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Waldo_Jeffers

Waldo_Jeffers

United Kingdom
OLD SKOOL

JUL 14, 2011 02:36 PM

Stiles said:
In a rare moment of sanity, charges have been dropped.



Hey wait! Does that mean that they let those hippies win?

wink

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

JUL 14, 2011 03:12 PM

Admiral_Pants said:
Since when does "suitable" mean "common" anyway?



i am glad i wasn't alone. I immediately went to Webster's online and it doesn't refer to "common" in any way.

I also immediately thought of this:



Fixer

Fixer

Los Angeles, CA
October 2002

JUL 17, 2011 09:46 PM

AnnaLee said:
They are seriously trying to ban a person from using their garden in a sustainable manner - growing food for themselves? I'm completely shocked, I can't think when I last heard anything so absurd. It's also quite fascistic, they only want perfectly mowed lawns and white fences in their neighborhood and everyone should adhere? I really hope that people protest that and that more people turn their precious concrete paving slabs, beds of stones or their lawns and fences into beautiful food.



you must not own a house. This is all too common everywhere. Maybe not about gardens in the front lawn, but plenty of building codes regarding what can be built in the setback, heights of things like fences, and what can be grown or not.

darksphere

darksphere

Vancouver, BC
January 2005

JUL 18, 2011 12:20 AM

Fixer said:

AnnaLee said:
They are seriously trying to ban a person from using their garden in a sustainable manner - growing food for themselves? I'm completely shocked, I can't think when I last heard anything so absurd. It's also quite fascistic, they only want perfectly mowed lawns and white fences in their neighborhood and everyone should adhere? I really hope that people protest that and that more people turn their precious concrete paving slabs, beds of stones or their lawns and fences into beautiful food.



you must not own a house. This is all too common everywhere. Maybe not about gardens in the front lawn, but plenty of building codes regarding what can be built in the setback, heights of things like fences, and what can be grown or not.



Not in any of the cities I've lived in..?

Mantis

Mantis

SUICIDEGIRL

Texas, USA

JUL 18, 2011 01:43 AM

darksphere said:

Fixer said:

AnnaLee said:
They are seriously trying to ban a person from using their garden in a sustainable manner - growing food for themselves? I'm completely shocked, I can't think when I last heard anything so absurd. It's also quite fascistic, they only want perfectly mowed lawns and white fences in their neighborhood and everyone should adhere? I really hope that people protest that and that more people turn their precious concrete paving slabs, beds of stones or their lawns and fences into beautiful food.



you must not own a house. This is all too common everywhere. Maybe not about gardens in the front lawn, but plenty of building codes regarding what can be built in the setback, heights of things like fences, and what can be grown or not.



Not in any of the cities I've lived in..?


Are you from Canada originally? Most neighborhoods in America have restrictions. Many also require home owners to pay dues annually and have optional meetings. You want to attend, though, otherwise Betty two doors down will suggest the banning of green doors because your door is green and she doesn't like your dog and blah blah blah. It's fucking bizarre. Doesn't seem right at all, but they want certain neighborhoods to have certain looks. Their reasoning is that if you don't want to sign these documents and pay these dues you shouldn't live in that neighborhood.

Stiles

Stiles

Oakland, CA
November 2002

JUL 18, 2011 01:58 AM

To be clear, from neighborhood to neighborhood and town to town zoning/code/HOA/historic district requirements in the US run the entire spectrum -from none whatsoever to very strict and limited. Thus, broad generalizations really aren't accurate.

Mantis

Mantis

SUICIDEGIRL

Texas, USA

JUL 18, 2011 12:04 PM

True, and it's a mess when they try to change them (ex. changing a neighborhood to a historic district)

Sal_

Sal_

USA
October 2009

JUL 18, 2011 12:16 PM

Stiles said:
To be clear, from neighborhood to neighborhood and town to town zoning/code/HOA/historic district requirements in the US run the entire spectrum -from none whatsoever to very strict and limited. Thus, broad generalizations really aren't accurate.



Thats what really sucked out in the southwest, everywhere had HOAs and the two places I lived at their HOAs were run by power tripping bastards who would do stupid shit like "harass" anyone they didnt like with constant inspeciton and nitpick their property for the tiniest of infractions.

The first place I lived at the HOA tried to ding us for having 3 cars(there were 3 of us living there) because 1 was always in the drive way while the other 2 were in the garage, then tried to ding the owner of the house when he wanted to put up solar panels.

Im definetely glad to be away from anyplace with an HOA, thats for sure.

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

JUL 18, 2011 12:30 PM

Sallen said:
The first place I lived at the HOA tried to ding us for having 3 cars(there were 3 of us living there) because 1 was always in the drive way while the other 2 were in the garage, then tried to ding the owner of the house when he wanted to put up solar panels.



That's not just HOA's. The city i live in has pretty stupid regulations on what you can and can't do with your property.

For example:
-I can't keep a boat or a camper in my driveway, even if the back of the driveway is hidden by a house

-I can't keep 9 cars (all running) on my property. I had four cars i was in the process of turning over (buying and reselling), my parents two cars and three cars of my own (don't ask). The city handed us a violation stating that all the cars had to be running. We argued that they were, then they told us they all had to be plated, so i plated all of them. They then basically said "Get rid of all the fucking cars we don't like them" and i sold off five of the cars.

-You can't plant a tree on your lawn, even if you inspect before digging. You have to get a permit from the city and the city will tell you where on your property you can plant it.

-I can't plant certain types of grass, the city supplies a list of grasses that are acceptable according to them.

-Lets not get into keeping the garage painted......assholes.

The list goes on, and i have tested them all.

Sal_

Sal_

USA
October 2009

JUL 18, 2011 12:44 PM

DevilsReject said:

Sallen said:
The first place I lived at the HOA tried to ding us for having 3 cars(there were 3 of us living there) because 1 was always in the drive way while the other 2 were in the garage, then tried to ding the owner of the house when he wanted to put up solar panels.



That's not just HOA's. The city i live in has pretty stupid regulations on what you can and can't do with your property.

For example:
-I can't keep a boat or a camper in my driveway, even if the back of the driveway is hidden by a house

-I can't keep 9 cars (all running) on my property. I had four cars i was in the process of turning over (buying and reselling), my parents two cars and three cars of my own (don't ask). The city handed us a violation stating that all the cars had to be running. We argued that they were, then they told us they all had to be plated, so i plated all of them. They then basically said "Get rid of all the fucking cars we don't like them" and i sold off five of the cars.

-You can't plant a tree on your lawn, even if you inspect before digging. You have to get a permit from the city and the city will tell you where on your property you can plant it.

-I can't plant certain types of grass, the city supplies a list of grasses that are acceptable according to them.

-Lets not get into keeping the garage painted......assholes.

The list goes on, and i have tested them all.



Yeah, we are getting hassled by the city right now for a fence that is(according to them) 2 feet over the regulation length fences are allowed to be.

Aaron

Aaron

Shakopee, MN
July 2004

JUL 18, 2011 12:45 PM

The conversation is fine, but we really need to make a distinction between Homeowners Associations and actual municipal regulations (laws).

mydogfarted

mydogfarted

Oakland, NJ
June 2003

JUL 18, 2011 01:23 PM

DevilsReject said:
The list goes on, and i have tested them all.



My town is currently in the process of pet licensing enforcement, going door to door. They showed up at my house, saw the dog, and my wife said "We're dog sitting".

Living in a flood prone area, we're not allowed to have certain types of fencing.

I wanted to take the hot tub from my old house to the current one when I moved. I was told it had to be basically in the middle of my yard, right were a hundred year old tree is. You need a permit to remove any tree thicker than 3".

The latest thing now is those temporary pools they sell - the one's with the PVC pipe frames. According to the local towns, you need building an plumbing permits for them because they have a filter. That means 4' fences, proper offsets from house/property lines...

I understand some regulations. But things like hot tubs needing to be 35' off the front and rear property lines? *facepalm*

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