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FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

OCT 31, 2012 06:41 PM

I just don't even... Again[/utl]? These folks just don't quit.

Reporter Question: Is there any time that you would agree with abortion?

Jon Koster: Incest is so rare, I mean, it's so rare. But the rape thing. You know, I know a woman who was raped and kept her child, and gave it up for adoption. She doesn't regret it, in fact, she's a big pro-life proponent. But on the rape thing, it's like, how does putting more violence onto a woman's body and taking the life of an innocent child that's a consequence of this crime, how does that make it better?



John Koster is a Republican running for Congress in Washington.

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

NOV 01, 2012 05:12 AM

^Whoops, link fail. Try this for the story.

CoyoteMike

CoyoteMike

Iowa City, IA
May 2006

NOV 01, 2012 06:13 AM

FellOnEarth said:
^Whoops, link fail. Try this for the story.



fixed.

Otoki

Otoki

SUICIDEGIRL

Minnesota, USA

NOV 01, 2012 06:48 AM

I hope to live to see the day when everyone looks back on these remarks and says "Wow. I can't believe anyone believed any of that shit, ever." Don't know if I will, though.

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

NOV 01, 2012 11:08 AM

Generally speaking, this issue tends to favor the younger generation. Given enough time, it's likely it will be come less of an issue, that is if "we" don't become less vocal in support of pro-choice. Though it's important to combat political opposition, it's equally important to gain the social higher ground by effectively communicating a message that is identifiable with younger generations.

This is where the pro-life movement tends to excel, by formulating a "high moral ground" argument reinforced through theological indoctrination. However, this obstacle can be overcome by providing young women a balance of historical context whilst remaining relative to contemporary attitudes on sex and sexuality. This, coupled with legal and moral understandings of choice-realated issues (such as safe sex-ed, discussing rape and incest, and describing the dangers of underground abortions, disparity caused by unplanned pregnancy, etc), would help provide holistic approach to combat the abstinence only/pro-life arguments pushed by the religious right.

I read an interesting article, written by a 20-something woman at Advocates For Youth. She focuses on the changing attitudes and understanding of issues like abortion and gay rights, and it's definitely worth checking out.

Cattie

Cattie

Canada
July 2007

NOV 06, 2012 06:42 PM

I just googled Todd Akin cause I forgot the state which he represents to see how his state is doing on election results and found this gem on Wikipedia lol



William Todd Akin (born July 5, 1947) is a pedantic, pontificating, pretentious prick and the U.S. Representative for Missouri's 2nd congressional district, serving since 2001.



I really love Wikipedia sometimes biggrin

Stiles

Stiles

Philadelphia, PA
November 2002

NOV 06, 2012 08:04 PM

For once, there is a cost to being an asshole:


The election has not gone well for the Republican rape gaffe candidates. Votes are still being counted, but so far, they've lost. Mark this down, guys: In 2012, there are severe costs for sounding like you're a little bit of a rape apologist. Here's where we are as of 9:45p.m.:



Mourdock: lost to the Democrat

Akin: lost to the Democrat

Smith: lost to the Demorat

smile

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/11/gops-rape-apologist-caucus-did-not-fare-well-tonight/58770/





Priapos

priapos

San Angelo, TX
October 2005

NOV 06, 2012 08:09 PM

Legitimately defeated. HT: PPAct

BDeyeD

BDeyeD

Toronto, ON
January 2007

NOV 06, 2012 09:03 PM

Stiles said:
For once, there is a cost to being an asshole:


The election has not gone well for the Republican rape gaffe candidates. Votes are still being counted, but so far, they've lost. Mark this down, guys: In 2012, there are severe costs for sounding like you're a little bit of a rape apologist. Here's where we are as of 9:45p.m.:



Mourdock: lost to the Democrat

Akin: lost to the Democrat

Smith: lost to the Demorat

smile

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/11/gops-rape-apologist-caucus-did-not-fare-well-tonight/58770/







YUSSSSSSSSSSS

BDeyeD

BDeyeD

Toronto, ON
January 2007

NOV 06, 2012 09:04 PM

Priapos said:
Legitimately defeated. HT: PPAct



*\@/*

semiretiredpunk

semiretiredpunk

USA
March 2007

NOV 06, 2012 09:23 PM

I was watching the results come in in Indiana, and it seemed Mourdock conceded the race pretty quickly. Those comments really bit him in the ass.


SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Oddly enough, the Indiana elections website shows Mourdock as having ~31,000 more votes than Donnelly. He quit too early, from his supporters' point of view. wink


semiretiredpunk

semiretiredpunk

USA
March 2007

NOV 07, 2012 03:33 PM

semiretiredpunk said:
I was watching the results come in in Indiana, and it seemed Mourdock conceded the race pretty quickly. Those comments really bit him in the ass.


SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Oddly enough, the Indiana elections website shows Mourdock as having ~31,000 more votes than Donnelly. He quit too early, from his supporters' point of view. wink




SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Just an update, once more votes had come in, M. still lost the election by around 11,000 votes anyway.

semiretiredpunk

semiretiredpunk

USA
March 2007

DEC 13, 2012 10:31 PM

A judge in Southern California believes that if a person doesn't want sex, their body won't let it happen.


“I’m not a gynecologist, but I can tell you something,” the judge said, according to documents released Thursday. “If someone doesn’t want to have sexual intercourse, the body shuts down. The body will not permit that to happen unless a lot of damage in inflicted, and we heard nothing about that in this case.

"That tells me that the victim in this case, although she wasn’t necessarily willing, she didn’t put up a fight.”

The judge, who has been on the Orange County Superior Court since 2000, also declared the rape “technical,” and not “a real, live criminal case.”



He says other stupid things as well, as can be seen in the article.

shocked

tnicole29

tnicole29

Binghamton, NY
May 2008

JAN 14, 2013 04:31 AM

How do people like this exist?! mad

Stiles

Stiles

Philadelphia, PA
November 2002

APR 29, 2013 10:13 PM

Another Republican doesn't know when to shut up.


(Celeste) Greig, the head of the largest GOP volunteer organization in California — Ronald Reagan once called the California Republican Assembly “the conscience of the Republican Party — told the Bay Area News group that rape almost never leads to pregnancies because the body is too traumatized.

“Granted, the percentage of pregnancies due to rape is small because it’s an act of violence, because the body is traumatized. I don’t know what percentage of pregnancies are due to the violence of rape. Because of the trauma the body goes through,” she told the newspaper before arriving at the state GOP’s spring convention in Sacramento.



Yes, she really said that. Yes, she is that stupid. But wait, there's more!


Ironically, she got on the subject while criticizing Rep. Todd Akin, the former Missouri Senate candidate who infamously said women’s bodies have a way of shutting down pregnancies in the case of “legitimate rape.” “That was an insensitive remark,” Greig said. “I’m sure he regretted it. He should have come back and apologized.” Greig, however, went on to essentially reaffirm part of Akin’s logic.



Clidna

Clidna

Canada
January 2005

APR 29, 2013 10:40 PM

surreal

Otoki

Otoki

SUICIDEGIRL

Minnesota, USA

APR 30, 2013 12:16 AM

It...it never stops.

J24U

J24U

Danvers, MA
February 2006

APR 30, 2013 04:15 AM

I shudder every times I see this thread bumped.

Waldo_Jeffers

Waldo_Jeffers

United Kingdom
OLD SKOOL

APR 30, 2013 11:48 AM

Stiles said:
Another Republican doesn't know when to shut up.


(Celeste) Greig, the head of the largest GOP volunteer organization in California — Ronald Reagan once called the California Republican Assembly “the conscience of the Republican Party — told the Bay Area News group that rape almost never leads to pregnancies because the body is too traumatized.

“Granted, the percentage of pregnancies due to rape is small because it’s an act of violence, because the body is traumatized. I don’t know what percentage of pregnancies are due to the violence of rape. Because of the trauma the body goes through,” she told the newspaper before arriving at the state GOP’s spring convention in Sacramento.



Yes, she really said that. Yes, she is that stupid. But wait, there's more!


Ironically, she got on the subject while criticizing Rep. Todd Akin, the former Missouri Senate candidate who infamously said women’s bodies have a way of shutting down pregnancies in the case of “legitimate rape.” “That was an insensitive remark,” Greig said. “I’m sure he regretted it. He should have come back and apologized.” Greig, however, went on to essentially reaffirm part of Akin’s logic.





Of course, even if she were correct in her statement that "rape almost never leads to pregnancies" it would have no bearing whatsoever on the question of whether the law should permit abortion to be performed in cases of rape.

Waldo_Jeffers

Waldo_Jeffers

United Kingdom
OLD SKOOL

APR 30, 2013 11:49 AM

On another note, I find her remark "I don’t know what percentage of pregnancies are due to the violence of rape" to be most illuminating.

This single remark calls into question the rest of her argument.

If she doesn't know this one thing, she is not in a position to state that "rape almost never leads to pregnancies".

Hence, she has already shot her own argument down in flames without the need for anyone to even debate the matter with her!!!

Doh!

Waldo_Jeffers

Waldo_Jeffers

United Kingdom
OLD SKOOL

APR 30, 2013 11:53 AM

Stiles said:

...Ronald Reagan once called the California Republican Assembly “the conscience of the Republican Party




They may be the conscience of the Republican Party, but judging by Celeste Greig's remarks, they certainly aren't the brain of the Republican Party.

LEtranger

Letranger

Brooklyn, NY
September 2005

MAY 06, 2013 02:55 PM

This might not be the right thread but I found this to be pretty shocking.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/05/air-force-sexual-assault/

The guy who's supposed to be policing rape in the Air Force commits, you guessed it, rape.

I guess it would be too much to suggest that the put a woman in charge of this next time.

Canadian_Coat

Canadian_Coat

Brockville, ON
September 2008

MAY 06, 2013 03:12 PM

A woman policing rape in the air force, are ya nuts? what's next, a woman helping to make decisions for woman's reproductive health?
wink

LEtranger

Letranger

Brooklyn, NY
September 2005

MAY 06, 2013 04:00 PM

his mug shot is just...wow.




it says "i've been exposed to the world as the biggest dickhead ever"

JorgeCartman

JorgeCartman

USA
February 2008

MAY 07, 2013 07:34 AM

LEtranger said:
his mug shot is just...wow.




it says "i've been exposed to the world as the biggest dickhead ever"



Or "Irony is a bitch..."

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