Uh-Oh. Hamas leader destroyed by State of Isreal

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i never mentionned the depeche was aimed at the palestinians, i only said it pictures for the reader a situation in which israelis are the bad guys....cos the only information given lead you to believe that.
It's very interesting to read the CNN depeche about it, cos the picture there is totally different.

de toute façon, the point is the israelis killed in spectacular fashion a main obstacle to peace and it seems they took there an historic step...
i just hope civilians won't pay thehard price (but i have doubts about that...)


jjs the III

WTF. If anyone believes that this fuckwad's life deserved to be spared is smoking way to much crack. Fuck him in his dirty camel smelling ass. This guy was the leader of a hate organization, an organization that took credit for awful shit. Anyone who defends people like this' right to live is to me a shit bag.

Edited to say; I am not a Isreali loyalist either. I do agree that the palestinian people (with no help from leaders of either side) are not getting a fair shake.

Thats why agian I agree with S5 and Phoebus

[Edited on Mar 22, 2004 by sinisterbhvr]

[Edited on Mar 22, 2004 by sinisterbhvr]

Kind of like the old Frankie Goes To Hollywood video for "Two Tribes". I'd settle for the two most powerful warriors duking it out to settle disaggrements like they did in days of yore.

Concept of Proprtionality ? Hmmmm. a few 2.5 inch rockets against a couple of cars, seems proportionate to me, add in a few hundred rounds of mini gun for good measure and call it a day.

It wasn't 2.5in rockets. My money it was Hellfire Missles.

Even better.

The reason why they use missles is "Stand Off" distance, it keeps the aviators safe, it surprises the target, and it gives the aviators time to get clearance, positive ID, and authorization. Plus I can guarantee there were no innocents or civilians anywhere near the shiek for his own security reasons.

Except that there were...

Two bodyguards and one of Sheikh Yassin's sons were reported to be among the seven people killed. At least 15 people were wounded.

Why not just use a sniper from a roof? I'm sure the IDF has some amazing marksmen that would be a lot less controversial than shooting missles at a guy in a wheel chair and hi entourage. Don't get me wrong--i'm glad he's dead--but it's bad PR.

That's precisely why the old man shouldn't have been made into a martyr. It's moronically counterproductive as now there'll be yet another escalation of violence. So the cycle continues...

His son, nor his bodyguards are what I would consider innocent civilians.

How would YOU know?????

Is the brothers and sisters of Osama Bin Laden guilty as well???
SHould we persecute the father and mother of the Washington Snipers?
And if they have siblings, should we put them in the electric chair too???

that is truly one of the most ignorant and stupid things I've read on this site this far...

Use your brain please....

(Or maybe we can find some murderer somewhere in your family tree, and send you to jail!)



[Edited on Mar 22, 2004 by toomaas]

Dude, take a deep breath and count to 10. His bodyguards were Hamas gunmen and his son is Hamas deputy and was his unofficial spokesman. Personally, I think assasination is rather immoral not to mention bad foreign policy, but this is hardly corruption of the blood argument. They were not innocents.

Ok, so him, his son and two bodyguards makes four of seven people outright killed in addition to 15 more wounded. So can you assure me of the 22 people either dead or wounded in that strike, all were somehow guilty or evil? Maybe all 22 were real assholes planning on killing Israelis, but you "assurance" that no innocents or civilians were killed or wounded in this strike is a bit off to say the least.

[Edited on Mar 22, 2004 by Max16Characters]

the reason why innocents are often killed during military engagements?

because a Palestinian tactic is to use human shields to generate collateral damage, sympathy, martyrdom and news coverage



[Edited on Mar 22, 2004 by UpTight]

I will personally take credit for reprobate starting one of his pithy repsonses with the word "Dude."

you know this is gonna get sticky.

And this has what at all to do with this, and an increasing number of instances where the collateral damage is the result of none of these things but of Israel indiscriminantly using major ordinance in crowded urban areas?

I've gone native, bra'. I have dress flip flops, too.

Ugh! Israel is not the ones blowing up city buses, tour buses, and crowded night clubs in order to kill the average citizen or visitor. Israel is attacking influential leaders of anti-Israel terrorist groups. Its a shame that others were killed in the process. But to say that Israel indiscriminantly bombs urban areas is rediculous!

--edited to say that I agree with UpTight

[Edited on Mar 23, 2004 by mislaid]

These people wandering around look pretty thick headed if you ask me. The look like they enjoy being there.

edited to say; just becuase they aren't wearing military fatigues doesn't mean they are innocent civilians. (yes I know there is a couple of kids in the picture)


[Edited on Mar 23, 2004 by sinisterbhvr]

good point