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plonk

plonk

Campbell, CA
February 2003

MAR 22, 2004 06:48 PM

Kayla said:
Is this what people must resort to, to get an education?

I'm just saddened.

College educations must cost thousands upon thousands of dollars. The normal 18-24 year old does not make that much.

Bah.

Any thoughts?



Since you live in CA, you can get a quite decent college education in the state university system for less than $10k in tuition, if you take the first two years at community colleges, with enough time left over to support yourself if you are frugal. That is less than the yearly pay differential between someone with a college degree and someone without. That is without grants and other non-loan financial aid, which you may qualify for. It should be possible to pay off your loans in a few years if you are committed to it.

plonk

plonk

Campbell, CA
February 2003

MAR 22, 2004 06:53 PM

Kayla said:
Oh, I know that.
I'm barely out of high school and I'm already doing pretty well for myself (given that I'm only barely out of high school etc.)

But to do my dream job(s) I would have to go to college.



Then buckle down and make it happen. You're way ahead of the curve, due to the fact that you live in CA. Our state university system is pretty good, and has three major campuses within commuting distance of where you live (San Jose, San Francisco, and Hayward). If you contact me privately, I can fill you in on what I know about San Jose, since I'm currently getting an engineering degree out of them.

plonk

plonk

Campbell, CA
February 2003

MAR 22, 2004 06:57 PM

LeeLoo said:
not all schools are expensive. mine is like 7200 a year which is not too bad. luckily though my parents pay for my school.



my tuition is about $3k/yr, including summer session... and about $2k/yr in books (damn engineering courses!)

Venice

Venice

SUICIDEGIRL

Washington, USA

MAR 22, 2004 07:15 PM

If it's worth it to you to go to college, then you pay what you have to pay. If you aren't willing to pay it, or take out the loans and pay it later, then it obviously isn't actually worth it to you. You have to make sacrifices for some things. I got a huge grant from the school, because I happen to be going somewhere with great financial aid, but I still take out the maximum amount of loans every year, and my parents still have to take out loans every year, and we do it because it's worth it to us. If you don't want to pay so much, you could always go to a state school, or even community college on the side. Cummunity college is very affordable, and the education you'd get isn't actually much worse than at some expensive private school.

Tura_Satana

Tura_Satana

Virginia Beach, VA
March 2004

MAR 22, 2004 07:21 PM

Kayla said:
Like I said in my first post, then you're paying it off for 45 years.

I'm not saying it should be free.
But the amount of money that it costs is usually astronomical.



It depends on how much you owe and how much you pay each month. If you arre making mass amounts of money and they are only askingh for 100 bucks a month. Then you can give them more each time and be done with it.

Like its always an automatic 45 years or something.. whatever

VM

VM

Los Angeles, CA
October 2003

MAR 22, 2004 07:28 PM

poisondaisy said:
that girls at my uni

i feel sorry for her, but it was a stupid thing to do in the first place. other people manage with a part time job or by having some time our to get the money together first



WHY do people feel sorry for her?

It was a one time thing. People make mistakes and sleep with the wrong people all the time.. for free. And sometimes even get diseases, pregnant, etc. She had none of that. It came down to the fact she doesn't have to worry about debt because of a one time thing! Seriously. She's probably gonna get a book deal or something out of it.. she may not be whoring her body anymore, but she's still whoring the media.

SHE WAS A CONSENTING ADULT THAT PLANNED THIS FOR LIKE MONTHS!!!

She deserves -0- sorrow. tongue

GhettoBlaster

GhettoBlaster

Cleveland, OH
September 2003

MAR 22, 2004 08:11 PM

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GhettoBlaster

GhettoBlaster

Cleveland, OH
September 2003

MAR 22, 2004 08:12 PM

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peart

peart

West Lafayette, IN
May 2003

MAR 22, 2004 09:13 PM

yeah and we'll find out months later that this was a hoax.

mQx

mqx

Seattle, WA
January 2003

MAR 22, 2004 09:23 PM

I don't feel sorry for her at all. She was a dumb ass and it's offensive to college students, virgins, and anyone in the sex industry. The only sad part is no one around her figuratively (or literally, I suppose) smacked her up side the head to try and knock some sense in her. And that she doesn't have the courage to stand by her decision. What a pussy.

PS, I'm part of the crowd that never went to college and work in a job I love. It took a lot of shitty jobs, and, actually I'm soon to be laid off (the infamous downsizing) and may go back to school... but it's possible to do it without having to go to college.

sinisterbhvr

sinisterbhvr

Buffalo, NY
November 2003

MAR 22, 2004 09:37 PM

I have a freind who whored her way through college. She got busted by her boyfreind. it was funny, a little drastic I would say. Nothing is wrong with a ew low interest loans and a grant or two.

Mullen

Mullen

San Diego, CA
April 2003

MAR 22, 2004 09:56 PM

But she told the newspaper: "It was horrible... I felt nervous and scared."

Yep, sounds like when I got my Cherry popped.

You know what, life sucks, and it sucks more when you are uneducated. Yes, College should be afordable, but not cheap or free.

Olivia

Olivia

STAFF

Oakland, CA

MAR 22, 2004 10:10 PM

didn't sound to me like she was asking anyone to care. some paper interviewed her, probably paid her for the story, and she answered their questions. the distain from this thread is very confusing. what's so wrong with whoring? she wanted money, he wanted to give her money for sex, and that's the end of it.

and the person who called her names based on her appearance can go jump in the river. screw you.

[Edited on Mar 22, 2004 by Olivia]

ThePenisMightier

ThePenisMightier

Intercourse, PA
March 2004

MAR 22, 2004 10:15 PM

Al said:
My exboyfriend barely even went to community college (never even got a certificate or anything) and he makes six figures a year doing something he loves. All is not lost if you don't go to college.



What does he do? I know I get stuck in shit jobs because I am self taught. I hate dealing with some asshole with a Comp Sci BS degree who has no idea what he is doing, knowing damn well I am making less than half what he makes only because he has a college degree and I have to go behind and clean up his mess. Sorry, I am slightly bitter these days.

disclaimer: I am not saying that all people with degree's are not qualified, just seems I always deal with the ones that passed the test but have no real idea what they are doing.

Lord_Shade

Lord_Shade

Canada
December 2003

MAR 23, 2004 12:18 AM

In Canada, we get student loans to pay for college. However, it saddles us with a decade's worth of debt, which sometimes a student cannot pay. Why is it either you have to be rich, or be willing to have this huge freakin' leash on your neck just to get a decent education? Yeesh, what a bunch of crap!

_Sarah_

_Sarah_

Kalamazoo, MI
January 2003

MAR 23, 2004 12:32 AM

Kayla - it will not take 45 years to pay it off. You are required to pay it off in ten, but they often make allowances if your income isn't enough to cover the payments.

For example, my student loan payments will be about $400/month for ten years because I borrowed more than my tuition amount (to help with rent and such); however, because my degree will enable me to get a job that will pay enough for me to make those payments, it's not a HUGE deal. Plus, once it's paid off, that's it. Over. And I have a good career.

Yes, college is expensive, and I hate how much I'm paying right now, but there is no way I could have a career in my chosen fields without that degree. So, I suck it up and pay for it because the benefits are HUGE when compared to what I'd be doing if I didn't go to college.

You are lucky to be in California, where the in-state tuition is reasonable. You won't qualify as "in-state" until you've been there for a year.

What I've learned in my old age is this: Go to a community college for your first two years. You'll be paying about $55/credit hour instead of $200, which means you can get all those silly General Education requirements out of the way for a LOT less money. Once you have your two-year degree, transfer into a four year school and complete your major and minor. I wish I'd done that, but oh well. Live and learn. wink

s5

s5

STAFF

San Francisco, CA

MAR 23, 2004 12:37 AM

plonk said:

LeeLoo said:
not all schools are expensive. mine is like 7200 a year which is not too bad. luckily though my parents pay for my school.



my tuition is about $3k/yr, including summer session... and about $2k/yr in books (damn engineering courses!)



i paid about $6-7k/year, and walked out with an engineering degree and a fantastic education. going to university doesn't have to put you in debt for life.

sinisterbhvr

sinisterbhvr

Buffalo, NY
November 2003

MAR 23, 2004 04:51 AM

kypduran said:

Al said:
My exboyfriend barely even went to community college (never even got a certificate or anything) and he makes six figures a year doing something he loves. All is not lost if you don't go to college.



What does he do? I know I get stuck in shit jobs because I am self taught. I hate dealing with some asshole with a Comp Sci BS degree who has no idea what he is doing, knowing damn well I am making less than half what he makes only because he has a college degree and I have to go behind and clean up his mess. Sorry, I am slightly bitter these days.

disclaimer: I am not saying that all people with degree's are not qualified, just seems I always deal with the ones that passed the test but have no real idea what they are doing.



Did you ever stop to think maybe you arent getting the job due to your mohawk and beard? I do however agree that it is tougher when you have real world experience and another has a degree.

tobie

tobie

United Kingdom
February 2004

MAR 23, 2004 10:40 AM

Kayla said:

This is what upsets me so much about college. I want to go. I'd love it, I think. But it isn't affordable. I, for one, am not willing to sleep with a stranger to go to college. Nor will I take out a student loan that I'll be stuck paying for 45 years.

well, it seems to me that its not what the girl did that is upsetting you about college, its the fact that you wont let yourself take the chance to go.
yes, its expensive, yes you need a loan to do it, and yes you have to pay it back, but lots of people on here have given ways to make it less expensive, and when it comes down to it, do you want to be stuck in a job in 20 years time that you hate wishing that you HAD taken the loan, and knowing that you could be in the job of your dreams?
we only regret the things we HAVEN'T done, dont make this one of the things that you regret.

Mullen

Mullen

San Diego, CA
April 2003

MAR 23, 2004 05:46 PM

Sorcha said:
What I've learned in my old age is this: Go to a community college for your first two years. You'll be paying about $55/credit hour instead of $200, which means you can get all those silly General Education requirements out of the way for a LOT less money. Once you have your two-year degree, transfer into a four year school and complete your major and minor. I wish I'd done that, but oh well. Live and learn. wink



That's what I did. I remembered when people cried when credits went to $13 with a cap of 12 units x $13. I just about flipped out on people who would spend that much partying in a month.
I worked part time, went to school, and lived with my parents (Now that sucks!). When I got to about 80 units, I went to a University. It cost me and my family $1000 a semester. I got a job and worked my ass off. Nothing is free in life, that is the first lesson in college.

ThePenisMightier

ThePenisMightier

Intercourse, PA
March 2004

MAR 23, 2004 07:55 PM

sinisterbhvr said:

kypduran said:
What does he do? I know I get stuck in shit jobs because I am self taught. I hate dealing with some asshole with a Comp Sci BS degree who has no idea what he is doing, knowing damn well I am making less than half what he makes only because he has a college degree and I have to go behind and clean up his mess. Sorry, I am slightly bitter these days.

disclaimer: I am not saying that all people with degree's are not qualified, just seems I always deal with the ones that passed the test but have no real idea what they are doing.



Did you ever stop to think maybe you arent getting the job due to your mohawk and beard? I do however agree that it is tougher when you have real world experience and another has a degree.



HA HA, I guess i should have mentioned that the mohawk got gone when I got my current job, although I didn't have to shave it I did because in my field appearance means alot. As for the beard, when I go job hunting or am meeting new or perspective clients I shave it off. I hate that I get judged on my appearanceand not my abilitytodothe job but first impressions have to be met before they even see your work.

TheLibra

TheLibra

Bridgeport, CT
October 2003

MAR 23, 2004 07:55 PM

yeah, Kayla, my best friend goes to Pasadena City College and pays something crazy low like $20 a credit. If you can claim California residency you'd get the same thing and be able to go part time at least.

Pandemonium

Pandemonium

Montvale, NJ
February 2004

MAR 23, 2004 11:11 PM

Funny how bringing up a topic like this involving sex just shows everybody how exactly how liberal or conservative they really are. I think that like any kind of sexual practice, what she did was her business and her's alone. It might seem like a bit odd or extreme of a choice to make, but that's still just your opinion.

If you really want to comment on moral degridation and how disgusting it was, why don't you instead focus on how pathetic it was that there were people willing to pay that much to sleep with her? That seems just the slightest bit more troublesome to me than the fact that she decided to sell herself.

And even beyond that, its still a more honest deal than others I've seen employed to get into college. I know a girl who didn't deserve this one school in PA but because she was able to claim Native American status (she's like 1/16th Cherokee or something) she was able to get in. That's a little bit more underhanded if you ask me.

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