I just don't even... Again[/utl]? These folks just don't quit.
Reporter Question: Is there any time that you would agree with abortion?
Jon Koster: Incest is so rare, I mean, it's so rare. But the rape thing. You know, I know a woman who was raped and kept her child, and gave it up for adoption. She doesn't regret it, in fact, she's a big pro-life proponent. But on the rape thing, it's like, how does putting more violence onto a woman's body and taking the life of an innocent child that's a consequence of this crime, how does that make it better?
John Koster is a Republican running for Congress in Washington.
I hope to live to see the day when everyone looks back on these remarks and says "Wow. I can't believe anyone believed any of that shit, ever." Don't know if I will, though.
Generally speaking, this issue tends to favor the younger generation. Given enough time, it's likely it will be come less of an issue, that is if "we" don't become less vocal in support of pro-choice. Though it's important to combat political opposition, it's equally important to gain the social higher ground by effectively communicating a message that is identifiable with younger generations.
This is where the pro-life movement tends to excel, by formulating a "high moral ground" argument reinforced through theological indoctrination. However, this obstacle can be overcome by providing young women a balance of historical context whilst remaining relative to contemporary attitudes on sex and sexuality. This, coupled with legal and moral understandings of choice-realated issues (such as safe sex-ed, discussing rape and incest, and describing the dangers of underground abortions, disparity caused by unplanned pregnancy, etc), would help provide holistic approach to combat the abstinence only/pro-life arguments pushed by the religious right.
I read an interesting article, written by a 20-something woman at Advocates For Youth. She focuses on the changing attitudes and understanding of issues like abortion and gay rights, and it's definitely worth checking out.
I just googled Todd Akin cause I forgot the state which he represents to see how his state is doing on election results and found this gem on Wikipedia lol
William Todd Akin (born July 5, 1947) is a pedantic, pontificating, pretentious prick and the U.S. Representative for Missouri's 2nd congressional district, serving since 2001.
The election has not gone well for the Republican rape gaffe candidates. Votes are still being counted, but so far, they've lost. Mark this down, guys: In 2012, there are severe costs for sounding like you're a little bit of a rape apologist. Here's where we are as of 9:45p.m.:
Stiles said:
For once, there is a cost to being an asshole:
The election has not gone well for the Republican rape gaffe candidates. Votes are still being counted, but so far, they've lost. Mark this down, guys: In 2012, there are severe costs for sounding like you're a little bit of a rape apologist. Here's where we are as of 9:45p.m.:
Oddly enough, the Indiana elections website shows Mourdock as having ~31,000 more votes than Donnelly. He quit too early, from his supporters' point of view.
semiretiredpunk said:
I was watching the results come in in Indiana, and it seemed Mourdock conceded the race pretty quickly. Those comments really bit him in the ass.
Oddly enough, the Indiana elections website shows Mourdock as having ~31,000 more votes than Donnelly. He quit too early, from his supporters' point of view.
“I’m not a gynecologist, but I can tell you something,” the judge said, according to documents released Thursday. “If someone doesn’t want to have sexual intercourse, the body shuts down. The body will not permit that to happen unless a lot of damage in inflicted, and we heard nothing about that in this case.
"That tells me that the victim in this case, although she wasn’t necessarily willing, she didn’t put up a fight.”
The judge, who has been on the Orange County Superior Court since 2000, also declared the rape “technical,” and not “a real, live criminal case.”
He says other stupid things as well, as can be seen in the article.
(Celeste) Greig, the head of the largest GOP volunteer organization in California — Ronald Reagan once called the California Republican Assembly “the conscience of the Republican Party — told the Bay Area News group that rape almost never leads to pregnancies because the body is too traumatized.
“Granted, the percentage of pregnancies due to rape is small because it’s an act of violence, because the body is traumatized. I don’t know what percentage of pregnancies are due to the violence of rape. Because of the trauma the body goes through,” she told the newspaper before arriving at the state GOP’s spring convention in Sacramento.
Yes, she really said that. Yes, she is that stupid. But wait, there's more!
Ironically, she got on the subject while criticizing Rep. Todd Akin, the former Missouri Senate candidate who infamously said women’s bodies have a way of shutting down pregnancies in the case of “legitimate rape.” “That was an insensitive remark,” Greig said. “I’m sure he regretted it. He should have come back and apologized.” Greig, however, went on to essentially reaffirm part of Akin’s logic.
(Celeste) Greig, the head of the largest GOP volunteer organization in California — Ronald Reagan once called the California Republican Assembly “the conscience of the Republican Party — told the Bay Area News group that rape almost never leads to pregnancies because the body is too traumatized.
“Granted, the percentage of pregnancies due to rape is small because it’s an act of violence, because the body is traumatized. I don’t know what percentage of pregnancies are due to the violence of rape. Because of the trauma the body goes through,” she told the newspaper before arriving at the state GOP’s spring convention in Sacramento.
Yes, she really said that. Yes, she is that stupid. But wait, there's more!
Ironically, she got on the subject while criticizing Rep. Todd Akin, the former Missouri Senate candidate who infamously said women’s bodies have a way of shutting down pregnancies in the case of “legitimate rape.” “That was an insensitive remark,” Greig said. “I’m sure he regretted it. He should have come back and apologized.” Greig, however, went on to essentially reaffirm part of Akin’s logic.
Of course, even if she were correct in her statement that "rape almost never leads to pregnancies" it would have no bearing whatsoever on the question of whether the law should permit abortion to be performed in cases of rape.
FellOnEarth
Temecula, CA
April 2006
OCT 31, 2012 06:41 PM