say that there are no Joooooos who condemn all arabs and all muslims? If you are, well, you should say what you mean so people can refute it.



Why not come back when you find some Jews blaming an indisuptably Jewish action on the Arabs.



[Edited on Sep 07, 2004 by UpTight]

dem_z

dem_z

United Kingdom
June 2004

SEP 07, 2004 01:15 PM

UpTight said:

demetrius_z said:
Are you trying to say that there are no Joooooos who condemn all arabs and all muslims? If you are, well, you should say what you mean so people can refute it.



Why not come back when you find some Jews blaming an indisuptably Jewish action on the Arabs.



Why do you keep snipping comments out of all context?

Is it because you cannot answer the questions asked?

This is pointless; it's like punching jelly.

Spelling edit.

[Edited on Sep 07, 2004 by demetrius_z]

decommissioned

decommissioned

Churchs Ferry, ND
January 2003

SEP 07, 2004 01:20 PM

68stretch said:
Every individual has a tipping point. In the US, support for right-wing militias evaporated when Timothy McVeigh blew up a bunch of children. Perhaps, the sight of Muslim extremists starving and shooting children in the back will be the tipping point for the bulk of the Muslim world. Maybe they'll finally grow up and stop supporting these assholes.

Unfortunately, the death of Matthew Shepperd didn't stop anyone from supporting the right-wing christian assholes.



If I may just point out, Matthew (correct spelling) Shepard was killed by individuals acting on their own. I fail to see how a connection can be drawn between that and organized, funded terrorism. I don't recall the scandalous revelation during the trial of Aaron McKinney that he was illegally funded by supposedly charitable Christian organizations. For that matter, I further don't recall a huge segment of our population wearing shirts that had Aaron McKinney's face emblazoned across it while burning rainbow flags on tv. I don't remember these things because there is very little support among any large scale Christian organization for violent acts, as well as a fundamental respect for human life in our country.

I say this as an atheist, in case you are wondering. It never fails to amaze me how people amongst the liberal population (of which I justifiably make the leap of faith that you are) are quick to defend freedom of religion in all cases except christianity, which makes up the single largest segment of our population.

But, I guess no one is trying to take away your (implied) constitutional right to be ignorant.

UpTight

UpTight

I'm lost
December 2003

SEP 07, 2004 01:26 PM

demetrius_z said:

UpTight said:

demetrius_z said:
Are you trying to say that there are no Joooooos who condemn all arabs and all muslims? If you are, well, you should say what you mean so people can refute it.



Why not come back when you find some Jews blaming an indisuptably Jewish action on the Arabs.



Why do you keep snipping comments out of all context?



people can read back

it saves space


Is it because you cannot answer the questions asked?



An Islamic scholar blamed the Beslan masacre, not on the Muslims who actually took the kids hostage, but on Israel.

You said that some Jews occassionally "blame it all" on Arabs and Muslims.

I asked you for parallel examples.

Instead of giving me any you whinge about snipping and accuse me of dodging.

You are the one who made the allegation - you back it up.

whatever




[Edited on Sep 07, 2004 by UpTight]

UpTight

UpTight

I'm lost
December 2003

SEP 07, 2004 01:31 PM

demetrius_z said:
This is pointless; it's like punching jelly.



What do you want me to say? That at least one Jewish person, has at some point has got angry and moaned at Arabs?

Sure - but that would hardly be the same as some presumably influential Bharaini religious leader publically blaming Israel for an act of terrorism that was perpetuated by Muslims.

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